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@sadolite
Those are all quantifiable facts right?
not even close
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@sadolite
There are no concentration camps for people who did nothing wrong anywhere in the world.
Regrettably, another present-day concentration camp set up by pro-Russian separatists in the east of Ukraine, in the city of Donetsk, is no exception in this respect. I know it well from my personal experience: I was a prisoner in Izolyatsiya for over two years.
Izolyatsiya (Isolation) is the name of a secret prison run by the so-called State Security Ministry (SSM) of the unrecognized, self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR). It is there that a great number of war crimes against people in custody are being perpetrated. I spent two and a half years in this prison after being captured as a result of my journalist work on the separatist-controlled territory. While there, I witnessed tortures and dehumanization by SSM staff, and was on the receiving end of these crimes against humanity. [**]
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@oromagi
"Should we put the unvaccinated in concentration camps?" No, we should people who live on welfare, commit crimes and fraud, molest children and commit rape in concentration camps.
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@sadolite
perhaps your ad hominem attacks are not your most persuasive tactic
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@sadolite
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@sadolite
Outside of hard science where shit either works or it doesn't, I would agree that facts are just feelings and opinions of what people want to believe is true.
facts must be quantifiable and or logically necessary
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@sadolite
No, Are you a Fascist Nazi?
there are quite a few examples of people who erased events from their history books
it doesn't seem to work out so well
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@sadolite
Why is history even taught anymore/ The only thing that history teaches is that nothing is learned from it.
are you amish ?
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@sadolite
it's an exploration
what do you think the world would be like if your plan was taken seriously ?
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@sadolite
"Should we put the unvaccinated in concentration camps?" No, we should people who live on welfare, commit crimes and fraud, molest children and commit rape in concentration camps.
it's an exploration of what the world would be like if we put "people who live on welfare, commit crimes and fraud, molest children and commit rape in concentration camps."
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@949havoc
But free will has been what it is for thousands of years.
just like several other religions and superstitions
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@secularmerlin
If any action has a cause then it is deterministic. Determinism is not freewill.If any action has no cause (undetermined) then it is indistinguishable from random. Random occurrences are not freewill.No clever mix of caused and uncashed leads to freewill.Freewill is logically incoherent.
case closed
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@Discipulus_Didicit
It is apparently the case that determinism is closely associated by a lot of people with the ability to make predictions about human choices. I am curious what people that actually think determinism is probably correct think about this.
DETERMINISM IS FUNCTIONALLY INDISTIGUISHABLE FROM INDETERMINISM
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@sadolite
"Should we put the unvaccinated in concentration camps?" No, we should people who live on welfare, commit crimes and fraud, molest children and commit rape in concentration camps.
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@FLRW
something that is true
begging the question
or something that has occurred
anyone can make an unverified (unverifiable) claim that an event occurred
or has been proven correct.
begging the obvious question of what you mean by "proven"
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@Intelligence_06
That is because in order for something to become a fact, all you have to do is to feel that it is true.
i'm going to take a wild guess that you're NOT an engineer
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@zedvictor4
In fact, the World is not specifically "round".
IMPERFECT OBLATE SPHEROID
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@Theweakeredge
You are confusing perceived fact with fact, they aren't synonymous.
well stated
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@Intelligence_06
What people believes, it later becomes the facts.What people believes is made of feelings.Facts are fundamentally just feelings.Facts used to be that God is truth and anything said against God is lies. Facts used to be that Earth is completely flat.Now they aren't actual facts anymore, mainly that people don't believe that anymore.Comment your thoughts on this.
REAL TRUE FACTS MUST BE QUANTIFIABLE AND OR LOGICALLY NECESSARY (and emotionally meaningless) - QUANTA
OPINION MUST BE EXPERIENTIAL AND OR PRIVATE GNOSIS AND UNFALSIFIABLE (and emotionally meaningful) - QUALIA
people often conflate consensus AXIOMS with "facts"
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@bmdrocks21
And you said that cat AND dog lovers are evenly distributed.
ok,
dog lovers are evenly distributed
cat lovers favor self-described "liberals" by approximately ten percent
perhaps not the "best indicator" to hang your hat on
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@bmdrocks21
some insight into the underlying causes of the difference
this would seem to be somewhat of an overstatement
traditionally, "conservatives" have been very pro-authoritarian
today, "liberals" seem to be much more pro-authoritarian than the "conservatives"
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@bmdrocks21
a ten percent variation is hardly "conclusive"
it is impossible to know if an individual is "left" or "right" leaning simply by the type of pet they own or the type of animal they say they "prefer"
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@bmdrocks21
from your link,
81% of those surveyed say that they like or love dogs.
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@bmdrocks21
When it comes to pet ownership, Democrats and Republicans can agree on one thing…and that’s dogs.
Dog owners are just as likely to come from either side of the political spectrum.
