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@fauxlaw
to educate them them, along with all their children. You're really going to use education as a negative foil. Very progressive of you
I see. So your precious "nuclear family" must be ripped apart in order to "educate" children (and specifically to convert them to your preferred religion)?
That doesn't sound particularly "pro family" to me.
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@Greyparrot
Why do I need someone in authority like Pol Pot to tell me what level of equality I must live by?
Well, you sound like an anarchist.
Would you describe yourself as an anarchist?
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@Greyparrot
According to you. How many more times are you going to tell me what is normal and what is not normal? Why do I need you to do this for me?
Please be slightly more specific.
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@Greyparrot
The key lesson of Animal Farm is that loyal police dogs and a good lie are all you need to live a long and happy life.
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@Greyparrot
You might disagree, but if you're going to just make up your own personal definitions, please at least make them explicit.
...it was indeed the elite pigs that dictated the level of equality on the farm,
Which explains exactly how they were NOT egalitarian.
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@Tradesecret
The Great Depression spurred State ownership in Western capitalist countries. Germany was noexception; the last governments of the Weimar Republic took over firms in diverse sectors. Later,the Nazi regime transferred public ownership and public services to the private sector. In doingso, they went against the mainstream trends in the Western capitalist countries, none of whichsystematically reprivatized firms during the 1930s. Privatization in Nazi Germany was alsounique in transferring to private hands the delivery of public services previously provided bygovernment. The firms and the services transferred to private ownership belonged to diversesectors. Privatization was part of an intentional policy with multiple objectives and was notideologically driven. As in many recent privatizations, particularly within the European Union,strong financial restrictions were a central motivation. In addition, privatization was used as apolitical tool to enhance support for the government and for the Nazi Party.
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@Tradesecret
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far right within the traditional left–right spectrum.
Do you happen to oppose liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism??
Corporatist economic system
The Fascist regime created a corporatist economic system in 1925 with creation of the Palazzo Vidioni Pact, in which the Italian employers' association Confindustria and Fascist trade unions agreed to recognize each other as the sole representatives of Italy's employers and employees, excluding non-Fascist trade unions.[153] The Fascist regime first created a Ministry of Corporations that organized the Italian economy into 22 sectoral corporations, banned workers' strikes and lock-outs and in 1927 created the Charter of Labour, which established workers' rights and duties and created labour tribunals to arbitrate employer-employee disputes.[153] In practice, the sectoral corporations exercised little independence and were largely controlled by the regime and employee organizations were rarely led by employees themselves, but instead by appointed Fascist party members.[153]
It's funny how today, it's the corporations who appoint government officials.
SEXY, SEXY FASCISM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_sZdX3tFFU&feature=youtu.be&t=6
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@fauxlaw
Preservation of the nuclear family; the foundation of a civil society.
So, why did "conservatives" force hundreds of thousands of native american children into boarding schools?
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@Greyparrot
EGALITARIANISM
- n.
- n.the doctrine of the equality of mankind and the desirability of political and economic and social equality
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@ebuc
NEW NORMAL = POLICE STATE
Melbourne on brink of TWO YEAR lockdown - [LINK]
New Zealand is forcing positive tested individuals AND THEIR FAMILIES into Quarantine Camps - [LINK]
CDC gives three-month window of immunity after COVID-19(84) infection - [LINK]
CDC WARNS THAT RECOVERED PATIENTS WILL PROBABLY TEST POSITIVE FOR 3 MONTHS AFTER RECOVERY. - [LINK]
Get ready for your "vaccination shots" every 3 months!!
More detail from a medical professional,
Nothing is more important as time is very short - the Government of U.K. is voting for a TWO YEAR extension of their "emergency" COVID-19(84) powers in September 2020 - the first 6 months was a disaster - this must not be allowed to continue. Trafalgar Square, London Saturday 29th August 2020 at 12:00
NEW NORMAL = POLICE STATE
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@ebuc
Put on your mask.
Stand over your rubbish bin.
Can you smell anything?
The COVID-19(84) is smaller than those particles you are smelling from your rubbish bin.
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@ebuc
YOU WILL BREATHE INFECTED PARTICLES.
THIS DISEASE IS HIGHLY INFECTIOUS AND SUPER DEADLY.
IN ORDER TO MITIGATE YOUR RISK, YOU SHOULD STAY HOME AND WASH YOUR MAIL.
VENTURING INTO PUBLIC SPACE WITH A MASK IS A DEATH SENTENCE.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY.
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@ebuc
If you're in any building with other people wearing masks, you're going to breathe in their 1 micron breath particles NO MATTER WHERE YOU STAND.Not neccesarily as many as if you did not wear any mask, because, you do not really know the density of the the particles in every public settings set of circumstances inside a public buiding. Ex Ive heard for many months that good circulation of air helps reduce the chances of spreading the virus. And not I do not the specifics of how that works, if it truly does.
