Are you angry with God?

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Do you have anger?
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@Mall
Sometimes.
'Generally speaking,
If I experience pain, or a dislikable social interaction, I might feel angry for a bit.

But I don't have any anger towards God.
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Do you think if you had no anger, you believe in God?
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I am not angry with God, if in fact there is one. What angers me is people who speak on behalf or for God, if in fact there is a God. If there is a God, I am pretty much indifferent to God. I  think if there is a God that God doesn't give a shit weather I go to heaven or hell. The bible is supposedly the word of God. From what little I know of it, I will probably go to hell. I would think the creator of everything would know best where I belong.
Surprised to hear this from you, tbh.
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@Mall
Even if I let go of anger in all various parts of my life, I don't think I'd believe in God.
Generally speaking, I don't think I'm an angry person.
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Why is it surprising? 
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If there was a God that designed all this crap, he probably would be in God prison if there were other Gods.
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Why is it surprising?
I guess I thought you'd be a Christian with traditional ideas about God. Serves me right for making assumptions, even if they were subconscious ones.
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Do you want to let go of anger?
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Yes serves you right.
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Sometimes I read philosophy,
Sometimes they talk about anger, and putting situations in a different light,
I enjoy that well enough, try to implement it now and then.

But I've no 'huge anger problems I think.

If I could undergo a procedure to 'remove the ability to feel anger, I'd rather not.
Maybe anger can have uses.
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Ok so you're not willing to let go of anger. Once you have no anger, you will have peace.

If you notice, anger has no calmness. So you have no complete peace. Once you have this that can spiral out of control, then destruction.

I lived a life with anger. But now it is better to put it away.
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@Lemming
Fair points.
But I've straws to grasp at.

I'm not trying to convince you or myself of the truth of the Bible,
But I do find it fun to puzzle over the Bible at times, or think on how X 'could work, or what use people see out of it.

I also think my knowledge of it is extremely poor, and a bit pretzel twisted sometimes.
While some other times, some other parts I easily cherry pick at face value.


Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
apistos: Unbelieving, faithless, unfaithful
Original Word: ἄπιστος
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: apistos
Pronunciation: AH-pees-tos
Phonetic Spelling: (ap'-is-tos)
KJV: that believeth not, faithless, incredible thing, infidel, unbeliever(-ing)
NASB: unbelieving, unbelievers, unbeliever, incredible, unbelieving one
Word Origin: [from G1 (α - Alpha) (as a negative particle) and G4103 (πιστός - faithful)]

1. (actively) disbelieving, i.e. without Christian faith
2. (specially) a heathen
3. (passively) untrustworthy (person) or unbelievable, incredible (thing)


'Could be unbelieving and unfollowing in Gods message, constantly straying, even farther than those who follow his message and ideals, but not God.
Though maybe one can argue God 'is his message in a way.

Did ever any man believe in horsemanship, and not in horses? or in flute–playing, and not in flute–players? - Plato
One is tied to the other maybe, identified by and with.

  • Mark 16:16: "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."
14Later, as they were eating, Jesus appeared to the Eleven and rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen.

Comes right before/ Could one argue he was specifically speaking of people of that time period and locations?
Who had already heard him speak, had already seen his miracles?
Ought to have had enough proof?
Yet still harbored hardness in their hearts against what he exposed as good actions?


  • John 3:18: "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
19And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever practices the truth comes into the Light, so that it may be seen clearly that what he has done has been accomplished in God.”f

Condemned for how long though?
And are they condemned because the New Testament asserts Jesus and his messages to be the best if not 'only way to salvation and good.
And in following other paths, are likely to stray, though perhaps some more than others.
Though some perhaps would, even in the hereafter, have an easier time getting back on the path.

Some take the fires of hell, not to be literal, but of the suffering one will endure on an evil path.
Of the crucible that smelts out the impurities.

  • Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".
In the 'end, supposedly it 'would be God,
If we supposed someone lived life as a good person, but had never heard of the Bible or any there in.
They still would not end up in any deities court but God, as the Bible asserts there are no other Gods but God. I think.
The Bible is definitely fun to puzzle over. Some interesting points here. Ultimately it's all down to interpretation, but I'm skeptical that the Christian community in general would ever accept someone who followed Christ's teachings yet denied Christ himself.

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Christianity failed Jesus and his disciples. They were all killed.

