Instigator / Pro
6
1509
rating
4
debates
37.5%
won
Topic
#3888

Kids 12+ who can prove they know about politics should be able to vote

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
6
Better sources
2
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
1

After 2 votes and with 7 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
3,500
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
13
1702
rating
568
debates
68.13%
won
Description

pretty simple if you ask me, just read the title

Round 1
Pro
#1
Having an immigrant mother, she never really understood American politics. Usually I'd explain the options, and ask her which one. She always went with my opinion. So, yes, I basically voted when I was a teenager (with my mothers supervision, or my mother voting with my supervision, you could say).

I believe that I was (and am) very knowledgeable when it comes to American politics, more than most adults around me, at least. I've listed a solution to my opinion: A test of some sort. kind of like the Civics Test, but with much more critical thinking and common sense.

There are many counter-arguments I anticipate, my response in bold text:
  1. Yes, the judgement of minors is very poor. Thats what the test is for.
  2. This would increase liberal voting numbers. Good.
  3. the amount of children that would be voting would be so minuscule that there would be no need for legislation making this a reality. honestly, I dont know what to say about this.
I also think that "simulations" in schools for middle-high schoolers about voting would be a great addition for learning. 


I know its short, but I think It is a good start. I anticipate Con's response.


Con
#2

Let me get this straight, this product of immigration flexes how their mother never studied for the votes she cast in a nation,
That's a snitch handin' out an ICE 'n' U-S-C-I-S invitation,
Fraudulent vote-by-proxy, like mother like child; deceptive imitation,
Let's explore the real meat to Pro's case, it deserves evisceration,
I'm dismember it with hot rebuttals; cause incineration...


Pro thinks they were very knowledgable as a teen and this enables them the right to vote,
That's like a Christian denyin' science with a Bible quote,
See, Pro as a teen could consider suicide and we'd hold the school and parents responsible even if the teens buy the rope,
The ability to judge the media well is all good until your parents pressure you to think as they think and hope as they hope.


However, I concede that the problem's two-fold since a rebellious hot-head teen's gonna see their parents' beliefs and jump like hell the other way, yo!
The point is, I don't blame the young for lack information, I blame parents for their raising methods lacking sound persuasion,
It's not about IQ, it's about hormone fluctuation,
We're talking about the very most unstable people in every single nation,
Plus, which nation is it that we are seeking to alter legislation?
There are barely any where custody and consent of those under 16 is considered valid independent of an adult's 'okaying',
The barrier until 18's more about maturity than possessing data for political calculations,
You can know the harms of drugs and unprotected underage sex,
And go 'screw it L-M-A-O, I'm too impatient for waitin',
There's obviously one or two anomalies but the barrier isn't a test or having stored information,
Pro's mother blindly followed Pro's idea of what to vote on but if 12+ kids and teens can vote the opposite'll be commonplace then,
And don't forget those who would irrationally rebel and refuse good advice from parents and vote the other way solely out of hormones raging.
Round 2
Pro
#3
forfeit 😳
Con
#4
I accept