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@b9_ntt
What I believe is that, in general, laws should be obeyed.
Objective morality should be followed, laws should reflect objective morality, and when they do they deserve to be followed.
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@b9_ntt
Oh it was US troops on foreign territory that refused to get out.... that's an act of war.South Carolina was not a foreign territory at that time.
That was the union claim, it was not the legal truth.
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@Dr.Franklin
In any other country the literal arrest of the former president would instantly cause violence and riots. The right in this country has no backbone.
You may have missed what happened on Jan 6. DC and New York are enemy territory. There is no point in protesting or rioting in such places, it just provides cover for false flags.
It would be a grave miscalculation to assume that all of this is being forgotten. The radicalization of the leadership is lacking, but the base proceeds apace. Poor DeSantis can't even come to grips with the fact that most right-tribe wanted him to promise arrest for any NY cop coming to Florida to abduct Trump.
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@b9_ntt
I'm talking about the violations of the constitution Lincoln did to win the war he started.The South started the war with the attack on Fort Sumter.Before that, Lincoln was considering not fighting secession.
Why would the confederacy suppressing rebels in their own territory be considered an attack on the USA?
Oh it was US troops on foreign territory that refused to get out.... that's an act of war.
Lincoln ignored the declarations of secession, pretended like they didn't exist weren't legally valid. That started the war, the same way it would start a war if Germany demanded the withdrawal of US troops and the executive branch pretended it never happened.
Lincoln didn't order anyone to start shooting because he didn't need to in order to start the war. Simply by ignoring the claimed transfer of power he became an aggressor under English common law.
Observe:
If Trump simply refused to acknowledge the electors from states whose elections he declared insecure he wouldn't have to shoot anyone or bomb anything. If he had surrounded himself with true loyalists instead of naive fools and deep state plants they could have simply carried on as before.
Then would come a moment where the only thing left to do is try to remove Trump by force. Would that mean Trump didn't start the war?
Right-wing claims of tyranny about mask and vaccine mandates are less than convincing. They need something much stronger to justify civil war.
You know the people who fought the civil war didn't agree about what was convincing? that's when civil wars happen.
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@SkepticalOne
'Trump is innocent and he might be convicted.' Brilliant.
Obvious, not brilliant.
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@Greyparrot
Just wondering, how do you auto correct...trunalimunumaprzureAsufutimaehaehfutbw
Even ChatGPT doesn't know...
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@FLRW
The 45th president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, has officially been "INDICATED."Well, at least that's what he said in a rant on his social media platform, Truth Social.What Trump really means is that he's been "indicted."Should someone with an IQ of 73 really be President?
The double standard appears everywhere, it is the new law of our time. Biden doesn't write his own tweets, and his speech is a good indication of why.
Obvious autocorrect and you think you've evaluated IQ.
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@SkepticalOne
Lol, you believe trump is innocent while also making excuses for why he might be found guilty.I think you've covered all the bases there! 😆
You say it like it's an error on my part. If Donald Trump was charged with criminal fraud for buying a big mac on the moon I can simultaneously claim:
1.) That's impossible
2.) It's not a crime
3.) There are people out there (especially in New York) who would find him guilty of "criminal fraudulent lunar burger purchase"
The fact that there is no scenario in which this is justified regardless of the evidence is an enormous red flag blotting out the sun, but you think it's funny that I point it out.
Mean while actual crimes of democrats are ignored (like Biden selling US foreign policy), sad, but what can I do? You have been given every warning possible. You will still act surprised when it comes to blood.
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@SkepticalOne
If he (or anyone) committed a crime (which it appears he did)
You must also subscribe to Double_R's algorithm to believe Trump thought he was yielding to blackmail by paying his own lawyer despite the lawyer's lawyer writing letters admitting that Trump didn't know. You must be sick with TDS to even believe there is such a crime as "campaign hushmoney forgery"
Rhetorical fluff:
From a great distance this persistent warping of the rational faculty that has been programmed into people like you might be fascinating. Unfortunately since you're free on this planet it's more frightening than fascinating.
