The Heroes of Olympus Mafia DP2

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@whiteflame
I don't think I have ever seen a game where the mod gave cop as a fake claim to scum team. It seems a bit overpowered.
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But I guess it would have to exist, otherwise; in every game a townie would just claim cop to confirm as town.
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@Greyparrot
I don't think I have ever seen a game where the mod gave cop as a fake claim to scum team. It seems a bit overpowered.
Strange that you'd argue against the vote now after sheeping me. I've also never used that in support of my argument. My point is that not that Vader was likely given a Cop fakeclaim. My point is that he saw the Emissary, intuited that there is probably not a full Cop in the game, and made his claim with that in mind. It's ballsy play, to be sure, but it's not at all out of the realm of plausibility.


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@whiteflame
I was just saying for my own curiosity because you have an encyclopedic memory for mafia games.
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I'm honestly not sure if I'll get time to check the DP again today, depending on when my game starts and how long I have between rounds. With that being said, I'll violate my own voting meta and VTL Vader in case I don't have a chance to do so later. I've already given my reasons on why I've felt he's the most scummy.


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I’m likely gonna be lynched. Don’t care enough to defend myself and I’m essentially useless at this point. I think scum team is Austin and BK because seems to clearly ignore any form of logically reasoning I throw out there. I’ve stated constantly why BK is scummy and no one will listen so I’m gonna let town die lol

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@whiteflame
Are you sure on Vader tho? I sense Earth and Wylted are scummier.
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@Vader
Yeah, If I help kill town, i will lose so 

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If Whiteflame lawyered himself and predicted the move and got town on his side, we’ve lost. We have no other results in this game. I hope my turn will push some people to think critically about what I’ve been saying versus being dismissive 
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@Greyparrot
I’m rooting for you to win at this point because town clearly like losing
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@Vader
Go re-read earth and wylted from dp1
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@Greyparrot
Definitely do not have that, just a pretty good memory for crazy plays. Speaking of which, I do recall a game where Supa pulled a similar play, outing himself as the Doctor - had to dig back to find this. It took him until late into DP1 to claim the role, but it was a similarly ballsy claim that left him alive for multiple DPs afterwards despite suspicions. Also, weird if less meaningful coincidence between that game and this one: he also claimed to target me with his role.

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@Vader
I will lose if either I or a scum is not lynched. As the game will end on dp4
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@Greyparrot
Might have to tbh. 
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@Greyparrot
Are you sure on Vader tho? I sense Earth and Wylted are scummier.
You "sense" it? Why?
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@whiteflame
You realize that we were scum team and had a full list of roles that the town had 
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Voting is at 2 and 2; I advise no one place another vote down right now for either of them, even if stating who they intend on voting.
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@Vader
So now you're just giving up on defending yourself. I guess that's a choice.

You realize that we were scum team and had a full list of roles that the town had 
Honestly, I don't recall. I tried looking at the role list, but the link is now defunct.

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@whiteflame
Just from what I scanned over from DP1...like when Earth claimed Joe was clearly town with no justification.
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@Greyparrot
Just from what I scanned over from DP1...like when Earth claimed Joe was clearly town with no justification.
That’s one of them, but considering JoeBob flipped town, I’d say that’s a weak reason to sus him at this point. He was right.
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@whiteflame
From my POV, scum has a far better interest at least up to dp 5 to get me out of the game, as it's 
1) A free lynch with zero suspicion.
2) One less person to fabricate a case against
3) Almost certainly would not waste a night kill on.
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@whiteflame
This is why I am sure you are town, as scum you would have 100% hammered me for those 3 reasons.
Along with the fact you gave your reasons for why you would vote me as town.
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@Greyparrot
From my POV, scum has a far better interest at least up to dp 5 to get me out of the game, as it's 
1) A free lynch with zero suspicion.
2) One less person to fabricate a case against
3) Almost certainly would not waste a night kill on.
Unless we don’t believe your claim. If you’re right about your claim, then I agree with the above.
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@whiteflame
Yes he was right...but zero justification? Why don't you pressure him?
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@Greyparrot
Yes he was right...but zero justification? Why don't you pressure him?
Because I already have enough information from his softclaim to be less suspicious of him than I am of you and Vader.

Also, and this is something I’ve pointed out several times this DP, we need to stop saying that people are scummy because their behavior is off from what we’d expect from the average player. We’re comparing Earth to his previous games, not looking at his plays in a vacuum. A lack of justification for his not sussing a given player is not unusual for Earth. I might scumread it coming from Austin or Luna, but that doesn’t mean I’d treat it the same coming from Earth.
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Here I'll start: (can't believe I have to save town here)

VTL EARTH for pressure
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@whiteflame
Really? Show me the exact post from DP1 that makes you think Earth is town.
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@Greyparrot
Really? Show me the exact post from DP1 that makes you think Earth is town.
A) I just said the main basis for my read on him came from his softclaim, which was in DP2.

B) I was null on Earth through DP1. No given post made me think he was town.

C) You’re the one claiming you knew something was up from a single post he made in DP1. The onus is on you to provide some reason why it’s scummy, which so far has involved 0 comparisons to past behavior. Not sure why you’re trying to flip this around on me or why WyIted has suddenly vanished from your argument entirely.
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Official Vote Count:

Greyparrot (2/5) - Earth, Wylted
Vader (2/5) - Whiteflame, Austin
Earth (1/5) - Greyparrot


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