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my objective opinion 

Frankly the entire thing could be deescalated rather quickly if there was some devolution of federal power back to the states.

This is probably why [the united states government] don't give foreign aid to them lol....no corrupt people to purchase.

Soooo this makes Mexicans xenophobes ?

Well, there's school shootings I suppose.

Elitists looking down on middle America. What’s new?

because given the title of this thread it would be ironic if you were found to rejecting valid, factual data.

Why are you parsing criminality among demographics if the identifier you've chosen to create distinction, i.e. so-called "race," provides no particular qualification? 

Then what is your point?

Libertarians: Trust the government with spending billions of dollars on taxpayer money for nuclear power plants.

Me: So what’s your plan to pay off the debt?  If you eliminated all spending and all taxes (both nonstarters), the debt will still go up because of interest payments.

I'm not suggesting they will become reasonable, I'm saying Desantis will not have the ability to convince them that the sky is green the way Trump has. The thing about Trump is that they love him because he's one of them. He's a complete buffoon and an ignoramous, so when he says something stupid he gets away with it because that's already his brand and because he gives them validation. No other politician can pull that off. Desantis is too intelligent, so the level of stupidity that has to be achieved for him would come off as fake and disingenuous, the very thing Trump supporters love about him and the reason they let him get away with literally anything.

This isn't just a Desantis thing. Look around, every politician that tries to act like Trump comes off the same way, and none of them can gain any national appeal. Desantis is the closest thing, but his brand is still completely different.

So again, I'm not saying they won't vote for him, I'm just saying that he won't have the same kind of pscophantic support Trump did, which will be needed to accomplish what Trump couldn't.

I like them both, especially Desantis. He saved Florida from the destruction that so many other states suffered during the fear mongering Covid BS. Told all the would be tyrants to go fuck themselves. I like that.

have you considered running those same statistics specifically for "economic status" ?

How does economic status dictate moral content and responsibility?

What's the better alternative to an elected temporary government?

Are you saying that foreign aid should not buy foreign influence?

What nation is free from corruption?

• "With Europe and Africa increasingly split over the war in Ukraine, European diplomats have argued in a confidential report for a more “transactional” approach to foreign aid that would tie funding for African countries to their willingness to work “based on common values and a joint vision.”
  
• Some EU diplomats  suggest in one behind the scenes memo that some foreign aid should be linked to common values is a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, fucking way from "humanitarian aid will now be stripped"
  
• Why made you tell this lie?
  

all of these apply to your january sixth conspiracy theory

Give me one example.

This conversation is about what the term “conspiracy theory” *does* mean.

How is paying millions of dollars to destroy the opposition by getting radicals on the opposition voting ticket "caring about democracy?

Even CNN says this is evil.

“conspiracy theories in the colloquial sense are epitomized by certain errors of logic and futilely invalid processes of thinking; the expansion of the theory to include all evidence presented against it, the usage of argument from ignorance and argument from incredulity fallacies, the usage of the absence of evidence as evidence, and the refusal to provide a clear narrative instead pretending they’re “just asking questions” when it is clear they are making strong insinuations.”

We’re talking about what a word means. Guess how we figure that out? By looking at how other people use the word.

The facts indisputably show that Russia interfered with the 2016 election

Then you don’t live in reality. Of the two parties only one actually cares about democracy while the other is overtly hostile to it. No one with an IQ above room temperature would confuse which party is which.

Atheists are drinking the kool-aid if they think reality has no entity or machine at its core, whether we call it a god or not.

So to claim nothing can come from it is just a tautology.

Axiomatically reality has to have an immovable, irrevokable entity at its core.

the "burden-of-proof" is on the party making the claim

I’ve been preaching this for years, and nothing I’ve said here or anywhere in this site has suggested or implied otherwise.

exactly which part of this is your "strong defense" ?

The part where you apply what I said to the conversation. If you are unwilling to do that it’s not on me that you still don’t understand this.

in other words, what you personally consider "the colloquial sense"

No, it’s what the vast majority of society thinks it means:

Govt is for tyrants and the main tool of a tyrant.

The point of everything I said was that there is a big difference in what meets the technical definition of a conspiracy theory vs what people are actually talking about when they use the term in the colloquial sense.

Technically, any two people who commit a crime together is a conspiracy, so technically, anyone who makes the case for their guilt is engaging in a conspiracy theory.

But if you tell someone they are a conspiracy theorist that is not what any normal person understands the term to mean in our society.

As I already went through, conspiracy theories in the colloquial sense are epitomized by certain errors of logic and futilely invalid processes of thinking; the expansion of the theory to include all evidence presented against it, the usage of argument from ignorance and argument from incredulity fallacies, the usage of the absence of evidence as evidence, and the refusal to provide a clear narrative instead pretending they’re “just asking questions” when it is clear they are making strong insinuations.

That’s what the term “conspiracy theorist” points to. So unless you can show me how I’m guilty of these fallacies you can stop arguing that there is some validity to acting is if a standard police investigation is the same thing. It’s not.

rbelivb has no idea what he is talking about

I’ve challenged you multiple times to explain to me how anything I’ve argued meets my own colloquial definition. You have provided nothing.

how can anyone justify using the power of govt to push their political agendas

he just can reach that without allowing evil as he is omnipotent and omniscient.

But the OP didn’t say that

Blacks never had to invent or develop a great civilization

Once again, irrelevant. I am comparing the US as a whole to other countries as a whole.