MEEP: Code of Conduct, S&G, reporting

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Oh, my apologies. I wrote that terribly. I meant to say that the rule that gives impunity for that is taken away. I personally won’t be affected, so I don’t care that much, but I do think personal grievances might influence decisions more. Only a potential problem, I trust you guys enough ;)
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The Questions:

1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?

2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?
  1. "Yes1" indicates with minimal restrictions. Identifying information for example, is still protected under the general doxing rule.
  2. "Yes2" indicates exclusively with moderator approval.


3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
 
 
4. Require a reason when submitting a report?


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1. Yes

2. Yes2 - Minimal restriction of privacy is an invasion of privacy, IMO. What is the point of private messaging if the messages are not private? I feel In cases of obvious harassment or threat of violence, the moderator would become involved. I do not want DebateArt to become a police state where freedom of speech is forbidden or edited. There is enough of that in your country as it is. 

3. Yes, depending on how far it is taken. All caps throughout a post are ridiculous but to emphasize a point I see nothing wrong with encasing a word or phrase in capitals. I think the rules of grammar in judging a debate should apply for coherency and aesthetic reasons such as capitalizing the start of a sentence or proper nouns, etc. 
  
4. Yes 
























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Chinese translations:
随机中文刻字
Random Chinese Typography

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Capitalism

Japanese:
番号


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You








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Yes 
Yes2 
Yes. I think encouraging organized debates is good. You're limited to what you can put into text, so milk it for all it's worth.
No
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1. Yes. I think it's an improvement.

While insulting someone is obviously wrong, it's not the mods' jobs to police it. Instead, I think it is the community's job to rebuke the offending members. Trolling really depends on the intention of the troll. I don't mind friendly ribbing or just messing with someone, but when someone has malicious intent, it is once again the community's job to rebuke the offending members. If they aren't listening to the rebuke, then ignore them. They revel in getting people riled up, so don't give them that power. If it becomes spam, then there is reason for the mods to step in.

Streamlining and codifying it is excellent, as any rules or laws should always be easy to understand.

I don't see much protection of children, but I do see an age requirement to make an account, which is definitely a good thing. I don't think Little Timmy should be on this site.

I'm a little concerned about the "no moderator harassment" rule because it all depends on what they define as harassment, but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt when they say they'll have thick skin. Mods, please do not betray this trust I have in you.

2. Yes2. Sharing PMs may be needed to establish what happened in say, a mafia game when someone C/P's their role and character to another player and the game host needs proof of the occurrence. However, private conversations should stay private in most cases. I am going to hope the mods understand that PM sharing must only happen when necessary, and that they must approve when it is necessary.

3. No. Expanding S&G would give it equal to or more power than the actual arguments being presented. Even casual debates must be argument-oriented.

4. Yes. A reason means that people can't just report a random post they don't like and hope the mods find a reason to remove it. They have to at least come up with their own reason on why it should be removed. In addition, it makes it very clear to the mods what they're dealing with.
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番号


Number
You
That was supposed to say no u but it's Google Translate lol
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This is an English speaking website. Moderators can't easily spot abuse or trolling in another language and itsit excludes most of the userbase from participating in the conversation, so please don't do that.
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Make it a policy in CoC to speak English.
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Make it a policy in CoC to speak English.
不。
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Make it a policy in CoC to speak English.

לא
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Polling (updated 05/29/2020, 11:30am PT):
Of 20 votes total...

1. Ratify the new Code of Conduct?
14 Yes, 3 No, 2 Abstain, 1 Undecided

2. Allow sharing of Private Messages?
7 Yes1, 12 Yes2, 1 No

3. Change the Voting Policy to expand S&G to include other excessive legibility issues?
14 Yes, 3 No, 3 Abstain

4. Require a reason when submitting a report?
5 Yes, 12 No1, 0 No2, 1 Abstain (2 Unclear)

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外国語でのみ合理的な狂人に話す方針を策定する
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外国語でのみ合理的な狂人に話す方針を策定する
انا اوافق علي هذا البيان
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That was supposed to say no u but it's Google Translate lol
I think it goes like this:
No means number, consider No.18 means number 18.
u means you.

No u means Number You.
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I don't know the rest, but 
合理的な狂人
means RM.

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Как я уже сказал, это Google Translate
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Sérieusement, ce n'est pas difficile de traduire quelque chose que quelqu'un a dit dans une langue étrangère en anglais.
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그는 단순히 재미를 좋아하지 않는다.

It sounds like I am being sarcastic but I am actually being dead serious.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
그는 단순히 재미를 좋아하지 않는다.
ฉันรู้และเห็นด้วยอย่างสมบูรณ์

wow...

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我不知道你能不能看出来, 但是我是中国人, 我不用谷歌翻译。
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மதிப்பீட்டாளர்கள் ஒவ்வொரு இடுகையும் மொழிபெயர்க்க விரும்பினால், எனது விருந்தினராக இருங்கள்.

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我也会说中文。
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Тэр бичлэгийг орчуулахад надад 5 секунд зарцуулсан.
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好,我们就暂且用中文对话,然后让周围人看不懂。
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Gosh, this is originally a MEEP and now it has degenerated to several people texting in different languages. 
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மற்ற நபர் தட்டச்சு செய்ததை ஒட்டுவதன் மூலம் நீங்கள் மொழிபெயர்க்கிறீர்கள். எனவே, அவர்கள் அச்சுறுத்தல் அல்லது தீவிர பார்வையைத் தட்டச்சு செய்திருந்தால், நீங்கள் அதை Google மொழிபெயர்ப்பில் தட்டச்சு செய்திருப்பீர்கள்.
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Step 1: Right click.
Step 2: Translate to English
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