You and Sam Harris are exactly the kind of zombies that make up NYC and DC juries. There can be no justice with you, you can't even be trusted to see the most obvious facts or care about them.
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@FLRW
Actually, porn actor Stormy Daniels maintains that she had sex with Donald Trump in 2006. Daniels said a letter she signed under pressure in 2018, claiming the affair “never happened,” was a “lie.” But some conservatives are misleadingly citing that letter as proof that Trump and Daniels were never intimate and she was not paid “hush money.”
lol you could work for the propaganda arm of the left-tribe known as the "mainstream media" by some. What a spin, but "actually" what I said was perfectly accurate. She did deny it.
Trump = constant as the northern star (in this context)
Daniels = flipflop twice, but signed her name under a denial
To left tribers Trump's word means nothing. Don't give a shit, daniels has no credibility. She couldn't even keep to her blackmail deal.
Where is double R, what do you say double R are people more reliable when writing signed letters? Is this about right for your algorithm:
float checkReliability(bool hurts_right_tribe)
{
If (hurts_right_tribe)
return 0.95f;
else
return 0.15f;
}
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@FLRW
Not according to Trump or Stormy... I would call that blackmail on Stormy's part, but recall what I just said about "our" injustice system.
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@PREZ-HILTON
That might be some of it. There have been suggestions when they didn't control the federal government that California wanted to leave. They don't like the idea now because they are in control. If they lose control they'll be all for it, and since right-tribe is more principled that is when it might actually happen.
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@ludofl3x
Is anyone ever going to argue he shouldn't be indicted because he DIDN'T DO CRIMES
We are way past that.
He's innocent of this crime.
It's a made up crime in a classic damned if you do damned if you don't situation. Once you see government in the wild you understand that there are an enormous number of laws that contradict each other or could easily be interpreted in absurd ways. There are also laws which are designed to never be enforced until the state wants to wreck your day: Speed limits, J-walking, most county regulations.
it's 30 criminal counts of fraud. It seems exclusively
When you don't trust the cops, judge, prosecutor, or jury it may as well be 30 counts of genocide.
When you hear about someone political dissident in CCP, Russia, or Venusuala being charged and found guilty of this that and the other thing do you ask "I wonder why political dissidents are so criminal?"
No, you know those systems are rigged. The charges don't matter because evidence and reason don't matter to the accusers.
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@PREZ-HILTON
It's starting to happen fortunately.
It's at like 4% when left-tribe is already at 80% (arresting political leaders on trumped up charges).
The only chance to avoid full civil war is a fizzled cultural revolution ASAP or peaceful divorce. Further violence is unavoidable, but it could be minimized by restoring the balance of fear.
Pardon all Jan 6 people, pay them restitution using funds diverted from the FBI, arrest 10,000 people associated with the CHAZ and another 20,000 associated with the general summer of love rioting. Arrest and charge Hilary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Obama. Try them with juries from West Virginia, rural Texas, and Florida. Investigate everyone in the DOJ 3 layers down in hierarchy and charge them with the same abandon as Trump associates (i.e. Rodger Stone)
There are left-tribers reading that and losing their shit, but that is commiserate treatment. It is correction from the unequal application of the law that has already occurred.
That is how far we are just from balance, and to be honest you need to go a bit farther than balance to discourage escalation.
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@Sidewalker
Comments?I hope he goes to jail and becomes radicalized.LOL, the whack job sociopath isn't radical enough for you?
Not even close.
Yeah, the only essential ingredient for fascism is victimhood
To claim injustice is to claim victim hood. There are no political movements without purported victims. This is blindingly obvious.
I'm talking Lincoln level shit.Hey, you mean "The Lincoln Project", that's what I'm talking about too.
No, I'm talking about the violations of the constitution Lincoln did to win the war he started.
1.) States obviously had a right to leave the union, he didn't care. He deployed the army against domestic political enemies.
2.) Newspapers were treading on the line on reporting on troop movements for the enemy, he censored them.
