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@Kritikal
and (b) do not think that changing our society to accommodate transgenderism is good.
what exactly needs to change ?
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@Kritikal
I am perfectly willing to condemn all premarital sex.
but are you willing to outlaw premarital sex ?
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@Kritikal
and the expected result happened when a trans man raped a girl.
did this policy affect the average number of assaults reported in any statistically significant way ?
people have been assaulted in restrooms for centuries
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@Kritikal
This just means that conservatives are wrong about this persons gender. In their best estimate, this person is actually a man. They still value biology more than gender identity.
they care not for "the truth" but merely wish to FORCE THEIR PERSONAL PERCEPTIONS on everyone else
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
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@Bones
I'll say what I said before, and that is oughtn't it be the priority of society to first what is most accurate and then act in accordance with it?
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
some things are PROVABLY TRUE
some things are PROVABLY FALSE
these two categories cover less than 1% of human knowledge
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@ebuc
There are limits to what can exist.
in our observable universe
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@ebuc
that Gravity doesnt stop woring just because Dark Energy is also working.
when two forces oppose, if one force is stronger than the other, the stronger of the two forces effectively CANCELS the weaker force
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@PREZ-HILTON
strangely, SOCIAL CONVENTIONS have always been a MOB RULE kinda situation
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@rbelivb
It benefits the conservative side of this to focus on these problems as unsurpassable contradictions, however it is entirely possible to resolve them in a relatively straightforward and pragmatic way,
simply impose weight classes (like in boxing and wrestling) instead of dividing sports by gender in the first place
and as far as bathrooms, as long as the individual is not actually committing an actual crime (like assault or "indecent exposure") then who the fuck cares what they look like naked, everyone is already in a goddamned privacy stall for christ sake
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@Kritikal
both sides are doing thisI disagree, conservatives put a far higher value on the biological sex of an individual rather than their perceived gender. This is why they believe that males should compete in male sports regardless of their perceived gender, and hold other such beliefs that are tied directly to sex and not to a social perception of gender.
i personally know females who are commonly mistaken for males
and it's ALWAYS the "conservatives" who complain that they use the female public washroom
this proves that "conservatives" are more interested in their own PERCEPTION OF OTHER PEOPLE'S GENDER than "the reality of the situation"
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
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@PREZ-HILTON
The truth is there are a lot of women who are offended by the tranny black facing their gender. They are called TERFs. They are also 100% correct and persecuted for wrong think
these are clearly in the minority
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@PREZ-HILTON
Are you trying to say blackface is wrong merely because it pisses people off?
do you have some sort of counter-argument perhaps ?
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@Bones
Why refer to someone as "she" if the totality of their biology correlates with male?
there are women who are "biologically female" and still look very much like men and are commonly mistaken for men
there are men who are "biologically male" and still look very much like women and are commonly mistaken for women
you can't really know
unless you get a biopsy and conduct a strip search
BUT THIS REALLY REALLY REALLY BEGS THE QUESTION OF WHY YOU THINK ANY OF THIS IS "IMPORTANT"
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@PREZ-HILTON
If I had say a hero that was black and I tried to look like him many would be offended. Being a tranny is basically the blackface of gender
do you have any examples of large numbers of women being outraged that some men wear skirts ?
or are you saying that you, personally, are outraged
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@Reece101
The universe isn’t uniformed when it comes to its expansion. Some parts of the universe are expanding faster than others. There’s been some new research circling around recently that the universe might be gradually slowing down. Though I’m not sure
ok, good to know
however, regardless of whether or not our own observable universe appears to be expanding or contracting
there are a lot of other things (including pocket-multiverses) that could very well be beyond our extremely limited scope of observation
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@PREZ-HILTON
Not really, and it's just as offensive as wearing blackface.
please explain
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@Kritikal
but one side puts a perceived gender identity over biology.
both sides are doing this
but only one side is honest about it
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@Bones
But the "underlying biological fact" is seldom acknowledged by gender ideologists.
why do you need "acknowledgement" of such a thing ?
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@ebuc
No where have I ever seen evidence by scientist that Dark Energy in our alledged local/pocket universe keeps Gravity from not having mass-attraction everywhere.
Observations show that the expansion of the universe is accelerating, such that the velocity at which a distant galaxy recedes from the observer is continuously increasing with time.[1][2][3] The accelerated expansion of the universe was discovered during 1998 by two independent projects, the Supernova Cosmology Project and the High-Z Supernova Search Team, which both used distant type Ia supernovae to measure the acceleration.[4][5][6]
and for the rest of your "objections"
the "unknown" is "unknown" and not necessarily similar to what you currently know
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@BrotherD.Thomas
TRUE Christianity states that ALL witches are to be killed
but how do you know which are the REAL witches and which are the fakes ?
