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Do you think that LGBT will accept pedophiles?
They most certainly will. The LBGTIQA+ movement is sponsored by pansexual Luciferians, who already practice pedophilia/pederasty behind closed doors. They've already involved children at very least in the optics of "sexual progressivism."
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@FLRW
You know that you are only made of atoms, don't you?
I know scientistss have described the composition of matter as being a composite of electrons, protons, and neutrons. What does this have to do with my response to your statement?
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@Kaitlyn
Racial hatred of White people has been called into question recently after poll showed alarming results.Black Americans were asked to agree or disagree with (1) It's okay to be White, and (2) Black people can be racist, too.BLACK AMERICANS ONLY:"It's okay to be white."53% agree, 26% disagree, 21% not sure"Black people can be racist, too"76% of agree, 27% disagree, 8% not sure.(tweet referencing the poll) Rasmussen Reports on Twitter: "BLACK AMERICANS ONLY: "It's okay to be white." 53% agree, 26% disagree, 21% not sure "Black people can be racist, too" 76% of agree, 27% disagree, 8% not sure." / Twitter ;(subscriber-walled origin) Questions - Okay To Be White - February 13-15, 2023 - Rasmussen Reports®This shocked and upset people like cartoonist Scott Adams, who wasn't expecting to encounter such racial hatred of White people (you can see his shocked reaction here) Episode 2027 Scott Adams: AI Goes Woke, I Accidentally Joined A Hate Group, Trump, Policing Schools - YouTube . This inspired him to write a Dilbert comic that got him kind of cancelled Dilbert comic strip dropped after a racist rant by creator Scott Adams : NPR .What do you think?Is it okay to be White?
Why should anyone concern oneself with what so-called "Black" Americans think of one's being so-called "White"? No one should, for lack of better terms, "want to be" so-called "White." "White" is not a race; "White" is not a culture; "White" is not even a tribe; it's a government designation just like "Black" "Asian" "Hispanic," etc. are.
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@FLRW
The hereditary link of homosexuality has long been established,
No, it hasn't.
but scientists knew it was not a strictly genetic link,
It's not a genetic link.
because there are many pairs of identical twins who have differing sexualities.
Exactly. So explain to me how scientists have controlled for the genetic content or factors that strictly result in homosexual attraction and/or behavior.
Scientists from the National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis say homosexuality seems to have an epigenetic, not a genetic link.
Seem is not an argument; it does not belong in scientific lexicon. That should have been your first red flag.
Long thought to have some sort of hereditary link, a group of scientists have suggested that homosexuality is linked to epi-marks — extra layers of information that control how certain genes are expressed.
How have they controlled for these epi-marks?
"There is compelling evidence that epi-marks contribute to both the similarity and dissimilarity of family members and can therefore feasibly contribute to the observed familial inheritance of homosexuality and its low concordance between [identical] twins," Rice notes.Rice and his team created a mathematical model that explains why homosexuality is passed through epi-marks, not genetics. Evolutionarily speaking, if homosexuality was solely a genetic trait, scientists would expect the trait to eventually disappear because homosexuals wouldn't be expected to reproduce. But because these epi-marks provide an evolutionary advantage for the parents of homosexuals: They protect fathers of homosexuals from underexposure to testosterone and mothers of homosexuals from overexposure to testosterone while they are in gestation."
Mathematical models which do not control for "incidence" as opposed to designated appearance. These scientists would have to demonstrate how these epi-marks result--not contribute by correlation or "concordance"--in the expression of homosexual attraction and/or behavior.
Though scientists have long suspected some sort of genetic link, Rice says studies attempting to explain why people are gay have been few and far between.
The reason scientists have conducted few and far between studies attempting to explain the reason homosexuals are gay because they're not psychics, and they never will be.
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@Best.Korea
Attraction doesnt seem like a choice. I mean, if it was a choice, person could change it any time a person chooses. However, it just seems impossible to change an attraction by choice.
The subject of choice is essentially futile. It doesn't matter whether there's a choice or not.
Acting on an attraction is a choice, of course. Therefore, when homosexual man chooses to act on his attraction, that is choice.
Acting on attraction comprises, at least in part, one's sexuality.
Now, Bible tells us not to judge, not to seek revenge and to love everyone. That is what The New Testament is about.That doesnt mean that we cannot tell homosexuals who engage in homosexual acts that what they are doing is wrong and that God will punish them for it.Attraction is not a choice. Action is.