YOU WILL BREATHE INFECTED PARTICLES.
THIS DISEASE IS HIGHLY INFECTIOUS AND SUPER DEADLY.
IN ORDER TO MITIGATE YOUR RISK, YOU SHOULD STAY HOME AND WASH YOUR MAIL.
VENTURING INTO PUBLIC SPACE WITH A MASK IS A DEATH SENTENCE.
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@ebuc
..."The claim that the masks themselves stopped the spread of the virus is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE."..3R, that above appears to mea as a false narrative, because, nowhere in the Mayo clinic article I referenced, did they state what you say above. If they did,please point the exact statment in that referrence to me. Please.
I don't subscribe to naked appeals to authority.
FACT: the contaminated water droplets you breathe are 1 micron in size.
FACT: none of the masks reliably stop particles smaller than 3 microns.
FACT: none of the masks are airtight, THEREFORE, even if they did reliably filter your contaminated breath, unfiltered breath passes by your cheeks and chin.
THESE ARE VERIFIABLE FACTS. THESE FACTS ARE NOT IN DISPUTE BY ANYONE. YOU HAVE NOT PRESENTED ANY COUNTERFACTUALS.
FACT =/= "NARRATIVE"
Watch 15 seconds of this interview with the OFFICIAL AUTHORITY.
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@ebuc
Watch 15 seconds of this interview with the OFFICIAL AUTHORITY.
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@oromagi
Take voting rights, for example. American Conservatives must uphold the franchise as a constitutional and indeed God given right. Right WIngers believe in reserving that franchise for right-wingers wherever possible.
- Yesterday, Trump explained his reason for defunding the Post Office, "They need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots, If they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting because they’re not equipped to have it.”
- That's quite explicit- Trump opposes the Post Office because TRump opposes universal voting.
- Yesterday,White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow argued, "So much of the, uh, uh, Democratic, uh, asks, are really liberal left wish lists, as we don’t want a — vote — you know, voting rights, and aid to aliens, and so forth. That’s not our game."
Excellent reporting.
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@oromagi
That's quite clear, the right wing prioritizes god & king.
Well stated.
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@Vader
Having a more powerful federal government is bad
I agree 100%.
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@Vader
Conservatives are the ones who don't want to allow a doctor to assist you in your death when you are so sick that you don't want to live anymore.?
THIS IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY. WHICH A "LIBERTARIAN" SHOULD UNDERSTAND.
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@Vader
I think abortion shouldn't be publicly founded.
I think corporations like the airline industry and the pharmaceutical industry and the entertainment industry and the oil industry shouldn't be publicly funded.
It is against my religion to get an abortion,
THEN DON'T GET ONE.
yet our family is paying tax dollars for people to have abortions.
BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED MEDICAL CARE. WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE PRIVATE.
I also don't like the idea that my family is paying tax dollars for people to get circumcisions (a religious genital mutilation).
That isn't fair. Abortions should be privatized with government regulation.
It's also "not fair" that religious charities receive federal money.
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@Vader
If they become #1, who knows what will happen
Well, they'll probably start acting like the U.S.A. (spreading their version of "morality" across the globe).
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@Greyparrot
Which means this charade will probably continue long after Trump is gone and forgotten.
Won't get fooled again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
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@ebuc
Yes it does matter where you stand.
If you're in any building with other people wearing masks, you're going to breathe in their 1 micron breath particles NO MATTER WHERE YOU STAND.
Inside in closer quarters, or ouside in sunlight. Fauci says sunight disintegrates the covid19. Ive heard this for many months now. I think the same can be said of higher temperatures but not sure at what temp the virus will become to come apart.
yes, sunlight will kill a virus. That seems slightly off-topic.
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@ebuc
This is a claim which amounts to pure speculation which is indistinguishable from an opinion.
...."Cloth face coverings are
most likely [based on what?] - the masks cannot stop your contaminated breath. This is a verifiable scientific fact.
to reduce the spread of the COVID-19 virus when they are widely used by people in public settings.
And countries that required face masks, testing, isolation and social distancing early in the pandemic have successfully slowed the spread of the virus."
These same countries also closed restaurants and hotels and other non-essential meeting places like CHURCHES.
ISOLATION WILL STOP THE SPREAD OF A VIRUS.
The claim that the masks themselves stopped the spread of the virus is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
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@ebuc
CLAIM #1: Truth is, masks other N95 make a differrence
Any mask that is not airtight will NOT stop your 1 micron breath particles from infecting your fellow citizens.
CLAIM #2: as does social distancing.
Your infected 1 micron breath particles remain in the air for SEVERAL HOURS. It doesn't matter where you stand.
