I don't think I did flip flop on my position, and I explained that my position was to get a claim, not a lynch. You didn't accept that, but it doesn't make what I said a flip flop. Readily backing down is, and I mean this seriously, awfully common in my play. It's not something I'm proud of. I've also been pushed into posting a lot. Again, not something I'm proud of. As for logical inconsistencies, that's basically the majority of posts I've seen nailing someone as obviously town or obviously scum, especially in DP1. They're all based on pulling at straws, and yes, in many cases inconsistent with what that same person said earlier. I was not alone in logical inconsistencies.
YOU WERE SCUM. I am sorry for not accepting your explanation for your logical inconsistencies as scum? I don't know what you want from me. Logical inconsistency is a common scum tell. I am sorry I noticed it and didn't buy your scum motivated explanation.
And yes, I did find it problematic that you were using the fact that I was away and had other things to do as yet another reason to scum read me. I'm sorry that I wasn't on to respond to you at 9 PM. It's fucking frustrating to have someone proclaiming that I'm somehow more guilty for having other things to do. You can say that it's just the cherry on top, but seriously, it was a bit much. And yes, I used the rest of my post to give my reads, weak and uninteresting though they are. Surprise, surprise, I'm still rather new to this, and don't produce the best reads early on.
It is weird that you were annoyed and took it personal that a townie was building a case on you as scum. Again this wasn't a primary part of my argument, but it was valid. You came on, made a barely responsive post to my arguments, then disappeared immediately with no other posts, no scum hunting, no response to Bullish's reads, no response to the lunatic Bullish flamewar. That was scummy. Because again, scum is focused on not being read as scum as a primary goal, not investigating or hunting for scum. It is possible for a town to be absent in critical moments, so it would not be enough for me to lynch you, but was worth noting on top of my prior analysis. Maybe you really were fully inactive from the game during that period, but I would be curious if you were inactive in your scum PM through that whole period of time, before I would be willing to let go of the fact that it appeared you were trying to stay under the radar and let me scum read fizzle out (a good strategy by the way, so there's not reason to be offended by it).
My blanket response to many of your bases for scum reading me was the same: this is how I play. You didn't want to accept that as an answer from me, Speed, Lunatic, or MisterChris, but that was the answer I gave. If I had been town in this game, I would have given you the same answer. You want to call it scummy? Fine, then I'd be scummy no matter what side I was on. If I had been town this game, you would have had the same amount of reason to lynch me because I would have behaved exactly the same through all of DP1 and most of DP2. You have 4 people telling you this. If you don't want to accept that at this stage, then I guess I should just expect for you to have a lynch called on me every game we play together. That's bound to be fun.
You just admitted you are new. So the fact that you think you played "as town" in your first game as scum is silly. You were scum, you had an informed perspective, a chat with two other scum buddies, fake claims, a motivation to avoid being lynched and avoid the lynch of your scum buddies as much as possible, a motive to avoid suspiscion, a motive to "appear town," and a motive to have mislynches.
You kept pushing a scum read on waters, but wouldn't vote him. I am sure there was a scum motive for that. No matter what, at the end of the day you were scum, and therefore your behavior was scum. It is very hard and takes a lot of experience to remove all of the scum thoughts and motives from your play and play convincingly town as scum. I am certain I won't have a scum read on you in every game we play together because you won't be scum in every game. I am not sure why you are bothered and feel the need to undermine my scum read. When I have had a player scum read me I come into endgame and say , woah good read, nice play you had me nervous, so glad I was able to avoid a lynch in spite of you.
And I will say it one more time. Your play was logically inconsistent and demonstrated anti-town motives, that was the basis of my read. Not passivity. No one, lunatic, speed, or misterchris addressed this. They all were focused on the passivity aspect, which is why my read was unchanged from their input. The only reason I noticed your scum motivation was because I did an ISO on your posts. Nonetheless, it went undetected by 70% of town so its a good outcome for you.