This exemplifies that which many don't understand: the Bible condemns the action, not the attraction necessarily.
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@Tradesecret
There are ample explanations on the internet that you could research. https://lifehopeandtruth.com/life/plan-of-salvation/holy-days-vs-holidays/sign-of-jonah/3-days-and-3-nights/ or https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/crux.cfm is another.
It does not do well to apologize for poor or misleading interpretations.
Personally, I don't think it was ever meant to be a literal understanding. It was more of a dictum. See Hosea 6:2 or the Midrash teaching on Genesis 42:17. The point is Jesus died, and was buried. And then rose again from the dead.
What does its being a dictum or your personal opinion have to do with what Jesus, himself, said?
I'm not sure of your point. The church has celebrated from very early that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, or as it is sometimes known, the 8th day.
Which would start on Saturday Evening. Just like Passover--your reference, not mine--starts in the evening.
Well again, yes you are wrong.
What am I wrong about?
Like most religions back then - the lunar calendar was supreme. Every religion pretty much celebrated on that date. Hence, why I say coincidence. The Christians followed the Passover date. Just because you have gods venerated on the same date does not invalidate the Christian teaching. Your reasoning is arrogant and presumptuous.
My point is not to invalidate Christian teachings; my point is to provide you with the tools to distinguish between Christian teachings and pagan rituals. There's no biblical reference whatsoever to "Easter Sunday" or "eggs" or "bunnies" as it concerned Jesus's death and resurrection. There's also no directive to commemorate Jesus's resurrection. This is not "arrogance" or "presumption"; I've read the Bible in its entirety several times, so if you have a dispute, please submit the appropriate biblical reference, and refrain from Catholic or Protestant "catechism."
Nothing you have said proves your point.
Actually it does. We know that Good Friday to Easter Sunday does NOT amount to three days and three nights. We also know that Jesus did not resurrect on what we know today as "Sunday." We know of the pagan holidays that follow the vernal equinox. We know of the origin of the name Easter. We know that bunnies and eggs are not associated with Jesus, but with the mother Goddess in her Celtic, Greek, Sumerian, Semitic, Egyptian, etc. incarnations. It is not a "coincidence" that the Roman (Catholic) Church has conflated celebration of the mother goddess and her divine son/lover with the concept Jesus's resurrection.
Your argument seems to be - all of these previous religions celebrated on this date, therefore everyone after the event is simply following. That is very weak and thin.
My arguments never "seem." My arguments always explicitly state; and I did not explicitly state what you've claimed. My argument states this: many of these religious celebrations especially in April are associated with convoluted and often misleading interpretations so that Luciferians can pervert these celebrations with their pagan rituals.
And while the papacy might have weird ideas
Weird? The papacy has institutionalized pederasty; endorsed homosexuality and transexuality; names the resurrection after Celtic/Sumerian goddess; Celebrates "the birth of Jesus" on the same day as the birth/reincarnation of the Sun God; and embodies everything against which Jesus stood, and your assessment is that it's "weird"?
Who says there is no biblical stipulation?
There isn't any. Please make reference to it, and I'll stand corrected.
Some people do this - so what?
And I just told you "so what?" They are being prompted to inadvertently indulge pagan rituals.
Not all, and probably not even most.
Since the majority of the Christian population is Catholic, wouldn't it be most?
And so that is why we need to explore it thoroughly.
Exactly. My perspective is from a non-denominational standpoint, while yours is writhe with protestant catechism and apologism.
I'm not catholic.
Never stated that you were; that does not suggest however that Protestants are without their pagan rituals.
I have researched widely.
Not enough. Research the Babylonian-Kemetic mysteries as well as the Elusinian mysteries; Research Sumerian, Kemetic/Egyptian, Celtic, Semitic, Estruscan, Greek/Roman, Russian, Chinese/Japanese, Mexican mythologies; research ancient and neo-paganism; research Buddhism and Hinduism; research Luciferianism, Satanism and Free Masonry. There are forces attempting to pervert your Christianity; I'm merely trying to bring them to your attention.
I can see your research is distorted and incomplete. Perhaps you should read wider.
If you believe I have a blind spot, point me in the right direction.
