I have spent lot of years mainly figuring out what myself and this reality is all about.

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The prefontal cortex does not produce reason, nor is it the spot in the brain that causes reason. It produces an image in your mind. We call that a phantasm in philosophy.

Scientifically speaking it is the chemical mixture in your brain organized by whatever sensation you just had.

Philisophically it is the part of the brain which produces the image from which your soul produces a concept.

We have an axiom in Philosophy: All knowledge starts in the senses.
After the senses the brain makes an "image" or a chemical mixture, whichever you want and the soul from that produces its concepts.

Science has never been able to see concepts when scanning brains. They have been able to see the chemical mixtures, but not what comes after.
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it is a bad philosophy to choose colloquial explanations over logical explanations
These "colloquial explanations" are examples that show the realism of my philosophy, because philosophy is about real things. It is not high minded gymnastics for the sake of high minded gymnastics. It is an explanation from reason about what is real.

Maybe try seeing the logic behind it, instead of looking at them so superficially.
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That means any activity of my life, including nutrition of my body, is actuated by my soul.
do souls leave the body and go places like heaven ?

or are you intentionally confusing the conversation by using the words "life" and "soul" interchangeably ?
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The frontal lobe is involved in reasoning, motor control, emotion, and language. It contains the motor cortex, which is involved in planning and coordinating movement; the prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for higher-level cognitive functioning; and Broca's area, which is essential for language production.
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Maybe try seeing the logic behind it, instead of looking at them so superficially.
try presenting the logic
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or are you intentionally confusing the conversation by using the words "life" and "soul" interchangeably ?
I am not using them interchangably.

Life: self-Movement of some sort.
Soul: Principle of that movement. Or if you want: the thing that causes the movement.
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try presenting the logic
I have. With examples. I am sorry if you can not see it.
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Soul: Principle of that movement. Or if you want: the thing that causes the movement.
ok, great

is your soul influenced by circumstances ?

does your soul respond to emergencies for example ?

does your soul birth motives that are based on your childhood experiences and perhaps some training or education you've inculcated ?
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I have. With examples. I am sorry if you can not see it.
you've made unsupported assertions using undefined terms
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WANTED . 
I buy , sell and trade Souls . 
Will Pay cash $$$$$$$$$$$$.  
Any condition.   
PM me. 

No but. 
Its only commen sense that these " soulie soul " things don't exist. 
HOWEVER. 
HOWEVER. 

When you say you'll sell your soul , and signed it over and finalize it.
It feels ummm, like maybe you shouldn't of done that. 
More so then doing things that people say , " bring bad luck " 
Like walking under a ladders and smashing mirrors. 

When someone says they dont belive in souls. 
Ask them if they'll sell their's to you. Or simply sign theres over to you.
They will insta pause,  as one (ummm's and areee's.) 

Not meaning to boast butttttttt,   Ive easy over a dozen souls.   

I dare someone to say that you can't actually sell your soul. 
I fucking dare ya. 

Where do i keep these "souls" i buy you ask ? 
What kind of stupid question is that ?
Why In air tight tuperware container you silly. 
Where do i keep my purchased souls he asked. 
What a wanker. 


2024,  current avrage price for a adult soul your looking at,  anywhere in between,
$15.50  to   $43 bucks.
Girl souls are slightly cheaper then male souls for the obvious size reason but ummm yeah. 
' kicks dirt. ' 



That's US dollars.   


SHIP IT. 
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ok, great

is your soul influenced by circumstances ?

does your soul respond to emergencies for example ?

does your soul birth motives that are based on your childhood experiences and perhaps some training or education you've inculcated ?

Yes, but once again, a thing is different from what it does.

I am not the sum total of my influences.
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you've made unsupported assertions using undefined terms
No I have not. Try reading what I have said again.
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I am not the sum total of my influences.
ok

solve for x

you are the sum of your biology + experience + x

tell me what you think x might be

and don't say "soul"

unless you're ready to explain how your "soul" makes decisions that are not influenced by your "soul's" metabiology + experience
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WANTED . 
I buy , sell and trade Souls . 
Will Pay cash $$$$$$$$$$$$.  
Any condition.   
PM me. 
LMFAo WHAT
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solve for x

you are the sum of your biology + experience + x

tell me what you think x might be

and don't say "soul"

unless you're ready to explain how your "soul" makes decisions that are not influenced by your "soul's" metabiology + experience

Invalid question with invalid, unproven, unexplained points.