3.) Supreme court justices were going to rule against his efforts, he put them under house arrest.
All this is forgiven by posterity because in the end there was a just cause.
Governments, laws, and constitutions are not sacred. Morality is sacred. Liberty is truest morality. Social contracts are void between those who break them and those who didn't.
It's possible the republic would be restored, it's possible Trump would try to make himself some kind of king; but he would fail because his defenders are not his worshipers despite the propaganda you've ingested.
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@Sidewalker
Comments?
I hope he goes to jail and becomes radicalized. Clearly this culture war won't end until somebody starts giving the left-tribe a taste of their own medicine. I'm talking Lincoln level shit.
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@YouFound_Lxam
It's not asserted definitions.It's using APA definitions to define mental illnesses.
Their assertion or yours doesn't matter, nobody proves a definition is correct. Definitions are the matter on which logic operates.
Logic says that definition includes anything that induces or alters thought or action. Thus it is a definition so broad as to be useless.
Also I don't even need their definition to prove it is a mental illness.
You definitely need a definition.
Trans-people used to be called, patients with the mental illness of gender dysphoria.Gender dysphoria is a mental illness, therefore Transgenderism is a mental illness as well.
... but the only reason it used to be called a mental disorder via gender dysphoria is because the APA asserted it. You appeal to the authority of the APA of the past but not the present?
In any case appealing to authority is not a valid argument.
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@Best.Korea
@YouFound_Lxam
[Best.Korea] They are mutually exclusive.
Why?
[YouFound_Lxam] Well that's your decision to not accept the evidence.
Asserted definitions aren't evidence. Last time I'll say it.
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@Best.Korea
Yeah, so mental illness.
Nah, mental illness (if it means anything) is intrinsic to the individual.
The statements of third parties about fourth parties couldn't possibly be relevant.
Nearly every gender dysphoric person has not shot up a school, nor defended shooting up a school, nor suggested the school was shot up due to oppression.
Murderers need to be killed. They are not victims. They are evil.
Now I fully understand you may have been troll-posting before, but how do you go from "prison is torture for pedophiles" to this. Isn't it glaringly obvious that victim and murderer are not mutually exclusive? They aren't even anti-correlated.
The only reason someone would possibly think that someone can't be both at the same time is if their opinions are centered solely in a single emotional stream. This is why children used to be required to read quality drama books as well as being challenged and historical narratives in later schooling.
So many people have been brought up in a pre-philosophical mindset, they can't feel two things at once.
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@Best.Korea
Too late for that, plenty of people in highish places have been saying it.
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@YouFound_Lxam
You are the one who needs a definition to make your case, not me. If the definition is an entire article I think that qualifies as complicated to the point of vagueness.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Your only reasoning for not believing it, is that you think the medical professionals are quacks.
Definitions aren't something to believe in, they are useful or not. They are widely accepted or not.
That one is useless because it includes coffee.
Consequently the giving of that definition is evidence of quackery. Don't confuse cause and effect.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@YouFound_Lxam
That's going to need some major citation IMO."The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50% across the countries."
This was one of the citations: Preventing Transgender Suicide | National Center for Transgender Equality (transequality.org)
"In the survey that NCTE conducted with The Task Force, 41% of those who responded reported having attempted suicide at some point in their lives"
and @PREZ-HILTON
The data source is a survey. That doesn't mean it's false, but try to keep in mind that there is heavy selection bias here.
There is even more bias in surveys of psychiatrists and therapists. People who feel fine don't pay to be "fixed".
Two datapoints among hundreds of thousands?The LGBTQIA+ movement hasn't blown up like it has in the culture only up until recently.A lot of recent shootings have been by LGBTQ+ identifying individuals.The school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee - Transgender shooter.The LGBTQ nightclub shooting in Colorado Springs, Colorado - Non-binary shooterThe STEM school shooting in Denver, Colorado - Transgender shooter.The pharmaceuticals distribution center shooting in Aberdeen, Maryland - Transgender shooter.And more cases like this one.Let's also not forget that shooters are rarely female, yet in 3 of the examples I provided, the shooter was in fact female.Does anyone else see a correlation?
