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@Lemming
Do you have anger?
Are you angry with God?
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@Mall
Sometimes.
'Generally speaking,
If I experience pain, or a dislikable social interaction, I might feel angry for a bit.
But I don't have any anger towards God.
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@Lemming
Do you think if you had no anger, you believe in God?
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@sadolite
I am not angry with God, if in fact there is one. What angers me is people who speak on behalf or for God, if in fact there is a God. If there is a God, I am pretty much indifferent to God. I think if there is a God that God doesn't give a shit weather I go to heaven or hell. The bible is supposedly the word of God. From what little I know of it, I will probably go to hell. I would think the creator of everything would know best where I belong.
Surprised to hear this from you, tbh.
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@Mall
Even if I let go of anger in all various parts of my life, I don't think I'd believe in God.
Generally speaking, I don't think I'm an angry person.
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@Castin
Why is it surprising?
If there was a God that designed all this crap, he probably would be in God prison if there were other Gods.
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@sadolite
Why is it surprising?
I guess I thought you'd be a Christian with traditional ideas about God. Serves me right for making assumptions, even if they were subconscious ones.
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@Lemming
Do you want to let go of anger?
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@Castin
Yes serves you right.
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@Mall
Sometimes I read philosophy,
Sometimes they talk about anger, and putting situations in a different light,
I enjoy that well enough, try to implement it now and then.
But I've no 'huge anger problems I think.
If I could undergo a procedure to 'remove the ability to feel anger, I'd rather not.
Maybe anger can have uses.
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@Lemming
Ok so you're not willing to let go of anger. Once you have no anger, you will have peace.
If you notice, anger has no calmness. So you have no complete peace. Once you have this that can spiral out of control, then destruction.
I lived a life with anger. But now it is better to put it away.
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@Lemming
Fair points.But I've straws to grasp at.I'm not trying to convince you or myself of the truth of the Bible,But I do find it fun to puzzle over the Bible at times, or think on how X 'could work, or what use people see out of it.I also think my knowledge of it is extremely poor, and a bit pretzel twisted sometimes.While some other times, some other parts I easily cherry pick at face value.Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”apistos: Unbelieving, faithless, unfaithfulOriginal Word: ἄπιστοςPart of Speech: AdjectiveTransliteration: apistosPronunciation: AH-pees-tosPhonetic Spelling: (ap'-is-tos)KJV: that believeth not, faithless, incredible thing, infidel, unbeliever(-ing)NASB: unbelieving, unbelievers, unbeliever, incredible, unbelieving one1. (actively) disbelieving, i.e. without Christian faith2. (specially) a heathen3. (passively) untrustworthy (person) or unbelievable, incredible (thing)'Could be unbelieving and unfollowing in Gods message, constantly straying, even farther than those who follow his message and ideals, but not God.Though maybe one can argue God 'is his message in a way.Did ever any man believe in horsemanship, and not in horses? or in flute–playing, and not in flute–players? - PlatoOne is tied to the other maybe, identified by and with.
- Mark 16:16: "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."
14Later, as they were eating, Jesus appeared to the Eleven and rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen.Comes right before/ Could one argue he was specifically speaking of people of that time period and locations?Who had already heard him speak, had already seen his miracles?Ought to have had enough proof?Yet still harbored hardness in their hearts against what he exposed as good actions?
- John 3:18: "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
19And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever practices the truth comes into the Light, so that it may be seen clearly that what he has done has been accomplished in God.”fCondemned for how long though?And are they condemned because the New Testament asserts Jesus and his messages to be the best if not 'only way to salvation and good.And in following other paths, are likely to stray, though perhaps some more than others.Though some perhaps would, even in the hereafter, have an easier time getting back on the path.Some take the fires of hell, not to be literal, but of the suffering one will endure on an evil path.Of the crucible that smelts out the impurities.
- Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".
In the 'end, supposedly it 'would be God,If we supposed someone lived life as a good person, but had never heard of the Bible or any there in.They still would not end up in any deities court but God, as the Bible asserts there are no other Gods but God. I think.
The Bible is definitely fun to puzzle over. Some interesting points here. Ultimately it's all down to interpretation, but I'm skeptical that the Christian community in general would ever accept someone who followed Christ's teachings yet denied Christ himself.