What I am is defined by my nature. Which is human nature. i.e. Body and rational soul. This nature exists in me an individual of that nature. Nothing more to it. My memory, experiances, biology (which is my body) can all be reduced in their essences to body or soul.

I have already explained what the soul is.

This is what I mean by the philosophy of Spinosa. You keep proving my point perfectly. Being is not mathematical. It is not univocal.
You keep giving senseless equations that have the presumption of Being as mathematical. Common sense and other, way more solid philosophies than Spinosa show this.

I am sorry if you cannot see that. Maybe look at other philosophies older than the 1600s.
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Invalid question with invalid, unproven, unexplained points.
JUST SAY "SOUL" IS UNEXPLAINABLE

SINCE THAT'S YOUR ANSWER ANYWAY

WHY EVEN BOTHER TALKING ABOUT IT

IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING
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JUST SAY "SOUL" IS UNEXPLAINABLE

SINCE THAT'S YOUR ANSWER ANYWAY

WHY EVEN BOTHER TALKING ABOUT IT

IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING

I did explain what the soul is.

Did you not read what I said?
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read the posts numbered 19, 23, 24, 30 and 36
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Your dear old good soul Brute would be close to the $40 buck mark.
High end. 
I mean ,,, Its been Triled and tester. 

You'll sign it over to me wont ya pal ? 

I can give you  $38.70.
Brutey. ?
Anyway, Have a think about it man. 

But back to the OP - original post 
 ☆⊙  Nice post man. ⊙☆. 
I've nothing intellectual to offer. 

Buttttt,
It makes me feel like , Id fucking love to read a Book about half the stuff you've done / got up to, and put large thought  into in your life sir. 
A wise interesting read. 
You could Put like a tip section in it , ( 20 Life tips. ) 

Im sure You've been there,  and done that. 

Ok then ,
Forty. 
Ill give you $40 for your soul Brute

Good day man. 

 



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read the posts numbered 19, 23, 24, 30 and 36



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I am not using them interchangably.
Life: self-Movement of some sort.
Soul: Principle of that movement. Or if you want: the thing that causes the movement.
soul is not a thing

soul is a principle

merely and abstract concept

like a law of nature

so to you it is merely a description of a process

and not a source of anything in and of itself

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soul is not a thing

soul is a principle

I do not think I have seen someone contradict themselves so quickly.

Then what is the thing that gives our body life?

so to you it is merely a description of a process

and not a source of anything in and of itself

Actually, I said it was the source of our movement. The thing by which we move.
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Then what is the thing that gives our body life?
organic chemistry
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Actually, I said it was the source of our movement. The thing by which we move.
so,

is soul a thing that causes physical movement

or 

is it a principle ?


because a principle is a description of something and not a thing in and of itself
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I do not think I have seen someone contradict themselves so quickly.
i'm paraphrasing YOU
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organic chemistry
That means everything that is part of our life must be organic.

Abstracts concepts, a part of our intellectual life are not organic. You cannot touch them. So there must be something more than just organic chemistry.

Unless you can give me where science has tagged in the brain where concepts themselves are, there is no way around that.
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because a principle is a description of something and not a thing in and of itself
a principle is not a desription.
Principle: That from which anything proceeds in any way whatsoever.

That "that" is a thing. Like a point is the principle of a ray, your soul is the principle of self movement.
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i'm paraphrasing YOU
Where did I say the soul is not a thing? Got a reference?
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A thing.
Is a data reference point within the simulation.
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so now souls require food ?

3RU, soul is classically associated with biology of a human --biology needs food/nurtiment--  and reglious nutters like to say the soul is seperate from the body and goes somewhere after the biologic body dies.

At best, we can say that the soul is seperate if it is an occupied space, of non-quantised Gravity and occupied space of non-quantized Dark Energy factors of the biologic human.

When the biologic dies, the Gravity and Dark Energy remain. However, if we disregard occupied space of Gravity and Dark Energy,
then, and only then, do apply soul and biologic as synonyms { biologic/soul } as Ive done for 20 years or more.

Arguing with religous nutter is like arguing with a drunkard, it goes nowhere, as both lack of use of logical, common sense critical thinking abilities, at least in these regards.

.......^ .. ^.... Bilateral Soul/Biologic human or as ....( * * )......or as...( * i * ).......where the slanted i symbolizes the most access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.

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i'm paraphrasing YOU
Where did I say the soul is not a thing? Got a reference?
you said soul is a principle