So there are more than I thought, still...
You need to define mental illness and then show that the definition of transgender is by inescapable inference a mental illness. Otherwise this is inappropriate way to describe sapient beings.Mental Illness: "Mental illnesses are health conditions involving changes in emotion, thinking or behavior (or a combination of these). Mental illnesses can be associated with distress and/or problems functioning in social, work or family activities."
That's just the kind of definition I would expect from psychiatrists (and psychologists). They're quacks. It's a pseudoscience.
So how does converting to a religion fail to meet this definition?
"changes in behavior" my god, drinking coffee is a mental illness.
To top it all off "can be associated" only can be? Not necessarily? Well thank you Mr. "medical professional" I understand you can classify anything except perfect mental homeostasis as a mental disorder at will, sounds legit.
It is most definitely a mental illness. And we need to handle this like we would any other mental illness.
If I let your comment change my behavior you would meet the definition of a mental illness.
Come on, something precise and objectively applicable.
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@YouFound_Lxam
42% of Transgender identifying people commit suicide.
That's going to need some major citation IMO.
Most of the mass shootings recently have been by LGBTQ identifying people. Anyone seeing the correlation?
Two datapoints among hundreds of thousands?
You can't just say X group is statistically likely to do bad stuff and therefore they're nuts. If that was valid what would you have to say about blacks in US cities?
You need to define mental illness and then show that the definition of transgender is by inescapable inference a mental illness. Otherwise this is inappropriate way to describe sapient beings.
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@YouFound_Lxam
First of all, the article from the Daily Wire wasn't false. Maybe a bit misleading, but not false. Everything said on there was factual information.Therefore, it is not FAKE NEWS, it is just slightly misleading, and maybe misrepresenting.
It used quoted words that did not appear in the paper. That level of misrepresentation is fake news.
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@oromagi
, give me one exact time that they have published fake news, and not apologized or corrected themselves on.
- Climate Scientists: Climate Models Have Overestimated Global Warming
- The article literally says "these Oxford scientists claim X"
- 3 days later, all of those Oxford scientists come back and say "False, you totally misrepresented our findings and conclusion"
- Scientists everywhere condemned the article as 100% FAKE NEWS
- Andrew MacDougall: The article selectively quotes from interviews and scientific papers to create the false perception that climate models significantly overestimate the rate of warming. The article also falsely implies that the cited paper is about the so called “hiatus” while the paper is actually about the carbon budget for the 1.5 ºC target.
- Pierre Friedlingstein: Bad coverage of the Nature Geoscience article. The title and first 3 paragraphs are misleading. It seems very clear that the author of this article did not read the scientific article he is reporting on.
- Nevertheless, the Daily Wire has never apologized, corrected, or expained why they reported the opposite of the truth.
I confirm that was fake news.
John Bickley writes "The report, published in the journal Nature Geoscience on September 18, acknowledges that most of the models of warming trends failed to predict the “slowdown” in warming post-2000, resulting in less"
there is no discussion of models used before 2000, and models used after 2000 would be predicting from then on. While it may be true that pre-2000 models did overestimate the linked article does not discuss them.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2973?error=cookies_not_supported&code=218ffe39-219e-4fd6-beb1-9e0c19ab17c9 was more accurate to the claims made.
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[RationalMadman] Just so you are both aware and future voters are aware, this entire following text is being deleted and what's in the OP is replacing it:
That was my understanding, and that is an improvement despite the fact that the new one still contains vague language.
Especially "You may not engage in or promote criminal activity." as I said when I first signed up, a ridiculous thing to put on a debate site. What set of laws of what place are used to determine this? "engage in" as if moderators should be the judge and jury for purportedly criminal behavior that has nothing to do with this platform.
All political disagreement is disagreement about proper use of government violence and thus what should constitute criminal behavior. Most nations on Earth today have a history steeped in democratic revolution. That was what would now (absurdly) be defined as "terrorism".