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@Greyparrot
Overall, Friedman believed that the government's focus on criminalizing drug use was not only ineffective but also a violation of individual freedom. He argued that individuals should have the right to make their own decisions about drug use, as long as they did not harm others in the process.
This should be protocol for all social interaction. Because individual freedom is fundamental to a "free society"; anything short is just a pretense.
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@Greyparrot
“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer.”
Blackstone's Principle.
“the law holds that it is better that 40,000 guilty guns escape, than that 450,000,000 innocent guns suffer.”
I'm just waiting for someone to soundly argue the reason lawful use of firearms merits penalty as a result of its criminal use.
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@zedvictor4
Which came first the Pagan or the Christian?
What are you attempting to illustrate with your appeal to antiquity?
And so surprise surprise J became a symbol of resurrection.And now we have consumerism, rebranding Easter and selling us a different message.
Aren't you arguing that it's the "same" message, if we are to assume that your allegation that Christianity's concept of Jesus's resurrection was gleaned from paganism?
Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend Athias.
I'm not a pagan. And chocolate eggs are not part of a good diet. So I will be abstaining from this weekend's festivities.
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@Tradesecret
Jesus died, I think most likely on Friday, the day before the weekly Sabbath.
Please explain how the difference in days between Friday and Sunday morning amount to "three days and three nights" after he was entombed.
It is possible that he died either on Wednesday or Thursday since that week also contained a different Sabbath, that of the Passover.
Please explain how the difference in days between Wednesday and Sunday morning amount to "three days and three nights" after he was entombed.
Jesus rose from the dead either on Sunday morning or Saturday. The disciples attended early Sunday Morning and it appears Jesus was hanging around at the graveside.
The large stone entombing Jesus was discovered to have been moved Sunday morning while it was still dark. Jesus himself stated when he would resurrect, and it wasn't Sunday morning.
No, you are incorrect. This period of time is to do with Christ dying and being raised from the dead.
No, I'm not. This period as I've said before is in veneration of the Mother Goddess. Starting with the Vernal Equinox (a.k.a. beginning of "Spring") to April Fools Day, also known as "Hiliaria" (the origin of the term, "hilarious") which was Cybele's tribute to her son and lover, Attis; then you have "Palm Sunday" which is not in reference to the Palm branches paving the way for Jesus, but instead for Myrrah and her son Adonis. Then you have "Good Friday" which is in veneration of "Friggs" or "Freyja" the goddess after whom the day "Friday" itself is named. But all these mother goddesses are essentially the same whether its Juno, Aphrodite, Isis, Hathor, Aset, Ishtar, Astarte, Eostre, Maia, Cybele, Demeter, Myrrah, Freyja, Friggs, Columbia, Inanna, Ashera, Semiramis, Rhea, Gaia, etc. They all represent the same thing in the Luciferian triune of the horned God, the Mother Goddess, and the Divine Son. Even the month of April is named for Aphrodite/Eostre. Then you'll have "Earth Week" which will soon follow Easter. That's because the "Mother Goddess" and the "Divine Son" are associated with vegetation. (Earth Week has nothing to do with "saving the planet.") And then the month ends with the night of "Walpurgis" which commemorates "Beltane" which extends to the first of May (named for the goddess Maia) that venerates "Bel" or "Ba'al."
In essence, none of this has anything to do with Jesus or his resurrection. They (Luciferians) merely use it as a cover to have the masses indulge their rituals.
The fact that other religions celebrated their gods at the same time is nothing more than coincidence. Just like my birthday being on the same day as my cousins is nothing more than a coincidence.
It's not a coincidence. The pope, who still refers to himself in accordance to pagan rite as "pontifex maximus" should be aware of these pagan rituals, as well as the inconsistency with the timeline of "Good Friday" and Jesus resurrection. He's not oblivious to these "coincidences"; he's confederate in them.
And while it is true that the Catholic church celebrated this celebration at the same time and perhaps brought other pagan celebrations into join with it, possibly the work of the empire state system rather than the church, it doesn't reduce the Christian celebration one iota.
It does if there's no Biblical stipulation to indulge these rituals.
And while I do find it offensive that so many people label it Easter,
And many Christians refer to it as Easter, and embrace the label; not just the label, but the bunnies and eggs (which have nothing to do with Jesus, but with the mother goddess) yet bear no questions as to the reasons Roman Catholicisms push the concept on Christians.
