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@zedvictor4
when is a part, fictional/simulated or otherwise, not a fact?
some things are PROVABLY TRUE
some things are PROVABLY FALSE
these two categories cover less than 1% of human knowledge
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@zedvictor4
when is a part, fictional/simulated or otherwise, not a fact?
imagine the difference between "concrete nouns" and "abstract nouns"
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@Athias
"freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom from social consequences"
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@Bones
I am saying that, on balance, in almost every single case, men carry the characteristics of men and women carry the characteristics of women,
and i'm saying that you don't know how often you're wrong
because of sample-bias
many older (and or taller and or overweight and or muscular) women (who are born as women and also identify as women) can be routinely mistaken for men and face repeated harassment in public restrooms
HOW ARE THE COPS GOING TO KNOW WHAT GENDER SOMEONE IS WITHOUT A STRIP SEARCH AND A MICROSCOPE ??
when you propose a law, that law must be enforceable without violating the rights of innocent citizens
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@Athias
The dissolution of an association, even unilateral and particularly absent of duress, doesn't qualify the prerogative of which I spoke.
we do not appear to be in disagreement on these points
(IFF) you believe it is UNFAIR for an employer to fire someone for NON-WORK-RELATED activities (THEN) either join or form a labor union
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@Athias
Walking-out is a response, not an interference. The employer can still incur the costs of hiring replacements.
the cost of hiring replacements is unlikely to be unconsidered (aka "on a whim")
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@Athias
In the context of this discussion, yes. And you responded that this was exempted by "labor union negotiations." What did you mean by this?
iff a labor union negotiates to support its individual members (with a credible threat of a walk-out), specifically to protect individual members from being fired "without cause"
then the labor union members' "right to free association" interferes with the business owner's ability to "fire employees on a whim" ("right to free association")
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@Athias
that unions have neither historically, nor currently practiced free association. And your statement is an allusion to this.
apparently we need to figure out what specifically you mean by "free association"
because i thought you meant it as "freedom to fire anyone at any time and for any (non)reason"
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@Castin
Tribalism is just how our brains work. The brain always calculates what is best for survival before it calculates what is best independently of survival. This means "What would my tribe say about this?" comes before "What would I think about this if I had no tribe?"
great point
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@Greyparrot
Thankfully the USA is a Republic.
which is mob rule with extra steps
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@Outplayz
but if by the same measure, mass shootings / killings sharply decrease, i would say it's a net benefit.
62% of gun related deaths are suicides
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@Kritikal
And no, I don't see why we can't keep men out of the woman's bathroom and vice versa, we have done it for as long as we have had bathrooms.
this claim is demonstrably false
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@Kritikal
When you ask people to agree on basic reality
you're asking everyone to agree to the same ontology
which would obliterate all religions
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@Bones
Yes but you cannot contend that 99.9 percent of people can identify with 99.9 percent accuracy the populations sex without genitals.
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@Kritikal
The wave form potential is still a thing with or without us,
the amorphous quantum blob "exists"
but not the specific object and or event
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@Bones
I don't need to look at genitals to distinguish between men and women - they have very different facial constructions e.g
do you even know what sample bias is ?
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@Bones
I don't get what the point is. Do you think it is an epistemic limit to differentiate between men and women?
yes.
there very obviously is.
you don't know what someone looks like naked.
you suffer from sample bias.
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@Kritikal
I think that asking people to agree on epistemological limits is quite different than basic reality.
epistemological limits ARE "basic reality"
you don't know what i look like naked
there is a limit to your knowledge
you can call the cops on the 60 year old female with a mustache who enters the women's restroom
what is the cop supposed to do ?
strip-search the poor lady ?
to deny that your perception might be inaccurate is the most basic mistake
epistemological limits are NOT COMPLICATED
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@Kritikal
the unobserved universe is literally a blob of quantum-wave-form POTENTIAL (with no particles)
How the Quantum Eraser Rewrites the Past
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@Reece101
Stimuli; an energetic reaction.Yes, everything is conscious. Just to various extents by what we value as “aware”.Spread the good word.
you're going to love this,
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@zedvictor4
Ergo cogito, ergo omnia sunt.
dubito ergo cogito ergo sum
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@Kritikal
The universe is the physical stuff that actually exists whether we are there or not, and when we observe reality and give it meaning that is the stuff that is outside of the universe.
you're going to love this,
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@TheUnderdog
Would you say that sexual orientation is also medical privacy?
whether you prefer blondes or brunettes is not a medical emergency
Would you say transgender status is also a protected identity?
honestly, i can't figure out why the state ever needs to know and or keep records of what i look like nekid
Transgenders want to hide the fact they are trans, unless at protests (the unvaccinated have no problem showing off their status at protests.).
they wouldn't be protesting if everyone just took them at their own word, it's extremely difficult to understand how it's anyone's business what clothes someone chooses to wear and what name they want to be called
If an unvaccinated person outed themselves, the right still wouldn’t want them fired.
in the same way the left doesn't want someone fired because they have aids
Would you apply that same treatment to transgenders? If the left backed equality for the unvaccinated and the right backed discipline with vaccine mandates (and cited biblical verses to justify this), would you change your opinion with the parties? I think most people would, and it’s why most people are partisan hacks.
uh, no
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@RationalMadman
they encourage feminine males and masculine females to not deny their biology.
i thought "denying their biology" was the whole point
along with the right to call themselves whatever they want to call themselves
the right to "self-definition" and "self-ownership" and "medical privacy"
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@Kritikal
"Willfully and repeatedly fail to use a resident’s preferred name or pronouns after being clearly informed of the preferred name or pronouns."
first of all, this type of law is ridiculous (and should be abolished)
second of all, does this law restrict your personal behavior ?