I know that this clause "You may not threaten or promote violence against any person or persons" has not been enforced despite reporting. If the mods aren't willing to enforce a rule it shouldn't be there, why? because they may be willing asymmetrically when they're pissed off at someone. Unequal application of the law is worse than unequal laws.
The only thing that would ever be legally required of this website is the prohibition of the posting of illegal content in the jurisdiction of the servers/corporation.
Thus:
Yay
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@oromagi
We know the exact time and place and authorship of the Left vs. Right dichotomy because the French Assembly put it all on record.
You just won't admit that what they called left and right have almost nothing to do with what modern people mean when they say left and right.
There's no such thing as intentionally vague definitions.
Oh my...
the set of all people called Leftists is the set of all people who believe that human rights take priority over property rights.
By that definition one must be of the opinion that rights conflict to be a leftist. How do you define rightist?
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@SkepticalOne
If you ever meet the less than 1% of the population that is born this way, then that is an exception.Again, this is equivalent to the amount of people who have red hair. It's not a small amount.
You are equivocating. Lxam is clearly referring to chromosome phenotype mismatch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex:
or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female", the prevalence of intersex is about 0.018%
You are talking about self-reported gender dysphoria which could range wildly depending on how much attention from adults being non-binary garners. If you were talking about phenotype mismatch you were simply quite wrong. Redheads ~2% https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-percentage-of-the-world-population-have-red-hair.html
2/0.018 = 111 times more likely to be a redhead than have a phenotype genotype gender mismatch.
Again I point out to both of you that these percentages are entirely irrelevant since nobody's honest policy cares about intersex or the difference between one in a million vs one in a hundred.
What is the threshold at which a minority can demand pronouns? Is 1% enough to entitle a group to propagandize children?
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@SkepticalOne
It proves nothing other than I personally defer to expertise rather than allow my views to be informed by ignorance. No shame here.
Neither shame nor an argument to address.
What a mundane dodge. Analogies aren't strawmen.Non-analogous analogies are strawmen.
At worst they are bad analogies. A strawman requires a misrepresentation.
Defecating in the street?! Seriously. Gtfo here with that BS.
You find that more disturbing than amputating the limbs of children? Hard to predict. Perhaps if an academy of sciences told you bathrooms were were inherently stressful to the claustrophobic?
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@YouFound_Lxam
You might want to define "LGBT Ideas"
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@SkepticalOne
We would certainly need legislation if a group of surgeons were performing amputations as "acts of mercy".If experts in the appropriate fields determined less than 4 limbs makes person with BIID 'whole' (and that is what the patient wants), I would trust their judgement. That would ultimately be between the patient and their doctor.
Well if this sentence doesn't prove a point about left-tribe authority based epistemology nothing will.
First off, gender dysphoria is natural. Education about it is appropriate. As for the rest, no one is obligated. Everything is optional except for the consequences.
rofl, ok well then the so called "obsession" with fake genitals, education, pronouns of the right-tribe are the "consequences".
If amputees insisted that they had different pronouns, were a new species, had a right to defecate on the street, asked children if they would be happier with fewer limbsWhat a spectacular strawman.
What a mundane dodge. Analogies aren't strawmen.
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@SkepticalOne
Sex is not a social construct and even it doesn't fit into nice neat binary categories. That's the point.It fits as well as anything non-abstract can. When we say humans are tetrapods we don't mean every human has four limbs or even was born with four limbs.True. We also don't have legislation specifically targeting folks with less than 4 limbs.
We would certainly need legislation if a group of surgeons were performing amputations as "acts of mercy". That would not be legislation "targeting amputees" it would be legislation to minimize amputees.
On the other hand, not fitting into the sex/gender binary is controversial (to say the least).
No it isn't. None of the issues are about intersex, none of the issues are about people acting out different gender roles.
It's all about the notion that the 99% are obligated to change language, customs, education, and even dating habits to cater not to people with a natural deformity but to those who choose to deform themselves (or merely wish to).
