Instigator / Pro
12
1495
rating
9
debates
44.44%
won
Topic
#917

New York thin crust pizza is superior to Chicago deep dish. Change my mind

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
9
Better sources
4
6
Better legibility
2
3
Better conduct
0
3

After 3 votes and with 9 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
21
1687
rating
555
debates
68.11%
won
Description

You read that correctly

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@Barney

You don't get why he gave up do you?

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@Barney

Hahahahaha, oh god you didn't see what I did. Read the sentence after what you wrote and then comprehend what I did. I turned his entire case into one of why the Chicago one is superior.

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@RationalMadman

Full agreement with pro's R1 followed by no case for the Chicago being at least equal by any standard (to my knowledge, Scott Adkins is not a pizza... even if he would be the most complete pizza). You guessed accurately that pro would forfeit, so you got a free win. Enjoy it.

"For this Round, Con agrees with most of what Pro has suggested so far. The NY flimsy-crust is a good lunch-to-dinner ranked meal that's low quantity+quality of cheese and dough and low time-consuming to make, relative to the Chicago luscious alternative."

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@Barney

Go ahead, show me the concession.

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@RationalMadman

R1.

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@Barney

I never conceded this debate not even once. Lol.

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@David
@Barney

Alright, I understand. Sorry for the confusion

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@King_8

On this one due to one side forfeiting more than half the rounds (or is it half or more? Not sure the current moderation standard to call something an FF), they cannot be awarded the majority of the points.

Why anyone bothered to report your vote on this one, seems to be an act of pettiness.

As for Ram's vote, it's non-removal was explained in detail in comment #8.

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@David

You know what I'm not even mad anymore, I just won't vote anymore because each vote I put, no matter how decent I think it is, it gets deleted. I guess y'all value votes that are long essays (which I get and I understand since it must be in depth) but not all debates require this. In this debate, a simple, straight to the point vote would suffice -- unless you want people to elaborate on forfeits. While Pro did forfeit the rest of the debate, he is the only one who put an effort in his argument in R1. Con did not.

"unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side"
Well I voted for both sides. I voted for Pro (the side who forfeited) for convincing arguments, and I have a point to Con for conduct since he did not forfeit.

Ramshutu's vote somehow wasn't deleted when it 1. Wasn't even valid. 2. Must be bias since he is a mod as well. 3. When there is an opponent (Pro) who is the only one who makes an argument and forfeits the rest of the debates, whereas the other opponent (Con) makes little to no effort of an argument, while the rest of the responses each round are trollish things, I don't find it fair to vote "Con" and simply say Full forfeit.

I would like an explanation moving forward, thanks. It's just getting really annoying getting my votes deleted when they are honest votes. I knew this vote would get deleted.

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@King_8

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Vote Reported: King_8 // Mod Action: Removed

Points awarded: 3 to pro for arguments 1 to con for conduct

RFD: Arguments | Pro is the only one who made an argument, which was a solid one.
Sources | Tied as neither opponent used any sources.
S&P | Both has equal spelling and grammar.
Conduct | Conduct goes to Con since Pro forfeited the rest of the debate.

Reason for mod action: Full forfeit debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side, per the site voting policy guidelines. This vote is thus removed

The voter should review the COC here: https://www.debateart.com/rules
The voter should also review this: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/346?page=1&post_number=4

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@Ramshutu

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Vote Reported: Ramshutu // Mod Action: Not Removed

Reason for mod action: Full forfeit debates are not moderated unless the voter voted for the forfeiting side, per the site voting policy guidelines. No moderation action is appropriate on this vote.


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@Club

It's a comical debate, it was supposed to be over the top

Dustandashes
You should stop using scenarios like that, and just state the reason.... because it's getting a bit ridiculous.

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@Alec

Deep dish style pizza is essentially a well filled with cheese and sauce, that is contained in a buttery crust. New York style pizza is the pizza most people are used to

I’ve got my lawn chair

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@Alec

Of course! Lol

Of course RM accepts it.

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@Dustandashes

I don't know the difference.