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@Greyparrot
You really need to check your skin color privilege bro.
Why do your examples not scare the shit out of me ?
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@RationalMadman
anyone who designs different medicines for different races regarding diabetes and blood pressure amongst other things
How will the half-breeds get "the right medicine" ?
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@Fruit_Inspector
IS THE CONSTITUTION PART OF THE SYSTEM OF WHITE SUPREMACY?PERHAPS A CASE CAN BE MADE FOR THAT, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FUNCTION OF THE SUPREME COURTWHAT DOES THE FUNCTION OF THE SUPREME COURT HAVE TO DO WITH A THREAD ABOUT SYSTEMIC RACISM?
I HAVE NO IDEA, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE CONSTITUTION IN THE FIRST PLACE.
If you want government bureaucrats to be in charge of determining what human rights you deserve,THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW.Not quite. The politicians who think they have the right to rule as totalitarians still have the Constitution to keep them in check. But even that can only last so long when people have no desire for freedom. Just give them their iphone and a bag of Cheetos and they'll let the government bureaucrats do whatever they want.
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@Wylted
So as a liberal, you think that it is better to defeat arguments you disagree with by banning the arguments, than it is by confronting them?
CENSORSHIP is like an inoculation against REVOLUTION.
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@949havoc
it is non-existent outside the mind, which can, at will, create fantasy as easily as fact.
JUST LIKE GOD.
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@Fruit_Inspector
If you want government bureaucrats to be in charge of determining what human rights you deserve,THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW.Not quite.
WAKE THE FUCK UP.
When Jerry Hartfield walked out of the Hutchins State Jail in Dallas on Monday into the sunlight and the arms of his family, he became one of the most unlikely prisoners ever to be freed early in Texas. He wasn’t exonerated or released on parole. He wasn’t pardoned by the governor. No one else has confessed to the murder for which he was convicted in 1977. No DNA cleared him. No witness recanted. No celebrities pleaded his cause.
Hartfield was freed from prison because Texas finally gave up trying to find a valid reason to keep him there. He had waited 35 years between trials without a conviction, a prisoner simply forgotten for decades in the state’s massive justice system. [**]
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@Fruit_Inspector
IS THE CONSTITUTION PART OF THE SYSTEM OF WHITE SUPREMACY?
PERHAPS A CASE CAN BE MADE FOR THAT, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FUNCTION OF THE SUPREME COURT
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@Fruit_Inspector
Why should the Supreme Court respect a racist document that is part of the system of white supremacy? Are you a white supremacists?
THE ONLY JUSTIFICATION FOR THE EXISTENCE OF THE SUPREME COURT IS TO RULE ON THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF LAWS SPEWED FORTH FROM CONGRESS
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@Fruit_Inspector
But isn't the Constitution itself part of the system of white supremacy? It was written by white men for white men. Why should they respect it?
That's a completely different conversation (which I'm more than happy to engage in).
The critical point here is that the SUPREME COURT has ZERO respect for any and all documents.
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seriously.
is your argument really that the black supremacist's will overthrow the government and their first act will be to draft sweeping federal laws that create BLACKS ONLY bathrooms and swimming pools and water fountains and schools and libraries ?
is that really why you're completely freaking out about "criticalracetheory" ?
criticalracetheory
criticalracetheory
criticalracetheory
criticalracetheory
are you afraid that mayonnaise and coffee will be criminalized as a flimsy pretext for mass incarceration of THE WHITE RACE ?
i can't tell if you're joking or not.
please explain this to me.
why am i not even slightly afraid of any of this ?
THE ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS WAKING NIGHTMARE OF LEROY CROW
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@Fruit_Inspector
The politicians who think they have the right to rule as totalitarians still have the Constitution to keep them in check.
THEY OWN THE SUPREME COURT (WHICH ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT RESPECT ANY DOCUMENT).
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@Fruit_Inspector
If you want government bureaucrats to be in charge of determining what human rights you deserve,
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
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@Mesmer
(IFF) RACE IS SUBJECTIVE AND ARBITRARY (THEN) RACISM IS SUBJECTIVE AND ARBITRARY
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@Mesmer
Don't do a Ragnar now and keep repeating your conclusion over and over -- it doesn't make you any more right.
Don't do a Mesmer now and keep avoiding the point over and over -- it doesn't make you any more right.
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@Mesmer
(IFF) RACE IS REAL (THEN) RACISM IS REAL
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@Mesmer
You can't keep saying this and ALSO insisting that "racerealismisobjectivelytrue".Why not lol?
People who hate and or have a strong preference against a realobjectiverace are objectivelyracists.
In other words,
(IFF) RACE IS REAL (THEN) RACISM IS REAL
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@Mesmer
"Racism" is a nonsense term.
You can't keep saying this and ALSO insisting that "racerealismisobjectivelytrue".