If amputees insisted that they had different pronouns, were a new species, had a right to defecate on the street, asked children if they would be happier with fewer limbs, and had a band of so called doctors recommending amputation then the backlash and controversy would be identical or greater.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Forum advise #3: When the other guy's post is 100% fallacies or reassertions let them have the last word. There is no need to respond to someone calling you a clown.
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@SkepticalOne
Scale is hardly relevant. If it's only one, but a right the laws are wrong. If it's a hundred thousand but abuse, the laws are right.I agree. Any number of boys having their genitals mutilated (aka circumcized) without their consent is abhorrent.
Somehow I doubt you believe that.
If chromosomes are absolute...how do you think intersex people exist?Why pretend this matters when the trans cult won't accept any biological standard whatsoever? It's a "social construct" [...] when it needs to be.Sex is not a social construct and even it doesn't fit into nice neat binary categories. That's the point.
It fits as well as anything non-abstract can. When we say humans are tetrapods we don't mean every human has four limbs or even was born with four limbs. This is a joke as old as classical philosophy.
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@oromagi
Serious debaters use dictionaries so that everybody is talking about the same thing.
Serious debators don't pretend vague definitions like "political left" have precise definitions for the very purpose of equivocating.
The Daily WIre has been caught printing a lot of fake news, especially regarding the election, the pandemic, climate change.
lol
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@PREZ-HILTON
That's a more realistic prediction than most I've seen.
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So that the threat of insurrection is severe of course.[IwantRooseveltagain] So we are going to endure all these mass shootings, and watch all these children get murdered in their schools and other places, just in case we need to threaten the government with insurrection? Couldn’t we just be better citizens, pay attention and elect better people rather than be lazy, elect morons, thieves and blowhards like Trump, and then try to force them out with violence. Wouldn’t that make more sense?
To state the obvious:
A) you can't elect anyone better if the election system is vulnerable to asymmetric cheating.
B) A simple majority is no guarantee of morality, there should be a fear that even an armed minority; if pushed far enough, could do significant damage
C) The number of people who die in mass shootings is exceedingly small compared to other causes of death.
D) There are many more ways to kill people for the determined attacker
E) Outlawing guns will not prevent the acquisition of guns, thus mass murder will not end. At best they will be reduced or shift towards other vectors of attack.
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The woman was gender dysphoric
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[IwantRooseveltagain] And what is the reason it’s important for citizens to be allowed to own semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines?
So that the threat of insurrection is severe of course.
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@badger
Seems pretty black and white to me. Or red and blue in this case.
You are an IT simpleton.
- and creamy, but quite irrelevant.
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@SkepticalOne
Gender affirming medical treatment on minors is rare. From 2019 - 2021, less than 60 genital surgeries were performed.
Scale is hardly relevant. If it's only one, but a right the laws are wrong. If it's a hundred thousand but abuse, the laws are right.
No, I made exceptions for the genitalia part. Not the chromosome part. Every human is born with either male or female chromosomes. No exceptions.If chromosomes are absolute...how do you think intersex people exist?
Why pretend this matters when the trans cult won't accept any biological standard whatsoever? It's a "social construct" (and by society they mean them and not you the filthy transphobe) when it needs to be. When it comes to surgeries and hormone blockers biology is back to being relevant, but at no other times.
You plumb the depths of biological exception to no possible revelation.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Please don't take badger seriously on this, he hasn't a clue who watches how much porn of what type. Porn demand would hardly be a good excuse for performing mutilations on children in any case.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Maybe not that far LOL. For one they should be able to take a shit without having the camera on, plus how do you expect them to look the other way at people they walk in on fucking dogs, if they have a camera on ?
1) Privacy and unfalsifiable records are two different things (thanks to public private encryption algorithms).
The camera can record and simultaneously encrypt the data such that it can be verified that it was indeed on during a period while the key to actually view what happened requires a court order.
2.) Taking a shit is not executing official duties. If an arrest must happen during excretion the camera needs to be on.
