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The assault weapon ban didn’t reduce the masa shooting rate
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@Kritikal
62% of "gun related violence" is suicide

so, "crime" isn't even the "biggest problem" on this topic

and if you want to "save lives" try raising the driving age to 25

or make speed limiters mandatory on all registered vehicles

the number one killer of infants and children and teens is automobile accidents (not "crime")
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@Kritikal
are you still discussing "mass public shootings" or have you moved to some other topic
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@Kritikal
Citizens have used guns to stop both mass shootings and crime in general[1].
10 out of 345 is not a great batting average
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Define a universe in your own words
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@ebuc
is multiverse scenario an infinite set?
an incomprehensible, yet NOT "infinite" set
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More Tolerance From The Religion Of Peace
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@Stephen
I forced you into nothing.
well stated
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Universal Background Checks
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@Stephen
if you have to coerce children to take up arms to defend the oligarchy, then you're already lost
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Universal Background Checks
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@Stephen
ntal consent) for male and female voluntary service; no conscription  (currently inactive, but males aged 18-25 must register with Selective Service in case conscription is re
you're conflating "IS" with "OUGHT"
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@Stephen
not all muslims are outraged

christians have killed just as many people (and probably more) than muslims have killed
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Universal Background Checks
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@FLRW
Initially, Black soldiers were restricted to “labor units,” but this too ended as the war progressed, when they were finally used in combat.
phenomenal reporting
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@Stephen
there is a reason automobile insurance companies lower fees for people when they turn 25

we do NOT need 18 year old soldiers
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@Stephen
" does this mean we will be raising the age of conscription to the age of 21 too"
great idea
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Atheists are cowards.
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@Polytheist-Witch
LOL. Do you really not know who that is and that they're being satirical yet insulting?
who is it ?
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Pronouns
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@Athias
One only has "free speech" on one's own property.
some corporations will fire you for posting pictures of yourself using a competitor's product

this is not a joke
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@RationalMadman
(ironic that is it predominantly the right wing conservatives are worries about Islam spreading and influencing the West, when Islam is a greater enemy of the left wing, liberal agenda)
great point
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@rbelivb
However, based on your position, it should apply not only in this case. For example, imagine that a teacher has a female student that he doesn't like. This student was born female, and is not trans, but is slightly overweight and has some masculine features that she is embarrassed about. The teacher decides to disrespect her by referring to her as male throughout the class, even after she politely asks him not to. Would you maintain your position that this decision is totally up to the teacher's discretion, and that the teacher has no obligation to "indulge" the girl's request to be referred to as female?
great example
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@BrotherD.Thomas
would you call yourself an "atheist" ?
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Define a universe in your own words
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@Conservallectual
there is the "known universe" (phaneron)

there is the "unknown (but knowable) universe" (Mysterium Invisus)

there is the "unknown (and unknowable) universe" (Magnum Mysterium aka NOUMENON)

there is a not-impossible "multiverse"

and an "omniverse" which would include all conceivable "multiverses" (including known, knowable, and unknowable)
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@Kritikal
often times because they are abruptly stopped by someone else with a gun. 
more specifically a police officer with a gun
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@Stephen
I was asked by moderation if I would  agree to a RO with the Witch. And I did.
this is an example of excessive use of mod resources
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@sadolite
An armed society is a polite society
false
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@Kritikal
norway has an estimated population of 5 million

this is comparable to states like wisconsin, colorado, minnesota, south carolina, and alabama [**]

wisconsin reports 6 mass shootings this year [2022]

colorado reports 6 mass shootings this year [2022]

minnesota reports 3 mass shootings this year [2022]

south carolina reports 12 mass shootings this year [2022]

alabama reports 9 mass shootings this year [2022]

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@Kritikal
which would confirm my point on Norway
how many mass shootings has norway reported since 2011 ?
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PROPOSAL TO END ALL MODERATION "PROBLEMS"
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@Polytheist-Witch
the mods could make an OPTIONAL moderator-muted-list of users they deemed "inappropriate" so they would be invisible to the public and also invisible to all site members - UNLESS - site members un-checked the OPTIONAL moderator-muted-list
i don't see any mention of adding you and rm to this OPTIONAL list

i also don't see any mention of this OPTIONAL list being "secret"
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@Polytheist-Witch
the mods could make an OPTIONAL moderator-muted-list of users they deemed "inappropriate" so they would be invisible to the public and also invisible to all site members - UNLESS - site members un-checked the OPTIONAL moderator-muted-list
instead of what they currently do with "inappropriate" users (which is perma-ban them)
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@Polytheist-Witch
There will several other people suggest to be on the list as well wasn't just me and RM.
i have always been against banning users and censorship generally

i have never personally blocked anyone and do not ever plan to block anyone
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@Polytheist-Witch
It was basically a list of members disliked or mods hate.
false
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@Polytheist-Witch
It was also discussed that this list would be secret and that we would just have to figure out that's what was going on.
false
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@Polytheist-Witch
both me and RM were to definitely be on that list
false
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@Polytheist-Witch
And you told me I was 100% false, little liar.
i never once proposed a "super-secret-shadow-ban"

the mod mute would be an alternative to the current "perma-ban"

the user would be notified exactly the same as they are currently notified of moderator actions that affect them
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@Stephen
there is currently a very complicated process used by the mods that is some sort of "mutual restraining order"
Then why are you even suggesting blind posting if that in your opinion is enough?
the enforcement and maintenance of the current "mutual restraining order" is inconsistent and consumes a disproportionate amount of mod resources
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@RationalMadman
I don't think I ever said I'd use blocking as much if it disallowed communication entirely to the point we can't read each other's posts. 
what utility do you find in the current block function ?
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@Athias
Discipulus_Didicit
good point

