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LGBT compassion
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@Amber
L G B are not hated, just the T. But I wouldn't use the term hate as it really is a misnomer here. T are just despised (scorned). 
Why despise the T?
They go against nature
Said the guy smashing buttons made out of polymerized hydrocarbons pumped from the depths of the earth to communicate with light and electricity over thousands of kilometers.

There are only three realms of "nature":
1.) The sterile world, life is unnatural to that world and does unnatural things such as collecting and using energy against the flow of entropy
2.) The world of natural selection, a cruel world where mothers eat their own babies and parasitised creatures die in slow agony for the advantage of others. Philosophy and civilization is unnatural to that world.
3.) The world of the sapient mind, self-aware thought, ethics, metaphysics, ethics, religion, and civilization.

Each arose from the world prior and broke the rules of the more basic world.

We transcend evolution. We decide what is right and wrong.
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@zedvictor4
Actually, I consume both ice cream and cabbage, unemotionally.
Then you have achieved food-enlightenment... or perhaps the ice cream in your locale is not very good. I have known people who scream for ice-cream.

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Election Integrity (evidence of lack)
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@Greyparrot
4 AM on election night November 4 2020:

"Damn Claire, you have a flair for drama, delivering just the margin needed at 3:00 AM. I bet you had those votes counted at midnight, and just wanted to keep the world waiting!"

Darkest of the night on election night, but if Trump says "do an audit, recount, only need to find 11k votes" long after the count that's a conspiracy.

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Fulton county loses all the ballot images.... wow who saw that coming: the spooky "conspiracy theorists", in fact I am pretty sure I predicted it.
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Polygamy should be legalized
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@Savant
or designing insurance benefits for you.
Too bad, they are so good at designing insurance benefits; and things always work out perfectly when they do.

*begins to expand, and then finally explodes with pure unadulterated sarcasm-goo*

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Why do men like lesbian sex?
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@IlDiavolo
I never got what you mean by "overthinking" but I trully believe transgenderism is due to a genetic flaw (a mutation) as well as other conditions like down Syndrome, dwarfism, and so on. 
Genetic flaws don't have case numbers that look like pandemics.

Genetic flaws are detectable in ancestry and thus predictable in children.

If it is a disease it is a social one.
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There need to be multiple developers for this site if one developer is too overworked
I guarantee you one is enough if it's 20 hours a week paid position.
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Polygamy should be legalized
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@TheUnderdog
What, no "white power"? Just "liberty"? Couldn't think of some incomprehensible connection?

Why not "polygamy because Mohamed did it and he was based like the confederacy"?

Oh I know: "Without polygamy the human race is doomed because the population will go to zero due to all the abortions so we need to encourage baby factory harems by chad alpha males"
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I’m an atheist, but willing to be convinced otherwise
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@Lemming
If there is no objective morality, there is no morality.

"Cause god said so" is an appeal to authority. If god is omnipotent it is wise practical advise but not an argument... or to put it another way the assertion is "might makes right" and therefore since he is the mightiest he is right.

Now an omniscient and infinitely wise god would be able to explain why he's right subject to the limitations of limited beings, but an objective truth you are too stupid to understand is still objective.
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LGBT compassion
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@zedvictor4
Hate is perpetuated by formative conditioning.
Hate is the inverse of love. We hate what we perceive to threaten that which we love.

This is inescapable.

What is escapable is loving the wrong things and being deluded about what truly threatens what. Also if you are a budhist you can try to love nothing but the eternal (and thus unthreatened).
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Free infinite food - rabbits
Doesn't matter since 40 rabbits doesn't produce the same amount of food
Yeah, it produces more.

40 rabbits = 200 rabbits in a month
You really are getting a good laugh out of me.

If you have 40 rabbits and you add 200 how many rabbits do you have?


Logic isn't your strong suite, you should be on redit; not a debate site
I guess you dont have a counter argument.
Add that to the list of blindingly obvious things you missed.
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Free infinite food - rabbits
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@Best.Korea
But no, I dont see why would you have 280 rabbits all the time
Logic isn't your strong suite, you should be on redit; not a debate site.