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@Kritikal
Ideally everyone can agree on basic reality.
ideally everyone can agree on epistemological limits
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@Athias
Employment is an association where one purchases labor, and one sells it. It's one's prerogative to end any association for whatever reasons suits him or her. Current employment regulations don't encapsulate free association, especially Unions.
FREEDOM to talk about walking-out
does NOT violate any "freemarketprinciples"
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@RationalMadman
They see trans men as partly caving into patriarchy.
zoiks
what happened to "born this way"
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@Kritikal
We need to change our use of pronouns for one. We need to change our view of reality.
human culture and language evolves over time
individual perceptions of "reality" also evolve over time (unless of course you lose the ability to form new long-term memories)
you are free to call anyone anything you wish, nobody is "forcing" you to "conform"
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@RationalMadman
What TERFs are sick of is these trans women counting as cis women for affirmative action statistics,
great point
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@Athias
That's their prerogative, no matter how asinine others might find their decisions.
the exception to this "rule of whim" would be labor union negotiations
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@PREZ-HILTON
Data from an industry report revealed that the most dangerous countries for journalists in the last five years were Mexico and Afghanistan, with 47 journalists killed in each country respectively from 2016 to 2021. Working in Syria also carried considerable risk for journalists during that time period with 42 journalists killed there. [**]
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@PREZ-HILTON
What are you even trying to argue with me about? Would you like to debate my initial claim that the Chinese Communist party is an oppressive regime?
america and europe are eager to imitate chinese policy
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@PREZ-HILTON
america and china have roughly the same safety ranking
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@PREZ-HILTON
A government particularly one that illegally siezed power
is there even a single country on earth that was not at some point conquered ?
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@PREZ-HILTON
However in America we have freedom. You are safe here and in fact welcome
The top 10 safest countries in the world are as follows:
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@PREZ-HILTON
If you loved China you would oppose the CCP
please explain what you mean by "china"
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@Dr.Franklin
There was a time when Christians were as steadfast in defending their faith as Muslims.
At the beginning of the 20th century, approximately one-sixth of the population of the United States was Roman Catholic.[44] Anti-Catholicism was widespread in the 1920s; anti-Catholics, including the Ku Klux Klan, believed that Catholicism was incompatible with democracy and that parochial schools encouraged separatism and kept Catholics from becoming loyal Americans. [**]
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@TheUnderdog
The right thinks you should not be allowed to fire someone for being unvaccinated.
technically, each individual's medical status should be protected by medical privacy
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@ebuc
I did not say anything about unknowable.
that's the problem
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@ebuc
Yes distance exists between any two
what is the "distance" between the first and second dimensions ?
what is the "distance" between the second and third dimensions ?
what is the "distance" between the third and forth dimensions ?
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@ebuc
Cold slow metabolic processes tho, and there may exist many examples of
do you understand that matter dissolves over time ?
matter emits energy
matter is energy
all matter will eventually evaporate
even black holes will evaporate (hawking radiation)
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@TheUnderdog
Why do most people I come across either agree with the left on all of these issues or agree with the right on all these issues? Why are there few people that look at each issue individually? Is it because people are partisan hacks?
most people don't even know what the (constantly evolving) "100% official party-line" is on "all issues" and merely cherry-pick one or two items that seem "important" to them personally when "choosing" one of the two "major" sides
that's just one reason i encourage people to take the "political compass" test, to see if what they think they agree with actually matches the platform they think they "mostly" agree with
for example, obama, biden, trump, bush are ALL in the top right quad [**]
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@ebuc
ALSO,
what makes you think "darkenergy" will "expire" "before" "gravity" ?
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@ebuc
for example, there is recent speculation that a "black hole" may be an entirely surface phenomenon
with technically "nothing" "inside"
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@ebuc
no distance limites
distance is a function of "spacetimespace"
which may or may not "exist" "between" "pocket-multiverses"
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@ebuc
regarding multiverses all be connected by Gravity
what makes you think that the "space" "between" "pocket-multiverses" is able to transmit gravity (which apparently is a function of "spacetimespace"
AND,
even if your hypothesis is correct
what makes you think that "darkenergy" will not cancel out the "gravity" "between" "pocket-multiverses" ?
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
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@Kritikal
Yes, considering the small sample size.
i'm asking about the city crime statistics
Regardless the individual event happened only because of this policy, and it would not have happened otherwise.
you have no way of knowing this
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