Are really going to continue to make baseless claims without presenting any evidence?
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@ebuc
FACT: IF YOUR MASK ISN'T AIRTIGHT, THEN YOUR CONTAMINATED BREATH STILL LINGERS IN THE AIR AROUND YOU FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
FACT: IF YOUR MASK DOESN'T BLOCK PARTICLES SMALLER THAN 1 MICRON, THEN YOUR CONTAMINATED BREATH STILL LINGERS IN THE AIR AROUND YOU FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
Please challenge my axioms and or point out a specific logical error and or provide a counter-factual.
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@Username
Socialists will, too, tell you that the state allowing megacorporations to dominate people and prices is not making anyone more free except for the higher-ups in said corporations.
THE CORPORATE MOBSTERS ARE PULLING THE STRINGS OF THE "POLITICIANS" (BOTH PARTIES).
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@Vader
MEANWHILE, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO STRIP OUR CIVIL RIGHTS.The left wants to give more power to the federal government
SO DOES THE RIGHT.
TRUMP SENT ANONYMOUS STORM TROOPERS INTO PORTLAND.
WATCH THIS VIDEO (only 45 seconds) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-CyQ9jtdg
POLICE, DRESSED IN BLACK, ARE ASSAULTING PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN HOMES.
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@Vader
You like Trump= racist, homophobeHold a Police Flag= racist, homophobeStand instead of Kneel= racist, homophobeNot Politically Active= racist, homophobe
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT AN AD HOMINEM ATTACK IS??
"Conservatives" have been arguing for years that if you're not a "christian" then you're automatically untrustworthy and EVIL.
"Conservatives" have been arguing for years that if you're poor, "IT'S YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT".
"Conservatives" have been arguing for years that EVERYONE IN PRISON DESERVES TO BE THERE.
And that last one's especially funny when you see this - - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTn1WPoZaVM&feature=youtu.be&t=25
"Conservatives" "objective moral values" are a JOKE.
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@Vader
Everyone wants power. It's about what they do with that power that matters
THEY ALL DO THE EXACT SAME THING.
THEY CONTINUOUSLY RAISE THE BARRIER TO ENTRY FOR THE ELITE CLUB.
THEY CONTINUOUSLY INCREASE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT POWER.
THEY CONTINUOUSLY STRIP THE POOR OF THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS.
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@Vader
The left weaponizes liberalism into attacking you for what you believe.
So does "the right".
Our OWNERS are very good at keeping the poor working-class people pitted against each other.
The poor lefties scream their heads off about how EVIL and STUPID conservatives are.
And the poor conservatives love to scream their heads off about how EVIL and STUPID the lefties are.
MEANWHILE, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO STRIP OUR CIVIL RIGHTS.
It doesn't matter who sits in the office.
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@Vader
The left weaponizes government as a mean to become authoritarian and gain power. The more power to individual states, the more freedom is happening. There are issues, but radical left policies will cause suffering for more people
"TWO PARTY" = ONE PARTY
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH "PARTY" IS IN POWER.
THEY BOTH WANT THE EXACT SAME THING, MORE POWER.
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@Username
Heirarchy is not a universal feature of politics.
WE MUST DEMAND HOLACRACY + RCV.
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@Tradesecret
The conservative rests his rights on the family - on individual private rights.
EVERYONE values (their own) FAMILY and (their own) "individual private rights".
The Progressive rests his rights on the society - public rights.
ONLY CORPORATIONS CARE ABOUT PUBLIC RIGHTS.
RICH PEOPLE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS-QUO.
POOR PEOPLE WANT TO FLIP THE TABLE AND TAKE THEIR CHANCES WITH SOMETHING NEW.
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@Tradesecret
Conservative politics at its extreme end is ultimately nationalistic.
How is this remotely "family focused"??
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@Tradesecret
The former value family over and above society. The latter value society over and above family.
All humans follow these three simple rules.
(1) PROTECT YOURSELF
(2) PROTECT YOUR FAMILY
(3) PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY
Any "political ideology" only serves to reinforce this primal hierarchy.
Suggesting that "liberals" don't value their own families is a ridiculously cartoonish straw-man.
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@Username
Most political ideologies could be described as a maximization of freedom depending on your worldview.
FREEDOM AND EQUALITY ARE INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL.
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@Greyparrot
preservation of freedoms from a tyrannical government
Please explain how "the conservatives" prevented The Patriot Act.
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@ebuc
It's just one more way of reducing your LIBERTY and reminding you they can FUCK with you anytime they want.
George Carlin explains in 6 minutes,
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@ebuc
Put on your mask. Now breathe normally. Place your hands at the sides of the mask. You will feel air passing unfiltered on both sides of your face. Every time you exhale, you are spreading germs and viruses in tiny water droplets about 1 micron in diameter. These infectious water droplets remain airborne for several hours. Even if you never sneeze or sniffle.