Having 40 rabbits is easier than having 40 chickens
Doesn't matter since 40 rabbits doesn't produce the same amount of food.


and chicken feed isnt exactly free.
lol, go pick grass and bugs from them from the forest rofl
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Free infinite food - rabbits
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@Best.Korea
rofl
Yeah, how would you gather grass for 4 rabbits? By a machine?
Yes, before machines the only time humans fed livestock as opposed to them grazing a pasture was when they were fed waste material (like the wheat stalks after threshing or scraps to pigs).

It's not worth it. You might be able to survive, but most of your life will be taken up in keeping yourself alive.

"4 rabbits"


A rabbit is 583 calories, you need to eat four rabbits a day to avoid starvation. That means you need 1,460 rabbits per year. It takes 10 weeks (70 days) for a rabbit to grow to slaughter size.

If you could perfectly time births (which you cant') that would mean on any given day you would need the rabbits for the next 70 days alive in your hutch.

That's 280 rabbits at any given time.

What's this? You don't need to eat only rabbit meat?

Oh I know, that's the point. If you planted potatoes, corn, beans, and other vegetables and used small farming equipment (mini tractor mounted) you could use a tiny fraction of the land and time to feed yourself. You might even choose to produce a bit more so you could convert some of it to meat, but I would still not recommend rabbits because it still takes way too long to butcher them compared to the amount of meat you get.

That's why people farm the way they do. There are no infinite glitches. Time and labor IS money and if rabbit farming saved time and labor there would be rabbit meat in the supermarkets instead of eggs, chicken, beef, pork, and fish.

Chicken eggs are the #1 way to convert random bits of plants and pest insects into useful edible protein. Unlike rabbit meat you can make custard with eggs. Only a fool would choose rabbits over chickens.
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Election Integrity (evidence of lack)

A councilman broke half the election laws. 70 fraudulent ballots. All sent to his public address. He signed them all.

He was arrested, ballots taken, he left the state, they went to his house again MORE BALLOTS

"audits" rofl
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Free infinite food - rabbits
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@Best.Korea
Now you're grazing for the livestock... by hand....
Yep. Thats how farming usually works
rofl

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The DOJ blocks tapes of Biden’s interview
Garland said, releasing the audio could jeopardize future sensitive and high-profile investigations. Officials have suggested handing over the tape could make future witnesses concerned about cooperating with investigators.

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Free infinite food - rabbits
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@Best.Korea
Of course you have the plants setup remote power via subspace vibrations DUH!
You take the grass from a forest and bring it to rabbits. Like, I cant see how could you possibly not figure it out lol
Now you're grazing for the livestock... by hand....


1 rabbit gives birth to up to 50 rabbits per year.
and you're going to feed them all by marching around national forests with a scythe, genius! Then you'll spend four hours a day butchering enough rabbits to live on. It will work out fine.
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Why I don't believe Israel is committing a genocide
Troll
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The horrible, but honest truth about the right wing's position on Israel
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@TheUnderdog
The right: Because they are white and the Palestinians are dirty and brown.  We can't say that because being openly racist is socially unacceptable.
It's got to be trolling.


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Free infinite food - rabbits
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@Best.Korea
 if you had ever lived near them you would know there are no forests or grasslands which are not claimed by somebody
lol I guess you dont know what is a national forest.
Good luck with your free range rabbit colony in a national forest.


You dont release rabbits into a forest lmao

Like, thats probably the dumbest thought I ever heard of, and your brain somehow assumed the dumbest possible option as a response to me.
Of course you have the plants setup remote power via subspace vibrations DUH!


Actually, the rabbits produce 6 times more meat than cows, but its not something someone who lives in a city would be familiar with.

Wikipedia disagrees.
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Free infinite food - rabbits
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@Best.Korea
No, it means forests and grasslands are imaginary things to you because if you had ever lived near them you would know there are no forests or grasslands which are not claimed by somebody.