that was a proposed as an alternative to "perma-ban"
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@Kritikal
Norway has by far the highest mass shooting rate per capita out of any country, and it has gun laws that are stricter than in the US. You can only legally get a gun for hunting  or for sport shooting. Only 9% of the population owns a gun, but in the US there are more guns than people.
there have been over 246 public shootings in the usa this year [2022]


there have been 0 mass shootings in norway for the past 10 years

Typical (Median) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

  1. United States — 0.058
  2. Albania — 0
  3. Austria — 0
  4. Belgium — 0
  5. Czech Republic — 0
  6. Finland — 0
  7. France — 0
  8. Germany — 0
  9. Italy — 0
  10. Macedonia — 0
  11. Netherlands — 0
  12. Norway — 0
  13. Russia — 0
  14. Serbia — 0
  15. Slovakia — 0
  16. Switzerland — 0
  17. United Kingdom — 0
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@Stephen
" does this mean we will be raising the age of conscription to the age of 21 too"?
fantastic idea
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Grooming and CRT.
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@Double_R
Never ceases to amaze me how right wingers think teachers cannot be trusted to teach, but should be trusted to arm themselves and stop mass shooters.
they also seem to ignore the fact that most teachers don't wish to carry a firearm with the understanding that they should be prepared to "shoot to kill" at all times
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@Stephen
there is currently a very complicated process used by the mods that is some sort of "mutual restraining order"

that has been implemented upon two members who insist on harassing each other

this type of mod action is very time consuming and difficult to police

AS AN ALTERNATIVE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ZERO MOD ATTENTION

i proposed a "mutual-mute" that could be initiated by EITHER PARTY

specifically

poly seems to enjoy interacting with SOME members but despises SOME other members

the proposed "mutual-mute" would allow someone who feels this way, to "keep the good" and "throw out the bad"

basically insuring that their reading experience will never again be sullied by interjections from "bad" members

and at the same time, knowing their own words will not be scrutinized by those who have been determined (by themselves) to argue in "bad faith"

knowing that your words will not be seen by your detractors and you will not see the words of your detractors DISINCENTIVIZES "harassing language" on both sides
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@Stephen
excellent reporting
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@Polytheist-Witch
There were two proposals.
now we're getting somewhere
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@Polytheist-Witch
Hate is not a COC rule.

Unwarranted systemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, are subject to disciplinary actions.
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@Polytheist-Witch
i never suggested "you lied"

i merely pointed out that your impressions of my proposal are inaccurate 
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@Stephen
What you appear to be advocating is for those that block other members should be allowed to put in print anything about anyone they don't agree with or simply outright hate and make unsupported claims about anything  while displaying out-right double standards and  allowing intentional misquotation and misrepresentation  while not allowing the blocked member any sort of response.
all comments will still be visible by the moderators and subject to the code of conduct
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@Stephen
Now take a good look at that and tell me, would you have ever had a chance to dispute, deny and or correct what the Witch had to say had she had YOU on blind block where YOU were unable to see and read her  " 100% false claims" ? 
and that's fine by me
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DDO is shutting down
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@USBurning
A full site back-up with graphics was unfortunately not possible. All the information is unformatted text in html files.
impressive
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@Stephen
As I have said, those that decide to block other members because of something they have "written in stone" and disagree with should be the very same people that have no direct contact with those they have decided to block.       After all, they are the ones that have taken offence and offence has to be taken doesn't it?:  there is a choice involved.
I AGREE
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@Stephen
What you appear to be advocating is for those that block other members should be allowed to put in print anything about anyone they don't agree with or simply outright hate and make unsupported claims about anything  while displaying out-right double standards and  allowing intentional misquotation and misrepresentation  while not allowing the blocked member any sort of response.
what you're describing already happens in the private chat function

are you suggesting we remove the private chat function ?
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@Stephen
But we are speaking of the written word, 3RU7AL . If one decides to put their thoughts down in writing on a public forum on the WWW then it is they that engrave their own thoughts and words in stone.
The right to be forgotten (RTBF[1]) is the right to have private information about a person be removed from Internet searches and other directories under some circumstances. The concept has been discussed and put into practice in several jurisdictions, including Argentina,[2][3] the European Union (EU), and the Philippines.[4] The issue has arisen from desires of individuals to "determine the development of their life in an autonomous way, without being perpetually or periodically stigmatized as a consequence of a specific action performed in the past."[5]: 231 
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@Polytheist-Witch
I never found the original post but I did find where it was discussed.  3RU7AL suggested it would be easy to do a list of banned members, both me and RM were to definitely be on that list, where we would be basically blocked no one could see our post and that in order for people to see those posts they'd have to opt out.  It was also discussed that this list would be secret and that we would just have to figure out that's what was going on. It was basically a list of members disliked or mods hate.  As long as the mods are going to allow people to make disgusting comments then I'm going to use the block function especially so I don't get messages from those people. That said those functions only work when you're logged in anyway log out and you can see everything.
100% FALSE
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@Ultramaga
There are a lot of people that changed their stance on bodily autonomy when it came to masks and vaccines  based on the lie that it would save lives.
100% THIS
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@Stephen
not every person here is ready to have their thoughts engraved in stone
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@Stephen
That would be unfair imo.
here's the thing

each author owns their words

if i don't want a particular person reading my words

i should be able to block that specific person from reading my words

nobody has "a right" to read every single one of my words
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