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@oromagi
Croc first claimed he'd been converted to VANILLA, narrowing TUF down to VANILLA or SCUM.  TUF wisely and immediately claims VANILLA.
Explain the logic on how that makes me scum?

Now, Croc claims that he'd been converted to Amnesiac.  That either makes Croc lying SCUM or TUF third party again!
Where did he say he was an amnesiac? He said he thought he had amnesia because he thought he already claimed his results, he wasn't actually claiming a role with that lol.

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I doubt Croc would know about amnesiac or lie about being a mimic. VTL Pattern 
Love how quick you jumped on that btw, any opportunity to wagon huh?
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@Greyparrot
This strategy of killing off bad townies makes me sad.
It's more about the typical effort put into a game, then skill level. 
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This is the post Oro is talking about. I thought you were talking about being an amnesiac IRL based on you forgetting you didn't claim. Can you clarify if this was a role claim?
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oh sh1t maybe he was claiming actual amnesiac and I misunderstood the post lmao. If that's the case he is most certainly scum. I just researched what an amnesiac is and it's basically a mimic. 

unvote, vtl croc
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->@oromagi
Croc first claimed he'd been converted to VANILLA, narrowing TUF down to VANILLA or SCUM.  TUF wisely and immediately claims VANILLA.
Explain the logic on how that makes me scum?
I did.  POST#261

" Depending on what alignment that player has, the Mimic will be converted into a different role. If the targeted player is town (or Godfather), the Mimic will steal their role, and the targeted person will become Vanilla Townie. If the Mimic targets a mafia-aligned player (or a Miller), the Mimic will become a Vanilla Townie"

I'm sure you know this because the moment Croc said he'd been converted to VANILLA, you claimed VANILLA.  Your liklihood to be scum is inverse to your liklihood to be VANILLA

But nevermind all that because....

Now, Croc claims that he'd been converted to Amnesiac.  That either makes Croc lying SCUM or TUF third party again!
Where did he say he was an amnesiac? He said he thought he had amnesia because he thought he already claimed his results, he wasn't actually claiming a role with that lol.

I said in the same post you are responding to.  POST#206
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Ignore my last reply to you, I understand what you are saying now. However you are still wrong about the part in regards to me. Croc has implicated himself only here. I misunderstood that post, didn't realize he was actually claiming amnesiac after previously contradicting himself with vanilla.
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If Croc is lying, his motivation for lying is pretty murky.

I think our highest probability for good lynch now is Pattern and that will be a TP

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@oromagi
I did.  POST#261

" Depending on what alignment that player has, the Mimic will be converted into a different role. If the targeted player is town (or Godfather), the Mimic will steal their role, and the targeted person will become Vanilla Townie. If the Mimic targets a mafia-aligned player (or a Miller), the Mimic will become a Vanilla Townie"

I'm sure you know this because the moment Croc said he'd been converted to VANILLA, you claimed VANILLA.  Your liklihood to be scum is inverse to your liklihood to be VANILLA

But nevermind all that because....

You don't have a problem with the fact that he claimed 3 different roles back to back? Your just deciding to believe the one that vaguely suggests I am 3p?
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@oromagi
If Croc is lying, his motivation for lying is pretty murky.

I think our highest probability for good lynch now is Pattern and that will be a TP

Dude that is absolutely beyond ridiculous. He claimed 3 different things, mimic, vanilla, and amnesiac, and you choose to go with the third one? He quite literally lied. All he had to do was read his role PM to know which one he was.
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Pattern pretty much subtly omgus'd croc
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If pattern flips vanilla, we know that croc is lying. Lynch all liars.
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Pattern pretty much subtly omgus'd croc
Says the guy who has OMGUS'ed more than anyone in the game.

No I am voting croc because Oro is right he did claim amnesiac, I mis-understood and thought he was talking about himself in real life. Didn't even know about the amnesiac role til I just researched it.
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@Crocodile
You need to get on and clearly explain what your role is you have us all confused.
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@Pattern
i meant amnesiac like i forget stuff irl.


amnesiac has nothing to do with anything in mafia xD
i didn't even know that was a role

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@Crocodile
bruh
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OK
so this is what happened

i am a mimic, i coppied pattern

i got vanilla.

amnesiac has nothing to do with any of this ok?
it was meant to be a joke
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->@oromagi
If Croc is lying, his motivation for lying is pretty murky.

I think our highest probability for good lynch now is Pattern and that will be a TP

Dude that is absolutely beyond ridiculous. He claimed 3 different things, mimic, vanilla, and amnesiac, and you choose to go with the third one? He quite literally lied. All he had to do was read his role PM to know which one he was.

You trusted his claim 3 hours when he said you were VANILLA.  And this wouldn't be the first game when Croc claimed VANILLA when he meant something else.
I just can't see Croc gambiting amnesiac and I doubt you missed his changed claim at @#206, I think you just let it pass because you knew it outed you and you hoped nobody would notice.  You were reading/responding too actively to all other posts at the time, so your silence on the matter is damning.
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@Pattern
is bearman bad town or scum?
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@Crocodile
OK
so this is what happened

i am a mimic, i coppied pattern

i got vanilla.

amnesiac has nothing to do with any of this ok?
it was meant to be a joke
WTF?  How is amnesiac a joke?  Why are you so determined to get yourself lynched every game by refusing to state things plainly or consistently?
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@Greyparrot
anti-town does not mean scum


Ousting the doctor even though it was already obvious to multiple town players (thus making it probable that mafia already knew) isn't even that anti-town


And t1u wasn't even the doctor anyways
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@oromagi
He said he forgot.

Are you trying to get someone killed bruh
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Ok well we’re back to square one now
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Ok well we’re back to square one now
agreed.  Although TUF's lack of challenge still places him firmly in scum pile

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sorry boi
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iLikePie5 [2/6] Ragnar, oromagi
Crocodile [2/6] BearMan, Pattern
Ragnar [1/6] GreyParrot
Pattern [1/6] Pie

I know this is a messed up vote count so let me know what I need to fix


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@oromagi
agreed.  Although TUF's lack of challenge still places him firmly in scum pile
I still don’t think your thematical theory makes sense. Good vs Bad is like never true as a theme.

Let me ask you this tho: Is there any way you see a Croc, Pattern team?
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Pattern [1/6] Pie
I’m on Skitlez
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Got to say it: This feels like Croc and Pattern are in a scum team, with Pattern very frustrated that Croc is messing up on even fake claiming, then having to privately correct him.

This is not to forget that Pie is my leaning scum candidate, but...

Unvote,
VTL Pattern