Cats, on the other hand, are slightly more likely to be found in Democratic homes. [**]
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@Incel-chud
1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
1.........strongly disagree
2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
1.........strongly disagree
3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
1.........strongly disagree
4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
1.........strongly disagree
5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.
1.........strongly disagree
6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
1.........strongly disagree
please in a few words tell me your political leanings, and give me your total score of the above chart. I am tainting my theory, by mentioning this, but I feel like conservatives on the site will generally have higher scores on these answers.
I scored 6, and come pretty close to being very anti-MANDATORY-vaxx
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@Incel-chud
Is that a scenario you would find anxiety producing, or would you just be indifferent or happy about the situation?
i think most people would agree that it would be viewed initially as an exhilarating challenge, and as long as some acceptable progress is made in the expected time period, it would be remembered as a positive experience
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@Incel-chud
thanks
for example,
one might enjoy some predictability in their daily routine
and still enjoy mystery and puzzle solving in some activities
how would you "generalize" this type of person ?
would you label them a "1" or a "6" ?
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@Incel-chud
Your point is? That the person would be too stupid to know the test is referencing how your feelings would be in general?
can you be slightly more specific ?
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@Incel-chud
you're forgetting that people often enjoy mystery and puzzle solvingThey would score themselves a 1.
but perhaps not in all situations
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@Incel-chud
I'd also expect you to use some common sense here.
I'd also expect you to use some common sense here.
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@Incel-chud
Here is the citation, but seriously study logic. It shouldn't be hard for somebody with an average level of intelligence to see how these questions relate to measuring ambiguity.
100% INTP
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@Incel-chud
That is unless you find every situation uncomfortable, because they are all uncertain.
you're forgetting that people often enjoy mystery and puzzle solving
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@sadolite
A cashless society is willful suicide and self destruction.
76% of americans use cashless payment methods for the majority of their purchases
The average value of a cash transaction was $22, compared to $112 for the average non-cash transaction and $84 for all transactions. [**]
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@sadolite
"Carrying cash is a crime" What is the point of even trying to make this ridiculous claim? The only way it could be considered a crime is in international travel and carrying the cash isn't a crime, but rather not reporting how much is. If it was a crime every single person on earth would be in prison. Carrying cash is not a crime. Not reporting and transporting over certain amounts is.
are you familiar with civil asset forfeiture ?
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@Incel-chud
particularly since a teamed of trained psychologists developed the test.
citation please
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@Incel-chud
1.I don't like situations that are uncertaincertainty is a childish illusion
1.........strongly disagree
2....moderately disagree
3...........slightly disagree
4................slightly agree
5.........moderately agree
6..............strongly agree
NONE OF THE ABOVE
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@Incel-chud
I doubt they are evenly distributed. But with ambiguity, we do see evidence that dictators in non democratic regines tend to have an intolerance of ambiguity.
When it comes to pet ownership, Democrats and Republicans can agree on one thing…and that’s dogs.
Dog owners are just as likely to come from either side of the political spectrum.
Cats, on the other hand, are slightly more likely to be found in Democratic homes. [**]
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@Incel-chud
It is a 1 to 6 scoring.
your methodology appears inadequate
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@Incel-chud
I think liberals will score lower in general.
nope
in the same way
dog people
and cat people
are evenly distributed between the "left" and "right"
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@Incel-chud
1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
certainty is a childish illusion
2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
every event is a complex orchestra
3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
overconfidence is more dangerous than a best guess
4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
overconfidence is more dangerous than a best guess
5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.
perfect communication is impossible
6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
most people think they believe this, but in reality, they barricade themselves
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@sadolite
The very first thing that would happen in a cashless society?
you don't seem to realize that carrying cash is already a de facto crime
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@sadolite
Way heavier then currency'
well, if you're dealing with $20 bills, you'll be hauling 3.5 times MORE mass for the same dollar value as gold
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@sadolite
The very first thing that would happen in a cashless society? The govt would use it as a political weapon against you.
now you're speaking my language
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@sadolite
I will give you a chance to rethink that very hard. LOL
when was the last time you saw someone use a manual credit card imprinter ?
credit cards are utterly useless without an internet connection
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@sadolite
Bitcoin ya that only works when the internet and electricity works.
have you heard of this new thing called "credit cards" ?
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@sadolite
cash is somewhat problematic,
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@sadolite
SEIGNIORAGE is the difference between the face value of money, such as a $10 bill or a quarter coin, and the cost to produce it. [**]
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@zedvictor4
SEIGNIORAGE is the difference between the face value of money, such as a $10 bill or a quarter coin, and the cost to produce it. [**]
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@16kadams
SEIGNIORAGE is the difference between the face value of money, such as a $10 bill or a quarter coin, and the cost to produce it. [**]
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@sadolite
To me bitcoin is not currency because it is not recognized as currency to pay debts.
El Salvador becomes first country to adopt Bitcoin as an official currency [**]
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