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@RationalMadman
here's a powerful piece by him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Q-DUj9OHw
Good stuff,
Here's the same message in 3 minutes,
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@Mesmer
You might like this,
Stanford University's AI can tell if you're gay or straight from a photo
Michal Kosinski and Yilun Wang’s algorithm can accurately guess if a person is straight or gay based on a photo of their face. This was achieved using a sample of over 35,000 images that had been publicly posted on a US dating site, with an even representation of gay and straight (determined through their profiles) and male and female subjects.
The deep neural networks extracted features from the huge dataset, identifying certain trends to help it determine a person’s sexuality. Gay men tended to have “gender-atypical” features, expressions and grooming styles, meaning they appeared more feminine. They often had narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads than straight men. The opposite was true for gay women, who generally had larger jaws and smaller foreheads.
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@Mesmer
Therefore, any noticable difference in outcome or performance, logically speaking, cannot be a result of genes. Otherwise such large disparations would not account for such a wide population of said group, it is therefore most likely the case that environment is the cause of said differences in outcomes.Your 100% environment explanation is fringe, stupid and wrong. You're literally denying the existence of genetics, at this point -- you are that stupid.
Among the "races", Africans have a much higher level of genetic diversity than the other "races" combined.
If there were meaningful human "races", most of them would be African.
Dog breeds aren't particularly interesting biological entities, either. Many modern dog breeds claim to have ancient roots, but they are, for the most part, relatively recent (within the past few hundred years) reconstructions of purportedly ancient breeds. You can take this as a testament to how well selective breeding can effect great physical change in a very short time.
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@Mesmer
Notwithstanding that......Everyone is aware of perceivable differences and either does or doesn't discriminate....Therefore, race realism.Race realism isn't built upon just "perceivable differences". It's built upon research and data that show "perceivable differences" are scientifically sound concepts (e.g. race).
A CLASSIC CASE OF A CONCLUSION SEARCHING DESPERATELY FOR A JUSTIFICATION.
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@Double_R
You haven’t addressed a damn thing, that’s why I dropped the rest of it and asked you again to address the part of the conversation that actually mattered. You now respond by dropping the entire conversation.
Well stated.
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@zedvictor4
As I stated to 3RU7AL....Race Realism is a truism....Doesn't take a lot of science to work it out.
EXACTLY HOW MANY "RACES" ARE OBJECTIVELY AND SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIABLE ?
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@zedvictor4
Moral capacity is a variable concept, greatly influenced by variable conditioning and not directly relative to mental capacity or incapacity.Genetic modification and development is such that better and smarter, was/is an inevitability.In simple terms better and smarter, tends to breed with better and smarter.And history clearly shows us that better and smarter certainly does have a variable approach to morality.And physical characteristics are generally pretty standard anyway..... One head, two arms, two legs, with a few cosmetic variations, as it were.
Is this a "yes" or a "no" ?
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@zedvictor4
Would you say that "some people (with similar physical characteristics) are born better and smarter and with greater moral capacity" ?
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@Greyparrot
CRT fully implemented as systemic racism.
Why am I not afraid of this ?
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@Greyparrot
Perhaps we need an era of Leroy Crow to drive the point home.
What would that look like ?
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@Fruit_Inspector
What philosophy will lead to NOT total-government-control ?What's that one called ?Not-Marxism?
i hope you realize that adolphhitler was staunchly anti-marxist.
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@drlebronski
pretty much but i do get why he would make that distinctionDo you think the disparity between penalties for powder-cocaine and crack-cocaine are evidence of systemic-racism™ ?
CIA OPERATIVE EXPLAINS HOW YOUR GOVERNMENT SUPPLIES CRACK COCAINE TO DRUG DEALERS
“Crack: Cocaine, Corruption & Conspiracy,” the latest doc from filmmaker Stanley Nelson, explores how crack cocaine—and the government—inflicted untold damage on Black America.
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@Mesmer
I hope these understandings help you comprehend race realism better.
Would you say that "race-realism" means "some people are born better and smarter and with greater moral capacity" ?
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@zedvictor4
Everyone is aware of perceivable differences and either does or doesn't discriminate
That's not the same as "race-realism".
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@Sum1hugme
You can know x because you have inductive reasons to believe x, and if that belief corresponds to reality. If knowledge is justified true belief, then you can have knowledge through induction. The problem of induction does not mean we can't have knowledge about reality.
"justified true belief" is a rather muddled concept itself.
However, I think you're on the right track here.
In the same way a general doesn't require perfect knowledge of a battlefield before making a plan of attack,
We don't require perfect confidence in our ability to predict future events before we as individuals plan and act.
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@Intelligence_06
Human experience and human knowledge is FUNDAMENTALY SUBJECTIVE.
QUANTA is empirically demonstrable and or logically necessary (and emotionally meaningless).
QUALIA is experiential, personal, private, gnostic (and emotionally meaningful).
Claiming your "understanding" is in any way "objective" is absurd.
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@dfss9788
Well map every single gene on the genome and figure out what all of it does, come back with a list of impacts and figure out which loci are important and which are not. Assign them a significance value, say 1-10. Then you can say "this gene matters, this gene doesn't matter" etc. Let me guess: You're going to select the ancestral markers as the only important loci.
Well stated.
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@StevenCrowder
anarchism would be chaotic an ideology that promotes so much violence and chaos should not be promoted
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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@Mesmer
HUMANS WERE CATEGORIZED BY PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS LONG BEFORE "GENETIC MARKERS" WERE EVER PROPOSEDYes, biology didn't exist until genetic markers were proposed.
THE IDENTIFICATION AND DISCRIMINATION OF AND AGAINST PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS EXISTS INDEPENDENTLY OF "GENETIC MARKERS".
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@Mesmer
"RACE" HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH "GENETICS"This is the most stupid thing I've seen you say. It's also within the top 10 most stupid comments I've seen on this website.The Weekly Stupid should be brought back just for this comment.
HUMANS WERE CATEGORIZED BY PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS LONG BEFORE "GENETIC MARKERS" WERE EVER PROPOSED
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@Mesmer
I hope these understandings help you comprehend race realism better.
"RACE" HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH "GENETICS"
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@dfss9788
Well, I will try showing it to you in another way because it did not work. You should not conflate that with a concession.
100% THIS.
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@Mesmer
Your question isn't what the OP is about. Policy discussion happens *after* people agree that race realism is a reality. You're moving the goalposts by demanding that I provide airtight governmental policy with race realism. As to what governmental policy should be applied when race realism as accepted is entirely irrelevant to the validity of race realism.
What is the **actual** difference between the HUTU and TUTSI tribes ?
The TUTSI are taller and more elegant.
IT WAS THE **BELGIANS** THAT CREATED THE DIVISION.
IT WAS THE **BELGIANS** THAT CREATED THE DIVISION.
How ?
They picked people, those with thinner noses and lighter skin, they used to measure the width of people's noses.
The **BELGIANS** used the TUTSI to run the country.
And then when they left, they left the power to the HUTU.
And of course the HUTU took revenge on the "elite" TUTSI for years of repression.
Am I telling the truth Paul ?
Yes, unfortunately.
[SKIP TO 31 SECONDS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOSq9a8Hc8&t=31s)
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@Aryanman
History of US-Iran Conflict Explained
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@Intelligence_06
You cannot prove that the next time you push a shopping cart "forward" and nothing else, it won't push back at you and smash you to the walls. You cannot prove that the next time an apple grows ripe, it won't fall endlessly to the sky. Even though we tend to believe our experiences and more often times than not, you see the objects behave exactly like how the old people tell you through the physic textbook that they are going to behave, it is through YOUR vision. You can only prove that this time it worked, subjectively, but never that it WILL work next time, objectively.
HUME OR
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@Athias
Taxation is merely a mechanism to control inflation.Taxation can be used to regulate inflation, but not just merely.A much more efficient way to control inflation would be to raise the mandatory reserve rate for banks.Governments (sponsored and sanction by International Banks) will never allow this to happen because they don't want "real money" being exchanged.
Close enough.
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@Athias
Taxation doesn't "fund" anything.What is the source of government revenue? With what does the government make expenditures?
Great question.
They used to collect (gold) tariffs on imported goods.
They also collected (gold) in exchange for leases of natural resources.
Today, they simply print paper and enforce hypothetical "value" with soldiers.
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@Athias
But, this leads me to ask: is unconditional love excluded in Capitalism?
LOVE is not CAPITALISTIC.
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@Athias
You neglect to mention the cost-burden and debt which parents willingly take on by exhibiting their unconditional love. That's all fine if they're willing participants; no such discretion, however, is allowed in communism.
What are you talking about ?
Is all human life intrinsically valuable, or are some people worth more than others ?
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@Athias
In a capitalist framework, you only give things away for free, IFF THERE IS A LONG-TERM PROFIT INCENTIVE.Why would charity within a capitalistic framework be necessarily contingent on long-term profits?
Charity is not CAPITALISTIC.
A capitalist might choose to voluntarily gift items and or fiat as they see fit, but the act of gift giving is not CAPITALISTIC.
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@Athias
Your own children (citizens) should not be a source of income.What if a child is doing something he or she loves? My first cousin, once removed, is about twelve years old, and she earns an income online. My first cousin, her mother, permits her to do this, and lets her keep all her money. Is she, my first cousin that is, doing something wrong?
The child (citizen) may contribute fiat and or labor to the family (collective) voluntarily.
I think you will probably agree that they should not be coerced.
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@949havoc
I did originate as an egg. As my earliest memory is only at four, can't say abandonment was part of the equation, but that early memory was as a member of a small group of other people that did become fixated as an intact family.
And would you describe this unit as a "democracy" ?
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