You let rabbits out into a forest (or fields) you don't own and somebody is going to kill them all. Either a human trying to protect his field or the many predators in every forest... and even if some survive how are you ever going to get them back to eat them? You start killing random rabbits on other people's land or public parks they will call that poaching, you saying "but I released these rabbits great grandma" isn't going to keep you out of jail.

You try to kill all the predators the forest rangers, or worse the forest owner, is going to have words with you. You try to build a hutch or a fence on land you don't own and there will be problems.

Now you can buy yourself a lot of land in some remote region so that you do own enough land for a bunch of rabbits to eat but I GUARANTEE you that under those circumstances there are much more productive ways to get nutrients.

If North Koreans are raising rabbits instead of pigs, cows, and chickens it's probably because communist thugs will steel the cattle whereas rabbits aren't worth the trouble.
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Free infinite food - rabbits
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@Best.Korea
Do you know how annoying it is to butcher an animal? Do you know that the work to meat ratio goes up the smaller the animal is? Did you know that the smaller the animal the smaller the predator that can take it down meaning the harder it is to protect them from predators?

Tons of animals eat grass, it's not "free everywhere" people own land and they do not tolerate pasturing random stranger's livestock. The only kind of person who could think grass is free is a suburban simpleton who probably hasn't yet internalized that his parents actually had to work to get that house and that pathetic lawn that serves only to create a weekly chore.

Grass-fed meat is free like solar energy and maize is free.

This OP is a sign sealed confession of being one of those doomed urban ignoramuses that ask why you need to farm when you can get food from the supermarket.
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Who in their right mind would want a ceasefire with these animals!?
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@baggins
Also there is the Mediterranean Sea which offers sea access to: Just about every country on Earth, and specifically Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan (via Suez), Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Saudi Arabia (via Suez), Yemen (via Suez), Oman (via Suez), UAE (via Suez), Qatar (via Suez), Iraq (via Suez), and Iran (via Suez).
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Who in their right mind would want a ceasefire with these animals!?
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@baggins
So are you implying that the statement is a lie/false or just over exaggerated ?
It is entirely false and since a map proves it is false and everyone in the modern world has access to maps it is also a lie.

https://www.google.com/maps Search for "Rafah Crossing"
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Who in their right mind would want a ceasefire with these animals!?
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@baggins
If Muslim nations gave the innocent a way out then it would just be Israel vs the murderous raping terrorists and the annexation of Gaza would be be all but assured.
What would you say in response to someone saying “How can they even leave and go somewhere else if Israel has blockaded everything and is shooting everyone that comes close to the border”.
No words are an appropriate response, I would show them a map and then give Khaby gestures.

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@Greyparrot
Iran and Egypt and Jordan won't take in the refugees.
Of course not, they're all quite content with the propaganda victory that using children as human shields is providing.

If Muslim nations gave the innocent a way out then it would just be Israel vs the murderous raping terrorists and the annexation of Gaza would be be all but assured. You see they want Israel destroyed and the first step to that end is to sever Israel from its supporters in western civilization. If they can accomplish that they will try their luck again in open warfare.

The worst thing for this ambition would be Israel becoming peaceful place with a lot of proud Muslim citizens. So they do everything they can to keep this bizarre situation of a pseudo-state full of families that is the constant and repeated staging ground for acts of war.

On the other side Israel is very afraid of annexing Gaza and West Bank fully, giving universal suffrage (as the courts would likely force), and then having to face elections where a majority might vote for abandonment of civil rights quickly leading to concentration camps for Jews.

Everyone is caught between a rock and a hard place, of course Israel's rock is its own dedication to liberal principles and rule of law which is what makes them the good guys.
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@baggins
This is very shortly and dumbly summarized
It's pretty much right.

Gaza is basically it's own state and the government is Hamas regardless of other representations. If Hamas was not the real government the real government would not tolerate Hamas using its territory to commit acts of war.

So you can't really tell what people mean these days when they say "two state solution", they could just mean "you know those people who have been making war on you and breaking the Geneva convention at every opportunity? Give them effective control of the west bank where tons of Jews live."

