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@SkepticalOne
Plus, person or not, a zygote has no right to use the body of another against their will.
exactly
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@Polytheist-Witch
The adoption and foster care system is a mess.
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@TWS1405
Context matters.I live in the US, so I argue from the contextual standpoint of US laws, culture, etc. When it comes to laws, specifically, I only care about the laws that apply to the US. What applies elsewhere has no bearing or relevance to the US. So only US legal sources are valid to me. Not Canada's, Israel's, Sudan's, or anywhere else.
does this mean you automatically disqualify any opinions on the subject of abortion that are not purely and wholly generated from a citizen of the united states ?
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@TWS1405
I live in the US. Do not care about Canada's laws, or any other country for that matter.
what sources do you consider valid ?
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@TheUnderdog
Sterilization law is the area of law, within reproductive rights, that gives a person the right to choose or refuse reproductive sterilization and governs when the government may limit this fundamental right. Sterilization law includes federal and state constitutional law, statutory law, administrative law, and common law. This article primarily focuses on laws concerning compulsory sterilization that have not been repealed or abrogated and are still good laws, in whole or in part, in each jurisdiction. [**]
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@zedvictor4
What I refer to as selective morality.
a mouse is 97.5% genetically identical to a human
does this mean that mice should be granted 97.5% human rights ?
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@oromagi
Hunter Biden's laptop is a total nothingburger.Ignoring fake news is not a conspiracy.Ignoring fake news is not fraud.
was it a fake ?
was it "russian disinformation" ?
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@TWS1405
The law was adopted in Canada in 1948 because juries were refusing to convict mothers of murdering their own children.
Infanticide was introduced as an alternative charge with softer sentencing.
"The penalties usually aim towards supporting and assisting the mother as opposed to punishing her," Gordon said.
The maximum sentence for infanticide is five years, but no conviction in Canada has resulted in a jail term longer than one year.
"The penalties usually aim towards supporting and assisting the mother as opposed to punishing her," Gordon said.
The maximum sentence for infanticide is five years, but no conviction in Canada has resulted in a jail term longer than one year.
There is no minimum sentence. [**]
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@Double_R
The argument isn't that one right outweighs the other as if there was no surrounding context, the question is whether the fetus has the right to use the mother's body for it's own development against the mother's will.
well, there's that
AND A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO PRIVACY
In a 7-2 decision authored by Justice Douglas, the Court ruled that the Constitution did in fact protect the right of marital privacy against state restrictions [**]
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@TheUnderdog
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3211703 is the link that confirms 95% of biologists believe a zygote is a human being. If you have a different interpretation of what they said, let me know.
also, not a citizen
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@TheUnderdog
Don’t make virgins like me pay for the effects of your recreation with higher tax dollars and don’t force a kid to pay for your recreation with an abortion.
you'd save more money if you simply ended funding for public schools
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@TheUnderdog
some people also freak out about copyrighted images
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@TheUnderdog
I’m sick of my tax dollars going to fund other people’s kids
what percentage of your tax dollars are used to support poor children ?
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@Greyparrot
Rules for thee and not for me is the bread and butter of every Establishment sycophant.
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@Greyparrot
CDC admits it mishandled COVID pandemic
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@Greyparrot
i saw this story on jimmy dore and again on russell brand
but this sky news clip is priceless
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The trust lost is lost as far as this generation is concerned, that's how trust works; hard to gain and easy to lose. To avoid civil war the only course is divestment and unprecedented transparency.
Why Electronic Voting is a BAD Idea - Computerphile
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@TheUnderdog
Can you let us post images on here?
that opens a major can of worms
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@TWS1405
Abortion does NOT equal murder.
strangely, "infanticide" also does not equal "murder"
they are distinct legal charges
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@TheUnderdog
The government’s sole pourpose is regulation of its people. We are regulated so we can’t legally murder, rape, etc. Abortion is merely another regulation. But all regulations need justification. In the case of abortion, that justification is it kills an innocent human being. At least that’s what 95% of biologists believe.
everyone is a witness to the crime of assault
when will smith struck chris rock
but the simple fact that "a crime" occurred
does not mean that will smith MUST "go to jail"
only the party HARMED (chris rock) has LEGAL STANDING to press charges
and if the party HARMED cannot press charges, then their NEXT OF KIN can choose to press charges
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@TheUnderdog
the function of government is restricted to three categories
(1) dispute resolution between citizens
(2) making sure public spaces are safe for all citizens
(3) negotiating with foreign powers
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@Polytheist-Witch
See you should stick to your regular level of trolling.
