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@Barney
The thing is, the bible states that most people go to hell. So not every road is the right one. Christians should figure out the bible for themselves and live by it.
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It seems as if there is something wrong with every church. The only true Christian died on the cross.
The Catholics, apart from doing something that I think is mary worship, have a sex abuse scandal that the pope does not much about.
The unitaritarians are too liberal for God. They are all about accepting sin, rather than rehabbing those who have done sinful things.
The evangelicals are too conservative for God. They reject undocumented immigrants, which is not very christian.
I think every Christian should be an independent Christian from a religious standpoint, so they can think for themselves on the bible.
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@zedvictor4
Pure socialism does fail. It eliminates incentive to work and be productive in society.
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@zedvictor4
Does a horse know anything?
Yes. If you have a functioning brain, you at least know something.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
If politicians are supporting the war on poverty that they know fails over something that gets them power, then that's pretty evil because they are causing millions to be poor just to keep power over them.
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It has been counterproductive to eliminating US poverty(https://theruggedindividualist.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/povert-rate.png). I tried to find a left leaning link, but they always leave out the previous downward trend.
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@bmdrocks21
It would be a big shift if I went from death penalty to Scandinavian justice, which doesn't even give life imprisonment for murder. I wouldn't exploit every human, just the murderers, the rapists, and parties responsible for abortion.
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I would like to see Greta Thumberg support nuclear power. She'd be more consistent that way.
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I don´t think the US should be funding Israel at all. Same with Saudi Arabia. We can get oil from Canada.
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@bmdrocks21
I don't think this is true. Otherwise, people on welfare would have like a dozen kids. They may have 3 which isn't too much but if they continuously made kids just for fun, they would have like a dozen kids, which very few people do.That's just not true. People on welfare in the US continuously have kids, even when they don't get extra benefits for doing so.
Well, rich people have less kids than poor people. Rich people are generally smarter than poor people, so I am not sure this will encourage them to have more kids.
Rich people produce less kids, but they adopt more kids, since most people like having kids around. These foster kids would be raised by rich people and would end up being successful themselves. My logic is:
If having only 1 parent is bad for kids because it´s hard for 1 parent
And if having 2 parents is good for kids
Then wouldn´t having 3+ parents be even better for the kid because they have more parents?
Yeah, but who pays for it?
The people getting the STDs treated should pay for their own STD treatment. I don´t think it´s too expensive.
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@Swagnarok
Poor men don´t rape and murder in order to acquire women.It made women into "prizes" for wealthy men to accumulate and hoard, it made poor men desperate enough to commit murder and rape as ways of life.
In societies where the crime rate is higher, this is because of poverty and not the legalization of polygamy. Moreover, Ethiopia, where polygamy is banned, has a comparable murder rate to the average of it's neighbors which have legalized polygamy. In western Africa, countries that banned polygamy have a higher murder rate than countries that legalized it. I don´t think rapes get reported enough worldwide to provide an accurate statistic on rape rates.
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https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ad_173236258.jpg?quality=80&strip=all(legality of polygamy)
You wanna force average men to choose between dying alone and becoming cold-blooded rapists?
The ladder almost never happens, otherwise rape rates would be through the roof in countries where polygamy is legal and common. Dying alone isin´t super different from dying with a partner, so a more accurate comparison would be choosing celibacy over being a rapist. If you don´t have a wife or GF, people choose celibacy.
At least you'll have succeeded in giving the finger to those Christian meanies who're out to spoil everyone's fun for no reason.
The bible has many examples of polygamy that God didn't punish, so polygamy is bible backed. Even if it wasn´t, we have separation of Church and state, so we can´t use bible law.
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@bmdrocks21
People know their limits. If your barely struggling to provide for children (the wife would probably help too), then you wouldn't take on more children.I could see it leading to poverty (providing for more spouses and children)
Also, you believe genetics affect intelligence levels and you want smarter people.
I think the main reason why smarter people produce smarter kids is because of how they are raised. A smart person raising 4 kids would be produce better offspring than a smart person raising 2 kids and a dumb person raising 2 kids because smart people can raise them better.
I don´t know how many people would be polygamous if it were allowed.
I don't see how this is any more effective than just making monogamous people get their STDs treated.
I want this and making polygamous people get their STDs treated. I don´t think you should have sex unless you are free of STDs.
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@HistoryBuff
I agree. Consent is key.But I would have a problem with someone marrying under the assumption that relationship is monogamous, then marrying again without the consent of their 1st partner.
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I think polygamy should be regulated in the US. BoP rests on those who wish to take people's freedom away.
The justification:
-It is religious freedom since some people's religion allows them to marry multiple people. Some non religious people would also do it because they want to.
-It is not for everybody, but it is for some people.
-It enables smarter people to marry more people, and as a result, they can produce smarter kids, making a better society not just from genetics, but because smarter people raise smarter kids by teaching them how to become smart.
-It can solve the STD epidemic in the US if we require polygamous people to get their STDs treated before they go polygamous. From there, if it greatly reduces STDs, then there would be less STDs as well as a huge creation of jobs because people would be treating the STDs.
-It requires the enthusiastic consent of all spouses.
Now onto rebuttals that I thought of:
-The claim that it would cause crime rates to go up. In societies where the crime rate is higher, this is because of poverty and not the legalization of polygamy. Moreover, Ethiopia, where polygamy is banned, has a comparable murder rate to the average of it's neighbors which have legalized polygamy. In western Africa, countries that banned polygamy have a higher murder rate than countries that legalized it.
