I have no idea what you think this proves or indicates beyond internal balancing.
If your point isn't that we are doing things wrong what is it?
You're assuming every townie knows and agrees to the same rules, even the unwritten ones, that you do. Not only that, but you don't care if those rules are objective implications of the game rules.
If you guys were like "this is just the town strategy we go with, please comply because mixing strategies will fail", that would be one thing. No, you act like there is one way to play, you don't even care if other people are thinking another way. You act as if different strategy === scum and any outliers from that rule were just stupid, (too bad git gud not my problem).
Kind of That2user to never oblige her reason for lying.
She wasn't caught in a lie, it would have been far more dangerous to admit to lying than to hope the suspicion of lying passed.
The thing is she isn't a "noob" and has even hosted games on this site as much as a year ago.
That makes my point stronger. Your theory is then that she just "threw" the game for ____ reason?
You didn't care before you lynched and you still don't care.
Earth has been playing for years, he even wrote the old guide on how to play mafia lol.
That makes my point stronger. Your theory is then that he just "threw" the game for ____ reason?
But it's a team game, and when my teamates are actively throwing said game, I think that's a reasonable reaction.
I favor the argument that the people ignoring math in favor of picking apart details in "assassination" vs "just dying" or who was qualified to be called the fist Tsar are the ones throwing.
The people suspecting her aren't the anomaly here.
The only lesson I learned is to trust my logic over your gut. Giving the right strategy was town behavior.
There's really not many things that need to be written down, most of it is common sense.
The exact meaning of "protective role" and how many there can be in any game is common sense?
you somehow think you know for a fact that I am scum
That is a lie.
I was not suspicious of Earth, I was right.
Having inside information sure makes you look good. Town are uninformed, thus sometimes wrong. Bragging about being right doesn't prove much about your affiliation here bud.
Oh it's not about my affiliation, it's about my analysis. It has fewer assumptions and was more reliable about the fewer claims I did make. Same with the Eragon game. I didn't fill in the blanks with bullshit.
Sometimes, often, it's just bad luck. The room for luck here is obvious, if the town investigative roles are killed early there is no way to gain reliable information, it just comes down to your poker game which is unreliable; especially when you refuse to acknowledge that people might be playing outside of the unspoken rules.
Speaking of results, you haven't done anything to achieve your win condition.
Of course I did. I gamed out That2User's idea further. I explained it to everyone.
Then I guess town "threw it" by not listening to me and her.
You haven't led a single scum lynch
There hasn't been a single scum lynch to lead?
4 ways to have stopped a night kill,
I have zero ways to stop a night kill.
If I die in the night because of a mafia hit, that's still a night kill.
And whose fault is it that you are wrong?
If you're town it won't be my fault because I didn't say I knew you were scum.
I have only claimed that the overall chances for victory were higher if your list was verified as early as possible.
And that2 was too.
Nah, she was and still is right. She didn't say you were 100% scum.
I got results, if I had not ousted them dp1 I risk being night killed NP2 and town never gets ANY results.
So make your fake claim something of low threat to the mafia.
It's not a fake claim.
IN THE SCENARIO that you're trying to get two lists before going public (as town), you would fake claim a role that was likely to be considered low priority for the mafia and thus reduce the chances of an early grave and even visits.
Ousting night actions early as possible is the smart thing to do in this situation.
Maybe, but that is far from obvious.
Mod literally gives me a list of three random players, she said, she only has to make sure that one of are scum.
Pretty sure that's identical probability.
And in the chance you get double town in those results
It's already in there.
What's not in there is the chance of being killed before two nights can pass. I don't know that number, so maybe you're right and you choose the optimal strategy.
...but that does not mean that it's absurd to think there is a reason to lie or that multiple scum lists are worse than single scum lists, and that is just one role.
Its basically a tournament style thing, it doesnt factor in statistics and win rates from other sites.
So that's individual performance. You also already admitted that town on DART tends to do better than town in these larger heterogeneous mixtures.
The final piece of the puzzle would be this: If town on individual forums does better than the large heterogeneous mixtures just like it does better on DART then it's a classic key-lock evolutionary phenomenon.
You're basically birds of paradise flashing at each other. Each subspecies does better with their own kind.
The feather pattern isn't objectively better, it's just better understood by your own community.
