Instigator / Pro

1709

rating

565

debates

68.23%

won

Topic

#3749

I pick the topic, you debate what is asked.

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After not so many votes...

It's a tie!

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Parameters

Publication date: 09.17.2022 12:58PM
Last updated date: 11.03.2022 09:42PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 20,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

Mall

1476

rating

336

debates

40.77%

won

Description

I pick the topic, I even pick the sides.

Mall/Con obeys and tries to argue the side of the topic that is assigned.

Round 1

RationalMadman

09.17.2022 07:16PM

Pro

Topic: Novice_II accepted all of Mall's debates with Mall's clear consent.

My side: Con

Mall's Side: Pro

Mall

09.18.2022 10:07AM

Con

Apparently the debates had participation by myself and this...........other individual.

How did I not allow this?

Your side is positioned with me not permitting it.

Round 2

RationalMadman

09.21.2022 09:51AM

Pro

Do you deny the following:

Novice has begun to accept multiple debates of yours even before the 'pick your topic' to the point where you made debates and comments expressing exasperation at the antics.
Despite this, Novice continued and has essentially harassed you by accepting many debates and then picking the same topic in all of them, leading you to make a new rule in them that the opponent can't pick duplicate topics.

Mall

09.21.2022 07:45PM

Con

I deny the first point that it's exasperation. More like observation of a behavior.

The second point I will not deny in terms of "harassing". I used the term "obsessed" but this term is synonymous with the word hound which is synonymous with harass which means to pursue relentlessly.

But how does this tie into no permission or consent to debating the individual?

I can agree to interact but it doesn't negate the incessant behavior clearly and constantly revealing a preoccupation of the attention incessantly.

Round 3

RationalMadman

09.24.2022 06:16PM

Pro

Was it clear consent?

Mall

09.26.2022 03:28PM

Con

Yes I allowed the debate or else I wouldn't of had the conversation.

Round 4

RationalMadman

09.29.2022 03:03PM

Pro

That's not the case, you allowed a debate to occur where no consent was given for the participant in name nor the topics he/she picked.

I will show you expressing distress prior to the creation of them:

This Novice II individual is obsessed with the topic "Biological reincarnation is real".

This was inline with comments at the time such as:

This includes all the debate sessions with the same topic with the same individual. The person knows my points.

The person simply will not answer the question. It appears there are other individuals that will debate reincarnation.

I'm asking for a refutation attempt at biological reincarnation. The person is aware of what that is because I explained it .

I'm not going to repeat myself to the same person.

https://www.debateart.com/debates/3702-biological-reincarnation-is-real

This was before the individual accepted 2 following debates after that.

Then on the third iteration:

Hello is this a spammer?

https://www.debateart.com/debates/3705-biological-reincarnation-is-real

I guess reincarnation is real, for your debates.

What then happened is as follows:

You made debate after debate and Novice_II accepted many without asking you:

https://www.debateart.com/debates/3788-you-select-the-topic

https://www.debateart.com/debates/3735-you-pick-the-topic-i-ll-do-my-best-with-it

https://www.debateart.com/debates/3732-you-pick-the-topic-i-shall-do-my-best-with-it

You got mad at Novice for doing this and picking easy repetitive topics so you added this to the description of the future ones that Novice accepted anyway and frustrated you in: