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@Theweakeredge
"The activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power." I'd say that military and political aims are very intertwined.
Ok, so would you agree that fire-bombing a civilian population in order to "settle a debate" about who should control the Pacific Ocean qualifies as an "Act of Terrorism"?
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@Tarik
No I’m saying talking about it has no bearing on objectivity.
What does "objectivity" have to do with anything?
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@TheUnderdog
Twitter can’t be both.
Apparently they can.
Section 230 does not make "moderation" impossible.
Capricious & Tyrannical "moderation" is fully compliant with Section 230.
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That is why there is evidence given to imply intent.
There is no way to prove "intent".
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@TheUnderdog
That amendment would legalize all victimless crimes
If everyone let their lawns grow long and let their trash pile up in their yards, would there be a "victim"?
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@EtrnlVw
The one thing I do know is that nobody knows what the F is going on.I can see why you would believe that, especially with such a vast array of information and seemingly contradicting religious sources and a method of study limited to just the material aspect of things but it's not really that complicated and there's been a lot of intelligent beings that have highlighted factual bits of knowledge. Once the pieces are all sorted out and put in the correct spaces we have pretty clear picture. You just need someone who can put all the pieces in the correct order or maybe you configure it yourself.
For example,
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@janesix
I guess though, if the answers were handed to me, I would miss the mystery which is a significant and pleasant, sometimes exciting part of life.
Sometimes you can have both.
Many of my "epiphanies" have been from remembering things I was told or read many years prior that finally "clicked".
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@ludofl3x
You say that as if your very wordy shoulder shrugs and pretending to know something everyone else doesn't counts as an argument, when you have literally demonstrated nothing at all. You're not making arguments. YOu're making assertions.
Well stated.
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@janesix
They show me things I did not know. THat is how I know they are real.
Private, direct experience = GNOSTICISM
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@EtrnlVw
Now lets pretend for a moment that God (as proposed as the origins of our existence) is not the product of wishful thinking, lack of intelligence, indoctrination, mental illness or whatever BS atheists presume and that God does exist. How do you think these presumptuous attitudes help in honest, thought provoking debate? how will this help between two people trying to solve an inquiry about this subject matter?
Ok.
Your "intelligent" "creator" "god" is totally real in the realest real literally real real way.
What does your "god" want me to do?
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@FLRW
Our dependence is well expressed in that verse when Paul wrote about the thorn in his flesh. Paul pleaded with God three times to take it away but God told him that His power is made perfect in Paul's weakness. ... God simply wants us to surrender our inadequacy to him so that He can fill us with His strength.
Humans are worthless trash, that's why they need "YHWH".
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@Tarik
But if a description isn't necessary, HOW THE HELL CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IT.Talking about facts isn’t necessary either.
Ok.
So, are you suggesting we shouldn't talk about facts?
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@Theweakeredge
It's really not that hard to find... did you not think there were any?
These all sound like military aims.
Do you believe all military aims also political aims?
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@TheUnderdog
Let’s make our rights real and not an illusion.
What's your plan?
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@TheUnderdog
Such a way should not be pursued in the land of the free.
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@Tarik
No it’s just that reality, a description isn’t necessary.
Sure. Maybe. Perhaps.
But if a description isn't necessary, HOW THE HELL CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, WITH WORDS.
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@Theweakeredge
What do you think were the "political aims" of the 911 "terror" attacks?
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@Theweakeredge
Your definition includes intimidation.
So, if someone told voters that if they vote for the wrong candidate, they'll lose their jobs, would that qualify as intimidation for political ends?
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@drafterman
The first amendment absolutely gives companies like Twitter the right to censor content on their platform.
Correct.
The first amendment only stops THE GOVERNMENT from forcing people to say or not say specific things.
A company can make up whatever rules (regarding speech) they want.
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@TheUnderdog
They can choose to buy Parler or not.
Good point.
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@ethang5
Amazon is backtracking a little now because they know they would lose in court.
Citation please.
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@Theweakeredge
"A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims"
So, like a mobster running for city council?
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@ethang5
It is impossible to quantify what a person "sincerely believed at the time".
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@Tarik
The claim that facts don’t exist without humans,
FACTS are technically "accurate descriptions of REALITY".
You can't DESCRIBE anything without humans.
THE MAP IS NOT THE TERRITORY.
a factual statement is not the exact same thing as what that statement describes.
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@Death23
Additionally, senators don't really have to vote to convict him.
Republican Senators are still interested in courting those 75 million "rabid" "insurrectionists" who voted for the accused.
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@FLRW
Yes, I am 100% in favor of making ALL LYING ILLEGAL. But there has to a stipulation that the facts are verifiable.
FACTS must be empirically demonstrable and or logically-necessary.
ALL OPINION MUST BE CLEARLY STATED AS OPINION.
ALL SPECULATION AND CONJECTURE MUST BE CLEARLY STATED AS OPINION.
ALL AD HOMINEM ATTACKS MUST BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AS OPINION.
ALL FICTION MUST BE CLEARLY LABELED AS FICTION.
CONFIDENTLY STATING OPINION AS IF IT WERE FACT SHOULD BE A CRIME (PERJURY).
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@Theweakeredge
the entire "qualified immunity" is a problem.
I'll see you at the next BLM protest.
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@Theweakeredge
Terrorist actually does mean a specific thing
What does the word mean to you?
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@ethang5
LEVITICUS 25:
44, Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
45, You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
46, You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
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@n8nrgmi
AMAZON canceling your web hosting without notice is like your electric company cutting power to your house because they don't like what you said over the phone.
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@EtrnlVw
I'm usually defending myself from a position of being treated as inferior because of my beliefs per say.
Me too.
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@Wagyu
however this just brings us down the dangerous rabbit hole of identity politics.Is segregating people by the race wise? Is limiting vocabulary on the basis of one’s race in fact racist?
Ok.
Here's the trick.
It's considered "RUDE" for certain people to use certain words.
THIS IS NOT A LEGAL DISTINCTION.
That's an important point.
There is no LAW that limits specific words based on personal identification.
HOwEVer,
You can be kicked out of school for being "RUDE" ("anti-social" and or "disruptive").
Now, STRANGELY, unlike a legal case where "intention" and "motive" are explored, YOUR SCHOOL GETS TO DECIDE ON THE FLY WHAT QUALIFIES AS "RUDE".
This qualification is both capricious and tyrannical. Anyone who might dare to question this assessment is automatically disqualified.
LAW IS CODIFIED MOB RULE.
the sooner you learn this, the sooner everything will make sense.
WORDS AND SYMBOLS ARE INHERENTLY MEANINGLESS.
WORDS AND SYMBOLS ARE UNDEFINED VARIABLES.
WE BRAINWASH PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THAT CERTAIN WORDS AND SYMBOLS MEAN SPECIFIC THINGS.
RULE #1: DON'T SCARE THE SHEEPS
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@ethang5
Atheist forget that small fact when they try to argue that the Bible condones slavery.
ONLY ISRAELITE "INDENTURED SERVANTS" WERE "PAID".
FOREIGN BORN SLAVES WERE OWNED FOR LIFE AND INHERITED BY HEIRS.
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@Tarik
How do you support this claim?The BOP is on you since your the one that’s adding external factors into the equation.
What are you talking about?
Please explain exactly what you think my claim is.
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@Tradesecret
If I did not do any of these things - I still would not be indirectly killing people.
Do you believe that people who support medical privacy ARE "indirectly killing people"?
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@Tradesecret
Since 1189, English law has been a common law, not a civil law system; in other words, no comprehensive codification of the law has taken place and judicial precedents are binding as opposed to persuasive. This may be a legacy of the Norman conquest of England, when a number of legal concepts and institutions from Norman law were introduced to England. In the early centuries of English common law, the justices and judges were responsible for adapting the system of writs to meet everyday needs, applying a mixture of precedent and common sense to build up a body of internally consistent law. An example is the Law Merchant derived from the "Pie-Powder" Courts, named from a corruption of the French pieds-poudrés ("dusty feet") implying ad hoc marketplace courts. [LINK]
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@Death23
There is ZERO chance that senate republicans are going to vote to convict.Based on what?
So if all four of these senators ended up voting to convict Trump, 13 others would have to join to have him convicted. [LINK]
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@Theweakeredge
How Cops Get Away With Murder: Qualified Immunity (LegalEagle’s Law Review)
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@Theweakeredge
The problem isn't the word, its a category, the problem is the connotation and criminal system.
The problem is that the word itself suggests that some people don't deserve the same type of fair trial you would expect for yourself.
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@fauxlaw
I'm not claiming anyone is a terrorist
Are you suggesting that all humans should have the right to a fair trial?
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@fauxlaw
Like I said, she me a gov't that follows its own rules unerringly. Go ahead and complain. I'm sure they'll listen. I've stopped.
Attempting to label all Trump supporters as "terrorists" is a dangerous precedent.
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@Tradesecret
If all of the towns and cities had the same laws (based on the holy scriptures) why was it such a difficult task to compile them into a uniform code?
Did each town and city perhaps have their own unique interpretation of what was generally considered appropriate?
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@fauxlaw
This case concerns the unlawful detention of a U.S. citizen without charges or trial and issues as to whether such detention by military officials violates due process of law, violates the doctrine mandating the supremacy of civilian authority over the military and violates a congressional enactment prohibiting the detention of U.S. citizens unless authorized by Congress.
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@Theweakeredge
And I disagree with the practice, thus, terrorist should get civil rights. A terrorist is a criminal, just a criminal who engaged in crime of a higher degree and specific sort - I don't think that rids of us moral obligation.
I think the word "terrorist" itself is a problem.
I'm certain the Red Coats considered the American Revolutionaries "terrorists".
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@fauxlaw
Tell me, when. does a "terrorist" become an enemy combatant, held on foreign soil in a "secret prison." Do all foreigners on all foreign soils have any other right than due process when on American soil? No. And if not? No, and not even due process.
So, you're not a big fan of "human rights"?
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@Tradesecret
Please explain what you think "the law" is and where do you think it comes from?
Common Law is the basis of Civil Law.
Common Law is a compilation of social norms and traditions from various towns and cities.
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@Tradesecret
Please explain how you decide who should live and who should die.
Sure, you don't kill people with your own hands.
Please explain how you decide who SHOULD live and who SHOULD die.
For example,
You could probably save the lives of many starving children if you devoted your energy and resources to feeding some starving children.
Are you indirectly killing those children by not devoting your energy and resources to feeding some starving children?
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