I think Israel has been more patient and measured than any nation in history and it's is high time for a one state solution: Israel to annex any territory that launches artillery at them or serves as a staging point for rape murder gangs. Keep going until you run into countries that don't let that happen and don't let anything go.
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Unix Epoch
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@RaymondSheen
Being silly can be fun, but silly walks make me sore.
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Unix Epoch
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@RaymondSheen
1970 is the unix epoch, this is either 0 or -1.0 or something in the database. A null signifier. A simple bug nothing to get excited about.

The "2K" bug was a hyped up crises caused by some silly people pointing out that other silly people recorded only the last two digits of the year in digital storage.

It was silly to get excited because no seriously designed system clock was designed in such an inane way and it was always silly to store "98" instead of "1998" given that using three bytes instead of one pretty much future proofs the variable and there was never a time in which three bytes was wasteful. If you needed to store large time data just define a new epoch for the entire set.
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I stand for free speech
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@TheUnderdog
Do you at any point make arguments? You're permanently stuck in the assertion, declaration of stance, disagreeing about categories stage.
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Biden tries to assassinate Trump
If anyone who was at Maralago dies no matter how much later or for what reasons let's say he or she was murdered by the FBI. It worked for Brian Sicknick.
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I’m an atheist, but willing to be convinced otherwise
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@Moozer325
This is not a good idea. You might attract the attention of the thumpers, Like Brother D.

Here is a question, how would you know you're talking to god just because a being much more powerful than you does miracles?

Could be satan, could be aliens. Turns out it's not possible to prove to finite organisms that you are infinite.
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9/11 for you.
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@cristo71
The proper response to 9/11 would have been to declare a cease fire with Al Qaida and the Taliban.
Try to talk it out.

They would say they want the great satan to fall into the pit of hell ASAP, our leaders would ask for a golden parachute clause which they would of course deny.
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Why I (as a man) prefer they/them pronouns
Trolling or extreme autism? You decide!
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F20M TH3 R1V3R T0 TH3 S3A
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@3RU7AL
it doesn't matter what they believe

they are still humans
So are nazis, sometimes humans need to be bombed.

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@TheUnderdog
I would say beastiality just urkes me way more than homosexual sex.  Not ban worthy, but I would probably say urking = degenerate.  I'm changing my standard.
How honest of you, let others take note. Please keep your hands and arms inside the subjective train at all times to avoid being proven wrong.

I'm afraid you put the idea of brussel sprouts in my head and I'm going to make some. You've got to cook them a certain way or they are worthless. In general if you think a vegetable tastes bad you haven't had it prepared properly. Certain flavors don't appear except at a certain temperature for a certain time, other unpleasant flavors are sometimes destroyed in similar ways. Like brewing coffee, a bad batch of coffee (brewed wrong) is a wretched thing.

If you have the kind of attitude that never considers things from new perspectives you might go from the age of 7 to your deathbed without ever trying certain foods again.

Cultures can be like that too, Islam for example creates and exists in a culture of self-righteous obsession with regulation. Now they're stuck with the nonsense that some random guy decided a thousand years ago. Blood, pigs, shellfish urked somebody and centuries later they decided that it actually bothers god.

Easy to laugh at that guy when you aren't aware of your own baseless peeves. What happens when a lot of people have the same peeve? When parents pass it on to children? It becomes dogma.

Don't drink cappuccinos in the afternoon. Isn't it obvious?
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@TheUnderdog
In prehistory people didn't always cook the meat, but this was 1920ish.
Then why was HIV obtained in the 1920s and not earlier?  People were eating monkeys pretty much forever.  Sexual degeneracy happened much more recently (along with a population growth, leading to a higher chance of animals giving at least one human a disease).
Don't beg the question, it's not degenerate unless there is a medical problem and that's what we're learning you have no idea about.

If you think bestiality started in 1920 you are mistaken.

Variants of HIV were transmitted in prehistory, they did not survive except as fossil DNA. So this has happened before.