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I personally am, (We're talking about the Christian god I'm assuming, I'm not mad at my own Gods/Goddesses) because if this is all part of his "Plan", then its one F'ed up plan. If he really can do anything, why wouldn't he stop bad things from happening? If he truly gave us free will, then why do we go to hell in the first plac? Why should he be mad at us for doing what he told us we could if we wanted? If he truly loved us and cared about us, he would have made our lives easier, gotten rid of lots of the evil in the world (of course not all of it, then that creates a paradox), why are we basically living in a hell on earth? 
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1 Corinthians 5:12
It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning.
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Right, but there are so many people "outside the church", that if God can judge them, why would he still let bad things happen to them if they haven't committed a serious sin? Why would he let their lives fall apart? If he truly loves all, no matter who they are, then what's the point of letting billions suffer?
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It’s the choices that humans make that causes their suffering. God has shown man the path to peace and prosperity. But it is still the freedom of choice that people have to make.
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Yes, but billions of innocent people are having pure atrocities done to them every single day, and if God can do whatever he wants, why is he just sitting back and watching everything play out like a movie? Yes I'm mad at him. I'm mad at him because while yes he gives us free will, at the same time if you don't do what he wants you to, your damned to eternal torture. When I die, and if I go to the Christian heaven (which I most definitely won't), I want a true explanation as to why the people "God loves" are suffering every day all because he chooses not to keep his own creations under control.
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The sufferings that humans endure are caused by fellow humans out of greed, cruelty and hatred. They are not caused by God. Even some of the natural disasters are caused by climate change contributed by humans burning fossil fuel.
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That doesn't change the fact that I'm angry with him. Because the thing is, all these people are innocent and did nothing truly wrong go through torture every day, and if you don't do what God says, they'll just suffer more. And that's just unfair. Because according to Christianity, Jeffrey Dahmer is currently in heaven, because he repented before he died. Yet all his victims are in hell because they committed "sin". Yes I'm mad at God. I'm mad because people who just lived their lives and used the free will God gave us, not hurting others severely or intentionally are in hell because they didn't follow his rules and/or did't believe in him. Yet absolute monsters can be in heaven all because they repented and followed God before death. Because hateful humans screaming at and hurting other human beings because they don't believe the same thing as them, like the same gender as they do, have the same skin color as they do, don't feel the same way about topics as they do, are all in heaven because they followed his word and either repented or did something else to get into heaven. Yet innocent people that purely just loved someone that wasn't the opposite gender as them, didn't believe in God/were apart of a different religion, etc, are all cursed to eternal torture even though they did nothing truly wrong. That is why I'm mad at the Christian God. 
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According to the Bible Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

So to claim their innocence goes against the Bible.

God sent his only begotten son Jesus to save the world through salvation. Maybe your pagan beliefs are interfering with your Christian understanding.
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@Shila
My religion has nothing to do with this topic. For I am not mad at my Lords and Ladies, but I'm mad at the Christian God, if he exists. I gave my reasons, and that's that. I am allowed to be angry and or frustrated with him for the topics I have shown you. That's it. I will no longer be responding to your replies after this, unless I have good reason to.
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Because of our Christian God there is a heaven. Because of your pagan gods there is a hell. You are mad as hell, but mad about heaven too. You are like the hateful humans screaming at and hurting other human beings because they don’t believe the same thing as them. Choose heaven instead and find peace.
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I don't believe in heaven or hell. In Hellenistic Polytheism, you go to the underworld, with 3 sections that I can explain to you if you wish to hear about them. My Lords and Ladies have done nothing to wrong you. The reason your hell exists is because of the Christian Satan AND the Christian God, because he created everything, no? My Gods are not mentioned once in the standard King James Bible. Also, please capitalize Gods in "Pagan Gods", because I have been respectful to your beliefs, please be respectful to mine, even if you don't agree with them. And I am not hurting anyone in any way with my beliefs, my Gods would not be happy with that. I am also at peace, my religion helped me find said peace, knowing that I shall be blessed by my Lords and Ladies. And no, I will not be "Choosing heaven", I've chosen my spiritual path, and will walk upon it until the day I die, and probably even after that.
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How can you know anything when you have listed so many unknowns in your own profile. Eg gender unknown, political ideology unknown, life’s priority unknown, even your occupation is unknown.
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Because I choose not to share that much information about myself online. I don't have to fill everything out, so why should I if I'm not comfortable? And that doesn't relate to my earlier point you were responding to. 
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So you are criticizing religious people here because you are not comfortable with them. Your discomfort is realated to your earlier post because you are criticizing their religion and God.
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I, myself, am religious. In no way am I uncomfortable with anyone's religion, I just don't believe in it. Yes, I will criticize their religion if I so choose to, as not only do I have freedom of speech, but I also enjoy finding holes in religion, sometimes even in my own. I will criticize hateful religions, because I think its stupid to do horrendous things to our own species purely because of our flawed beliefs. Some of my friends are religious, and I do occasionally bring up religion, and have a meaningful, non-hateful discussion with them. I am not uncomfortable with the topic of religion, and I also don't have to share personal information about myself online if I don't choose to. I know all of the things that marked on my profile as unknown, but you don't have to know those things.
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Your gender is unknown to you, yet you like to debate LGBTQ  issues. That’s how illogical you sound.