3.) People who fuck dogs (or humans) shouldn't let cops into the house during coitus. It would be a good reminder to the citizen that there are no such things as off-the-record conversations with agents of the state. In fact having a guaranteed recording would increase the rationality of answering questions since there would be less fear that the cop is dirty and would lie about what was said.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Typically unbiased reporting I'm sure.They cut off the footage. That is a confession. Innocent people don't engage in cover ups bottom line
No public servant has any right to privacy while acting under color of law or duty. They should always be recorded in every way possible for every moment of their duty. Now that technology makes it possible to record their entire time on duty it should be mandatory to the point that if they ever enter a state of non-surveillance they lose all pretense of executing official duties.
i.e. they enter a house on an arrest warrant, and they turn off a shoulder cam, they just committed the crime of breaking and entering. They touch a person while the camera is off, they've just committed assault.
Anyone who disagrees is a police-state simp and a traitor to the ideals of the American revolution regardless of their professed intention.
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@YouFound_Lxam
The left loves to use the argument that people with gender dysphoria will die (commit suicide) if they don't get surgery and transition.But they fail to realize that less kids will suffer from this if you stop pushing the transgender movement. Less kids will have gender dysphoria the less you push it.
They also fail to mention all the people who will kill themselves at some point when they've realized they've sterilized themselves, rendered themselves unable to reach orgasm, reduced their potential pool of life-partners to a small fraction of what it might have been, messed with their body chemistry in a way that requires constant and sometimes painful & dangerous maintenance AND to top that all off, their parents and therapists encouraged them to do this; the very people who were meant to protect them from the confusions of youth.
It's already happened. It will keep happening.
The world is cruel, they make it more cruel by lying about the problems they can solve. They can't give you a new functioning body. They can only destroy parts of the one you have and fight the constant stream of RNA screaming "I'm a male/female so build this hormone or that protein".
Case closed, we can open it up again when they can transfer your consciousness to a clone of the opposite sex... except by that time they will almost certainly be able to pin down any biological causes of gender dysphoria.
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@Greyparrot
He's trying to imply democracy works retroactively so that he can make Biden extorting the removal of a Ukrainian prosecutor sound like some kind of heroic act instead of the blatant demand of a puppet-master hegemon to a client state.
He thinks by legitimizing the possible official motives for the bragged extortion it will cause anyone with two brain cells to rub together accept as a coincidence that the prosecutor was targeting a giant corrupt energy company that was paying Biden's son enormous amounts of money (some of which would be reserved for the big guy).
Unfortunately Double_Rs threshold is wrong. It might take a while but eventually those two brain cells will come to the inevitable conclusion that drug-addled, zero expertise, non-Ukrainian Hunter was collecting a money on behalf of his father. After you know that, the simplest explanation is quite clear.
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@Double_R
It's literally common sense.
What is common sense is that someone who has a lot to lose by claiming something has a strong counter-motivation to claim it. You assume one reason, I do not rule out any.
BREAKING NEWS: Cohen lied in oath to implicate Trump. Trump told the truth about not knowing about the Stormy Daniels payment.Trump already admitted he knew about the payment, his legal team is not even contesting this.
Fake News, Trump denied paying off Daniels, and still denies it. He now knows about the payment because Cohen told him about it after the fact.
You should be able to comprehend the idea that someone may come to learn something after the fact, you claimed that about Shokin targeting Biden.
Just because being under oath increases credibility doesn't mean everyone under oath is telling the truth.
Correct
Credibility is a spectrum.
A spectrum you do not own.
When you claimed the articles were not relevant, I explained why they are. You just pretended I didn't.
False, you just kept repeating the same unfounded leap. Every-time I forced you back to the facts it grew back into "everyone in the international community" again. Interest in repeating this cycle: 0%
The elected leader of Ukraine was just as corrupt huh? Yet that kind of implies that more than half of Ukraine agreed to his leadership and therefore Shokin... unless you're an election denier that is.Zelensky's entire campaign was built around an anti corruption platform in direct response to Porshenko's administration, and he won easily with over 70% of the vote. Tell me more about what the election results mean.
Biden just couldn't wait for that though could he?
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