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@rbelivb
they are "deluded" about an underlying reality
this really (really, really) begs the question of "why is it so important to know what someone looks like naked" ?
this is such a non-issue
ESTJ needs to figure out that the entire world does not see everything through their ESTJ eyes
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@rbelivb
Nobody, on any side of this debate is at all confused about the biological differences between a trans person and non-trans,
some people insist that both michelle obama and angela merkel are trans-men
and these people mostly identify as "conservative"
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
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@zedvictor4
No, God has always existed.So you can unequivocally prove this then?
there is a logical necessity for some "first-cause"
some call this "god"
but which "god(s) and or goddess(es)"
the logical necessity for some "first-cause" does NOT draw a straight line to "YHWH" (or any other specific "intelligent" "entity")
in all likelihood, the logically necessary "first-cause" is about as "intelligent" as the sun (or gravity)
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@Stephen
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
it kinda puts a different spin on the whole thing when you realize they were mostly just homeless people
a lot like this,
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@cristo71
Handguns already have an age 21 minimum.
good to know, funny how this doesn't seem to get mentioned in "the news"
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@Lemming
Cause and factor, aren't quite the same.
exactly
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@Stephen
many "witches" were homeless beggar women who would "put a curse on you" if you refused to help them
The tiny town of Ellwangen, Germany, burned 393 witches from 1611 to 1618, more than Spain and Portugal combined ever executed. The Catholic prince-bishop of Würzburg, Germany, burned 600 witches from 1628 to 1631, more witches than ever died in Protestant Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Iceland combined. [**]
A Saudi woman, Amina bin Salem Nasser, was executed for being convicted of practicing sorcery and witchcraft in December 2011 in Al Jawf Region, and a Sudanese man (Abdul Hamid Bin Hussain Bin Moustafa al-Fakki) was executed in a car park in Medina for the same reason in 20 September 2011. [**]
also,
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@jamezrevenge
hello whats up
welcome to the neighborhood
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@jamezrevenge
debate
let's hash out the details in the forums first
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@whiteflame
We've discussed this before and it is not against any site rules for one profile to use another profile's picture, regardless of content. You're demanding that we add rules that don't exist and enforce them. That's not going to happen. If you want to push a referendum about it to change the rules, go for it.
well stated
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@jamezrevenge
pro
what kind of gun control measures are you in favor of ?
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@ebuc
How is it all of your multiverses are not gravitationally attracted to each other, ergo isolated as you stated, if ?I recall correctly
vast distances of "empty space" have a (demonstrable) net repulsive effect that not only "counter-balances" gravity, but outstrips it
this is why our own observable universe (cosmos) is continuously expanding at an accelerating rate with no signs of slowing down
also, gravity is not necessarily a component of these other pocket-universes
not all pocket-universes are necessarily "occupied" and may bear little to no resemblance to our own known-universe
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@ebuc
There is no limit to gravity's mass-attractive effects.
perhaps you are unfamiliar with the cosmological constant (dark energy)
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@jamezrevenge
what is your position on "gun control" ?
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@ebuc
they may be discrete" Discrete " wholistic Universe? Clarify please
each "pocket universe" may be wholly isolated
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@Greyparrot
i'm simply pointing out factsYou mean trivia.
refined sugar kills more people than guns and drugs combined
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@Greyparrot
For what purpose? To what end?
i'm not in favor of banning all guns
i'm simply pointing out facts
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@jamezrevenge
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@Greyparrot
All I am saying is that eliminating guns won't save these kids.
statistically it does "save kids" (increasing the driving age to 25 and making speed limiters mandatory would also "save kids")
Plus, the removal of the 2nd amendment will most certainly allow the government to become authoritarian with zero pushback. The country is already fed up about the loss of standard of living in 2022. Imagine if elections were not allowed to remove the people that caused it.
i agree
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@Greyparrot
bought $1 worth of gasoline.
great points
however,
Apr 27, 2022 — For years, car accidents were the leading cause of death for kids and teens, but gun violence increased across the country in 2020.
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@Kritikal
I see no problem with spped limiters, there is no good reason to go 150 mph.
well stated
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@Greyparrot
Tell that to the parents of the dead kids (who died in automobile "accidents") about "failure"
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@Bones
do societal conventions trump truth?
some things are PROVABLY TRUE
some things are PROVABLY FALSE
these two categories cover less than 1% of human knowledge
everything else (including one's own gender) is a matter of OPINION
(It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.)
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@Double_R
Uvalde had armed guards on site who engaged with the shooter, that failed. Parkland had armed officers on duty, that failed as well.
exactly
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@coal
The essential problem with so-called gun control regulation is that, counterintuitively, such policies do not control guns. These policies control people, only in cohorts inclined to follow the law (however idiotic or ill advised the law may be). Among cohorts not so inclined, these policies have no effect whatsoever.
you might want to take a look at UK gun related deaths
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@RationalMadman
Taoism and Buddhism teach to readily let go of attachments and continually adapt with the flow of life.
well stated
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@jamezrevenge
whats up. im sad because i can't debate anymore on ddo
you're in the right place
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@ebuc
The union of local universes as Universe ergo has a wholistic integrity.
they may be discrete
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@Kritikal
Suicides are not caused by guns
war is also not caused by guns
crime is also not caused by guns
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@Kritikal
new drivers get into more crashes is mainly becasue they are inexperienced.
teen drivers are just as safe as the general population (statistically speaking) iff they are driving alone
the majority of automobile related deaths involve a driver under the age of 25 with passengers (distracting the driver and or encouraging them to "show off")
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