N95 MASKS HAVE A VALVE THAT ALLOWS UNFILTERED INFECTED EXHALED AIR TO PASS UNENCUMBERED. THESE N95 MASKS DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE.
LET'S REVIEW. A GOOD MASK WILL FILTER OUT 3 MICRON SIZED PARTICLES IFF IT IS FITTED AIRTIGHT ALL AROUND YOUR FACE. THE AVERAGE EXHALED WATER DROPLET IS ABOUT 1 MICRON.
TRY FINDING SOME FACTS THAT SUPPORT YOUR HYPOTHESIS.
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@ebuc
Try reading your own source material.
Surgical masks
Also called a medical mask, a surgical mask is a loose-fitting disposable mask that protects the wearer's nose and mouth from contact with droplets, splashes and sprays that may contain germs. A surgical mask also filters out large particles in the air. Surgical masks may protect others by reducing exposure to the saliva and respiratory secretions of the mask wearer.
At this time, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has not approved any type of surgical mask specifically for protection against the coronavirus, but these masks may provide some protection when N95 masks are not available.
The covid-19(84) virus is about 120 nanometers (0.12 microns) in diameter.
A surgical style mask will not reliably filter anything smaller than 3 microns.
Airborne water droplets average about 1 micron.
Notice how this article only details "N95" masks, and ignores the more common surgical style masks and random pieces of cloth "fashion masks".
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@ebuc
Says who? And why do you think its "beyond governement jurisdiction?
The First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” [LINK]
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@ebuc
Show me the data you have on the efficacy of the general public wearing random pieces of cloth over their faces.
Most of the spread is going to be on doorknobs and faucet handles and television remote controls, not from sneezing.
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@ebuc
Something is killing people, and a mask is not going to save you.
It's "security theater".
AND IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT JURISDICTION.
IN THE SAME WAY THEY CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES IN A NATURAL DISASTER.
THEY CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT MANDATORY =/= RECOMMENDATION.
AND,
You'll notice that masks may reduce the range of a sneeze, but thousands of virus particles bypass and penetrate the mask AND linger in the air for hours, regardless of whether you wear a mask or not.
And if you're not sneezing, it makes no difference.
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@BearMan
No, you get information from bogus anti-masker sites. You also make up quotes from your own head. Please do not associate my sources with yours.
Click to watch 46 seconds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-CyQ9jtdg
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@n8nrgmi
but so too should prolife people be quicker to support mask mandates.
AND CHURCH CLOSINGS.
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@MisterChris
Your right to do as you please ends when it impedes on others rights to life, liberty or pursuit of happiness. Not wearing a mask results in such an outcome, as does abortion.
Even before COVID-19(84) there has never been any shortage of infectious diseases (and or other "impediments to life").
Deadly diseases can spread anywhere on the planet at any time. The risk is never Zero. PPE and "social distancing" and the suspension of CHURCHES and other peaceful gatherings would be suspended FOREVER, according to your "impedes on others rights to life" STANDARD.
By purchasing avocados, you are contributing directly to regional warlords who kill countless innocents.
By purchasing diamonds, you are contributing directly to regional warlords who kill countless innocents.
By purchasing chocolate, you are contributing directly to regional warlords who kill countless innocents.
We routinely and habitually "impede on others rights to life, liberty and or pursuit of happiness".
This is nothing new.
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@Tradesecret
We are all owned by the STATE. We do what they say and we will continue to do so - because they tell us so. They own us. We have given them - not even sold them - just given our body to the STATE. And most of us don't even care. That is ok.
YES. WE ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. CIVIL RIGHTS ARE A LIE. PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE A LIE.
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@Tradesecret
I take the view that "my body, my choice" relies upon a fundamental private property right. It says I own my body. Which if anybody knows anything about property rights and the normal understanding of a bundle of rights - means that I have right to do with my body anyway I like, I can kill fetuses' in my body, I can kill myself. I can use my body like a prostitute - I can have sex whenever I want to - - typically however in economic thinking -and assuming our body is owned by us - is an economic principle - this would assume that we can destroy our own property, buy or sell it or transfer it.
The guiding principle here is INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY.
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@ebuc
3} a fetus is organism of the mother, so she chooses what to do with that organism, not you.
Well stated.
The guiding principle here is INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY.
Vaccine status is private personal medical information.
Medical prescription (of hydroxychloroquine and zinc) is private personal medical information.
Pregnancy status is private personal medical information.
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY TO MANDATE PPE OR CHURCH CLOSINGS OR ANY OTHER PEACEFUL PUBLIC GATHERING.
BEWARE OF ANY "TEMPORARY" "EMERGENCY" "POWERS" THAT VIOLATE YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS.
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