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@TheUnderdog
Impossible to know, evidence indicates it was a chimpanzee in prehistory.
How did humans get that STI from monkeys?
Chimpanzees are not monkeys.


HIV is transmissible through sex; highly unlikely we stepped on monkey blood.
It could have been sex, but it is far far far more likely to have been blood from a dead chimp getting onto an open wound of a butcher.

In prehistory people didn't always cook the meat, but this was 1920ish.

In either case neither meat eating nor sex created HIV.
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Why do men like lesbian sex?
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@IlDiavolo
When a rival beats you in sexual selection (the female chooses them and not you) you feel jealous (well people do in general).
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To be clear I am talking about the sexual act. A well written lesbian romance is just as interesting to me as any other.
I don't buy the argument about jealousy, otherwise heterosexual porn wouldn't be so popular.
Well it would only be a subconscious factor among other stronger factors (in the theory).


When I watch porn I imagine being the porn actor. I don't feel any jelousy, maybe a bit of envy towards the actor's penis size.
Why would you envy something you have if you are the actor in the fantasy?

On a related note I've seen lots of discussion about what makes a protagonist the protagonist, how far to people go when imagining themselves as the protagonist? Are stories where the protagonist isn't clear chaotic or flexible?


But you said something interesting, that you like lesbian romance. Maybe you respond better to sexual stories, like erotic movies.
I am not sure what would be "better" or "worse" but I certainly appreciate erotic stories especially in a wider romantic plot, but I don't think that's unusual or surprising.

It's the same reason a long running series can be capped by a movie and the movie means so much more for all the character development of the series.


Do you like porn? Do you like to do dirty things during sex?
I like porn. I don't know exactly what you mean by "dirty". Some people call anything sexual dirty, but I have no kink for actual mud, unpleasant smells or substances, etc...
Well, uncommon things that average women wouldn't engage in, like oral sex, anal sex, ass-licking, cum on face, cum swallowing, and so on.
I am told I do not have a lot of experience with women for a man of my age, but it sounds as if the women in my locale are much more... 'open' than what you are used to.

Oral sex and swallowing have not been considered outside the comfort zone by any woman (or man) I've had sex with. None of them (women not men) have asked for anal sex and I have not suggested it. I get the impression but obviously cannot know for sure that the anus is a poor substitute for a vagina and aside from being a contraceptive strategy or the only option for male reception I think it's only suggested out of a desperate boredom with normal intercourse.

Ass licking is not something I've done nor something I would ask someone else to do. That does gross me out, although... you can clean the rectum fairly well; but again that's firmly in the "doing it just because it is something different" and I would exhaust many many other options before resorting to that. I don't want to do that so much that I don't even tell people I don't want to do it because then they would make it a challenge to nag me about.
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@RaymondSheen
Impossible to know, evidence indicates it was a chimpanzee in prehistory.
The H in HIV stands for Human. You're thinking S for Simian?
That's nomenclature. The virus infects both species. It is in general much more likely for a virus to be effective against closely related targets than distantly related targets.

For example it would be very unusual (and dangerous) if the same virus could infect ants and humans. Since we can't get rid of ants we would be unable to eradicate such a virus by any known means.

This is also how the flu variants keep reappearing, birds have them and even if we quarantine our sick the birds do not.

This shines a light on two rather important points:

1.) Most persistent diseases are or were zoonoses. Bacteria and viruses which can adapt to different species are... adaptable, and adaptable is bad for disease control.
2.) Most zoonoses and the dangerous diseases in general aren't STIs, STIs by definition are just about as difficult to transmit as a disease can be. No STI is a pandemic and the solution to quarantine STIs is simple and straightforward, failure to do so is a testament only to the lack of self-discipline in the society.
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@TheUnderdog
How do you know?
That you're ignorant of basic biology?

You said "I would assume virtually every time someone has had sex with an animal, an STI was created."

Which indicates that you don't understand the origin of species. In two sentences: Random mutations in inheritable traits may cause functional changes that increase or decrease the likelihood of further inheritance, most notably through the number of offspring. This causes a nonrandom bias in the gene frequency allowing it to change over time to increase functionality (of reproduction).