there are a lot of statements that are not "lies" and also not "truth"
there are a lot of things that are not "flat" and also not "round"
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@Polytheist-Witch
Maybe if you'd asked me to define something or put a definition down it would have been more your style.
what is your personally preferred definition of "lie"
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@Polytheist-Witch
Maybe if you'd asked me to define something or put a definition down it would have been more your style.
what is your personally preferred definition of "not flat"
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@Polytheist-Witch
If you do not believe someone is lying then you believe they're telling the truth.
or they are mistaken
or misinformed
or stating their sincere opinion
or they perhaps misspoke
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@Polytheist-Witch
If you do not believe the world is flat then you believe the world is round.
or pear-shaped
or pie-shaped
or star-shaped
or helicopter-shaped
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@Public-Choice
So, therefore, how could atheism not be a belief?As per Cambridge Dictionary, belief is:"the feeling of being certain that something exists or is true." [1]
the definition of belief does not include "being certain that something DOES NOT exist or is NOT true"
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You have no idea about i vs e but sure preach more.
feel free to inject your own hypothesis
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@Greyparrot
keeping in mind that BOTH SIDES routinely erect barriers to entry for third partiesOr even within their own party. You don't think Biden had competition during the primary, do you?
just another good reason to eliminate "primaries" and replace them with RCV
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@Ramshutu
We are comparing the right and the left. As I keep pointing out, the way in which you are drawing that comparison is not to compare left and right - but to say the left has done bad things - and is thus just as bad ; that is not at all a reasonable basis for comparison, it’s not really a comparison at all.
i'm not sure if you're familiar with "the political compass"
it's interesting to note that almost everyone "on the left" and almost everyone "on the right" are all in the upper right quadrant
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@Greyparrot
keeping in mind that BOTH SIDES routinely erect barriers to entry for third partiesOr even within their own party. You don't think Biden had competition during the primary, do you?
bernie was pretty effectively torpedoed
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@SkepticalOne
by the government
exactly
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@PREZ-HILTON
What's more, even young black people who follow the rules and are never incarcerated are less likely than similar white people to accumulate wealth as they get older. As of 2012, the median household wealth of black participants in the study who had never been incarcerated at some point in their lives was $16,200. [**]
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@Intelligence_06
What exactly was the crucial difference between INTP and ENTP? I tend to get both of these periodically, sometimes even during adjacent tests done a few hours apart. I can't exactly say which one I am.More than that, how do we define extrovert/introvert qualities? For context, I am a dude who just doesn't actively go out for socialization, but can obviously have a very nice chat with most strangers in the first few hours upon meeting(I don't necessarily hate or like such interactions, the main benefit is that I get a friend).How do we measure it?
https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test - - this is a pretty good test, and doesn't make you sign-up for anything
it gives you some rough percentages - my guess is that you're near the 50% mark for "E" versus "I"
many INTPs find they adopt ENTP characteristics when they are confident in the subject matter under discussion, or if they feel comfortable, like when they are interacting with people they consider friends
i would say that the key division between "E" and "I" lies in your core worldview
if you believe one's self-worth is determined by internal factors (self-image), this makes you fundamentally an "I"
if you believe one's self-worth is determined by external factors (social status), this makes you fundamentally an "E"
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@Ramshutu
REPUBLICANS = CORPORATE GOONS
DEMOCRATS = SLIGHTLY NICER CORPORATE GOONS
it is difficult for me to ignore proposals to cut power and water to people's homes
The term “freedom of assembly” refers to the right of the people to peacefully organize without having to fear government interference. For example, freedom of assembly refers to an individual’s right to join a protest without having to fear the government shutting the protest down.
The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects individuals who wish to assemble in order to protest the actions of their government, so long as they do so in a peaceful manner. To explore this concept, consider the following freedom of assembly definition.
i'm not suggesting you should vote republican
i'm merely suggesting that you be very careful which specific democrats you decide to support
keeping in mind that BOTH SIDES routinely erect barriers to entry for third parties
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@oromagi
only a true genius disputes a source without disputing the facts
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Trump 'endorses' Dan Goldman, the lawyer who led his impeachment, amid a confounding string of Truth Social posts praising Democrats [**]
- Trump claimed to endorse Democratic Reps. Carolyn Maloney, Jerry Nadler, and Dan Goldman.