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https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ad_173236258.jpg?quality=80&strip=all(legality of polygamy)
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@bmdrocks21
I thought they only had a pistol on them or were searching for a pistol, which I don't think even NY banned. It's certainly not worth getting shot over.
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@bmdrocks21
They were looking for weapons, and weapons are used in this type of crime, after all.
Our 2nd amendment allows for people to have weapons.
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@DebateArt.com
On the leaderboard, can you add a feature to where you can tell who's online just by looking at the leaderboard?
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The time magazine person of the year should be Donald Trump, and I´m not a Trump supporter. It´s Time MAGAzine. Like if you laughed.
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I'm unsure and have heard good arguments from both sides.
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I think the hottest person alive is someone burning because their body temperature is about double that of the average person, at least until the flame kills them.
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@bsh1
I plan on spending about 2 days here, and certainly no more than a week, at which point I will be permanently leaving.
You might come back. I would hope so. You are alright to have on the site in my book.
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@ethang5
How do you train for a troll?You are basically a troll, and I was trained for trolls like you.
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@TwoMan
Does that include a ban on murder? I think murder should be banned.
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@disgusted
Answer the question.
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@disgusted
What about South Korea and Japan? The US should be involved in these areas.
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@disgusted
Sometimes the US military is bad and sometimes they are good. We should pull out of some areas, but other areas we should be stationed in.
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@zedvictor4
The U.S. has made a pigs ear out off just about every invasion it has undertaken or instigated since WW2.
Some times when a US invasion led to the freedom of people:
-Nazi Germany
-South Korea
-Japan
Some military operations are bad, like in Iraq. But the US saves people too.
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@ethang5
Pick any position, and the liberal will side with the oppressor, the criminal, the killer, and death.Abortion?Sides with - the killer of defenseless babiesAgainst - Defenseless innocent babiesDeath Penalty?Sides with - The murdering criminalAgainst - The innocent victimImmigration?Sides with - The law breaking criminalAgainst - The law abiding citizenHomosexuality?Sides with - Disease and deathAgainst - Abstinence and lifeEuthanasia?Sides with - DeathAgainst - LifeIllegal Drugs?Sides with - Overdoses and deathAgainst - Sobriety and life.As I said, any position.
I´m pro life.
I´m against the death penalty because I prefer to make the murderer donate blood as much as feasible while being in jail for life, saving more lives.
I´m pretty sure open borders saves lives because of the hundreds of thousands of people that die due to borders. Let them get jobs.
Euthanasia is a choice. If someone wants to do it, let them do it.
Weed is a choice.
It´s less about life vs death as it is life vs freedom. As a libertarian, I value freedom for everyone. If someone wants to kill themselves, or wants to smoke weed, lets let them do it. It´s their body.
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@ethang5
Sorry for saying br. I guess that was a typo.
I´m Christian.
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@disgusted
You abuse the woman for cutting short a life and yet you praise a god for torturing an innocent soul for eternity.You need to check your priorities.
My idea of a punishment for abortion is the woman´s boyfriend/husband donates enough blood to save another life. If they can´t, then the burden falls upon the doctor.
God hopefully will defend himself in heaven as to why he burns those in hell. Gotta be patient. :)
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@ethang5
<br>You flip flop from what to what?
Christianity to atheism/agnosticism and vice versa.
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@Vader
This is the 21st century, so arguments can be said in memes.
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@rbelivb
Did you watch my Youtube channel? I did 3 of these videos there:
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@disgusted
@ebuc
This one describes either of you perfectly:
Like if you agree.
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@n8nrgmi
I guess castrated people don't go to heaven.
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@triangle.128k
I don't recall any right wingers getting banned for hate speech on the site. The only people I know that got banned for misconduct were type1 and mustardness, and they are left wing.
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@disgusted
Just take it by the hand down to your local school and commence it's education.
I learned it in school.
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@HistoryBuff
And trees are made of wood. But wood is not always a tree.
Wood is part of a tree, just like a leg is part of a human. Tree nuts are part of the tree, just like human eggs are part of the woman. But when the nut is fertilized, it is no longer part of the tree, it is a seperate tree, even if it were to somehow get nutrients from the original tree.
It has to be capable of living.
The consistency test applies. Unemployed people can´t live on their own; they need welfare. Do we kill them because they are dependant on the state? If not, why do we kill fetuses even if they were dependant on the mother? It may be a different type of dependency, but either way,
dependency is dependency. Whether dependent on someone´s body or someone´s money, it´s not worth the death penalty. You can´t be against the death penalty and pro choice at the same time because pro choicers want to sentence unwanted fetuses to death rather then support adoption for the kid.
That is how you interpret that term. But there is no way to know how the people who answered the question interpret it
If people are asked, ¨Would you consider yourself to be more pro life or pro choice?¨, people would respond according to their actual beliefs. It seems like a fair, unbiased question. It isn´t, ¨Do you support a woman´s right to choose¨ nor, ¨Do you value the sanctity of unborn life¨. It´s an unbiased question.
Abortions are going down because of things right wing people oppose. Family planning, sex education etc.
80% of pro lifers support the right to birth control, including myself, so the notion that the right opposes birth control is not accurate.
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