If you had known that you would know that the likelihood of "creating an STI" is a subcategory of "creating a new species (or variant of a species)" which would be proportional to the mutation rate of the species times its current population.

Whether it was a successful new species is an entirely different question.

This applies to bacteria and to viruses.

Therefore it is correct to say: Behavior doesn't create disease, it spreads diseases which are constantly appearing.


Who got the 1st case of HIV?
Impossible to know, evidence indicates it was a chimpanzee in prehistory.


And who did they have sex with to get that case?
No one, it was a random mutation. If they got it from someone else, then they weren't the 1st case. <- basic logic

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@IlDiavolo
There may be value in bronskibeat's theory as I have long noted that I have a nearly dead jealousy reflex.
Really? The great majority of men like lesbian sex, there are a lot of movies that depicts this phenomenon.
A great majority of people experience jealousy in predictable ways too.

If I understood it right bronksibeat was basically speculating that your subconscious sees another male as a rival even as an observer and this is disconcerting as compared to two females.

When a rival beats you in sexual selection (the female chooses them and not you) you feel jealous (well people do in general).

The inverse is no doubt true with females.

All psychology is pseudoscience at this point in history, but I was merely saying that anecdotally this theory fits my experience. Since I don't really feel jealousy I would not subconsciously feel threatened by the other male, thus no appreciation for lesbian sex developed beyond the "virtues" of the physical.

To be clear I am talking about the sexual act. A well written lesbian romance is just as interesting to me as any other.


Maybe you're a special case and could be valuable to find out why is so.
We're all special cases but I am in more than one small psychological minority.


Do you like porn? Do you like to do dirty things during sex?
I like porn. I don't know exactly what you mean by "dirty". Some people call anything sexual dirty, but I have no kink for actual mud, unpleasant smells or substances, etc...
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@TheUnderdog
Then butt sex with a dog or a man can be rendered non-degenerate (generate?) by a medical screening.
If no STDs were presented, then I could see that.  I would assume virtually every time someone has had sex with an animal, an STI was created.  STIs just didn't pop out of nowhere.
In substance you know nothing more about biology than the prophet (may he be remembered as peaceful even though he was a warlord).

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Most Science is Nonsense
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@RaymondSheen
Science is sometimes published in academic journals, published articles in academic journals aren't by definition "science".

"science" as delivered to you by TV personalities, blogs, consumer tabloids, and bureaucrats is not science.

Carbon dioxide is not a threat nor a source of warming.
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@IlDiavolo
No I don't have an explanation and I'm the opposite. Lesbian sex is like a cold shower for me. Everybody has extra holes but that is the only configuration with zero poles.

There may be value in bronskibeat's theory as I have long noted that I have a nearly dead jealousy reflex.
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@TheUnderdog
So if it grosses you out but is medically safe then it is not degenerate?
Correct.  Example: Eating Brussel Sprouts.
Then butt sex with a dog or a man can be rendered non-degenerate (generate?) by a medical screening.

Isn't it nice when things have simple solutions?

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Presidential Immunity
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@Greyparrot
The one on trial is the people of NY,NY. Do they still belong in the union? This jury will tell us.
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Presidential Immunity
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@Greyparrot
I can't disagree, but the competition has been fierce.
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@cristo71
I saw that, a classic; but their complex motives can't be compressed to only a few minutes. He didn't even get into what order or how painfully.
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@TheUnderdog
Is it anything that is gross (to you) or is it medically inadvisable (degenerate)?
And, not or.  I think both are required.  But other than that, I think you are correct.
So if it grosses you out but is medically safe then it is not degenerate?

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@TheUnderdog
So "degeneracy" is just shorthand for "medically inadvisable"?
Medically inadvisable and just extremely gross to even think about.
You have made yourself famous on this site for your obtuse attempt to simplify everything to dichotomies. Surely you can explain what you mean by "degenerate":

Is it anything that is gross (to you) or is it anything that is medically inadvisable?
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