- Goldman, a lawyer who led Trump's first impeachment hearing, said Trump was "trying to meddle in an election."
- If the endorsements are intended to sour Democratic voters on the candidates, they're reminiscent of efforts by Democrats to meddle in the 2022 Republican primaries.
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@SkepticalOne
Secondly, an all-powerful, all knowing entity could never lose in a game of 'abortion whack-a-mole' unless that was his intent.
zoiks
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@FLRW
With over 700 quintillion planets in the universe, don't you think life was an accident? It has been shown that a pair of simple compounds, which would have been abundant on early Earth, can give rise to a network of simple reactions that produce the three major classes of biomolecules—nucleic acids, amino acids, and lipids—needed for the earliest form of life to get its start. Although the new work does not prove that this is how life started, it may eventually help explain one of the deepest mysteries in modern science.
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@zedvictor4
Such is human data transfer and conditioned resentment.
today, the german government will throw you in prison for three years simply for hanging a russian flag on your property
and you can't distinguish a photo of a russian from a photo of a german
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@Shila
Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
i am not afraid
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@Vici
From gamete fusion to birth, the zygote/embryo/foetus is naturally* reliant upon the host for survival.this implies that it is alive, if it needs somethign to survive.you are arguing with science
we know that living cells are "alive"
exactly the same way we know a living cow is "alive"
a mouse is 97.5% genetically identical to a human
does that mean that a mouse should get 97.5% "human rights" ?
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@Public-Choice
So, therefore, how could atheism not be a belief?
As per Cambridge Dictionary, belief is:
"the feeling of being certain that something exists or is true." [1]
ATHEISM = "NOT A THEIST"
IN THE EXACT SAME WAY
APOLITICAL = "NO POLITICAL AFFILIATION"
APOLITICAL != "ANTI-POLITICAL"
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@Solaris1
(1) PROTECT YOURSELF(2) PROTECT YOUR FAMILY(3) PROTECT YOUR PROPERTYWhat exactly is your point here?
this is the instinctive basis for human morality
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@Solaris1
Interesting. The reason I would disagree is that I never seen someone like that myselfI appreciate your input.
(1) PROTECT YOURSELF
(2) PROTECT YOUR FAMILY
(3) PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY
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@Athias
Under what criteria of proof is a claim expected to satisfy its burden of proof?
that is negotiated between the speaker (claimant) and the audience (recipient)
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@Athias
i disagreesimply because someone presents a claimthat does not magically transfer the burden-of-prooffrom the speaker to the recipientThat's not what I'm stating. You are under no burden to prove or disprove someone's claim; it is however incumbent upon you to delineate and justify your measures of proof especially if you're the one demanding proof. It would be like:You: Bigfoot has not been proven (is NOT fact; conclusive evidence has not been shared.)I: Demonstrate that which counts as proof/evidence and the reasons claims of Bigfoot's observation don't suffice.You: Proof/evidence exemplifies Logical necessity or Empirical Demonstration.I: What's the basis?(Presumption of ) You: That which is analytically and/or tautologically true; the scientific method, multiple independent review teams, and ideally a confidence of two sigma.AS OPPOSED TO:I: Bigfoot is fact.You: Bigfoot is not fact.I: Prove me wrong.You: I am under no obligation to prove you wrong.I: I win!The burden which befalls your affirmation isn't one which demands that it DISPROVES a preceding claim, only that you provide information and justification to the measures of proof to which you have subjected the argument, ABSENT of any presumed measures of proof.
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@Athias
If a claimant is to satisfy their onus--particularly an evidentiary burden--and you reject the claimant's claim as fact which naturally incorporates your criteria-it's being known to the claimant notwithstanding--does it not behoove you to explicitly state and justify said criteria, and by extension substantiate your rejection of the claim as fact?
ok, let me just say, you've really raised the bar here
i mean, i always enjoy our exchanges
but this one really takes-the-cake
does it not behoove you to explicitly state and justify said criteria,
IF AND ONLY IF i respect the individual demanding an explanation
in the same way, someone who is declined a job is not generally provided with, and is certainly not OWED "a reason why they were not hired"
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@Shila
Belief in Jesus in central to over 2 billion Christians. You cannot dismiss that for a pragmatic perspective.
believers think that "without a reverence for god and a fear of hellfire, there is no moral compass"
but this belief is demonstrably false
so, although they THINK "the jesus" informs their decision making
it has almost zero REAL influence
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