Nevertheless, most people in the society we live would are not church people who would not understand Resurrection Day but would know it as Easter.
And that's the point. As it concerns the Abrahamic religions, there's the "right-hand" interpretation, and there's the "sinister" interpretation (e.g. those who liken Osiris or Heru to Jesus.) These pagan conflations, and transformations of holy commemorations are meant to pervert it.
Yet no church that I am aware of would ever see it as anything other than the death and resurrection of Christ.
What about the Catholic Church?
I'm not attempting to insinuate that you are "less" Christian; but I can only presume that many Christians, including yourself, are only aware of the right-hand interpretation of these rituals as opposed the "left-hand" or "sinister" interpretation. And you do your adherence a disservice by not educating yourself on both. You don't have to take my word -- do your own research into the subject (that should be protocol for everyone.)
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@YouFound_Lxam
This argument is not including any rape, or [incestuous] incidents, only consensual sex incidents protection or not.
Then your argument has already been undermined. Consent or incest doesn't qualify whether an abortion is, as you allege, a "human sacrifice." They merely present circumstances under which you believe it's PERMISSIBLE to carry out a "human sacrifice."
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@zedvictor4
It's good because there are only two days to go until Chocolate Egg Day.
Ask yourself: what the H-E-double-hockey-sticks do "Easter Bunnies" and "Easter Eggs" have to do with Jesus Christ, much more, his death?
The bunny/rabbit is a symbol of fertility, and typically associated with the mother goddess, who in one of her incarnations is known as the goddess of sex and fertility. I know you're mocking Easter as "Chocolate Egg Day," but you're not actually mocking the concept of Jesus's resurrection--only the pagan rituals that use it as a disguise.
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@Tradesecret
It does seem odd that the holiest day of the year for the Christian, Good Friday, which remembers Jesus, dying on a cross, is called good.
Jesus did not die on the cross on Friday.
Surely it would make better sense to call it Black Friday whilst celebrating his resurrection on the Sunday.
Jesus wasn't resurrected on Sunday.
I am not asking this question because I don't know the traditional church explanation, I am asking to begin a dialogue with people who might also have asked this question.
Because this period isn't meant to remember the death of Christ; it's to inadvertently venerate the mother goddess, whether it be Juno, Cybele, Columbia, Aphrodite, Eostre, Ishtar, Astarte, Inanna, Isis, Hathor, etc. That's the reason it's venerated as "Good" as opposed to "Black."
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@FLRW
Donald Trump, 2005: “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
And who were the referents when the Donald made these remarks? Second, what the H-E-double-hockey-sticks does Donald Trump have to do with this? Or is it your intention to provide some shallow reciprocation when some so-called "left-wing" politician is being scrutinized?
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@DavidAZ
There is a montage out there that shows a lot of his hair sniffing and groping too, but don't know if it's on YT or not.
Greyparrot (in Post #3) posts reference to a Radiohead's parody song, which displays the montage of which you speak.
This guy is clearly a disgusting person but maybe that's why his base loves him.
No, they're just politically ideological hypocrites.
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@b9_ntt
No one’s rights are absolute.
Rights are fundamental and inalienable irrespective of public referendum. You either acknowledge that, or presume to undermine it.
In a large, complex society, there will be conflicts.
There are conflicts among individuals. Conflict is imminent.
That must be adjudicated somehow.
Rights PRECEDE adjudications, NOT SUCCEED them.
Well, then you are an extremist, and unfit for the society we live in.
And yet, I'm here.
That’s a straw man.
No, it's not. If you intend to create a substantial distinction between civilian and government use, I'd like to read it.
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@Skipper_Sr
Imagine this that Justin Bieber visited the Holocaust museum and wrote in the visitation journal that "Anne Frank must have been a Belieber." True story
I know. He was roasted by Jeff Ross for his statement during his comedy central roast.
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@Greyparrot
Maybe that's because bans never worked ever on anything. if people really want something and have the means to get it, they will. I'm sure Soros has a few nukes tucked away just in case.
Because the basis for "public opinion" as it concerns imposing these bans are never really logical, much less practical. They're almost always based on volatile emotions. In this case, hoplophobia.
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@Sidewalker
You don't have to be, they wrote the scripts for your conditioned responses.
By whom or what was I conditioned? I've never paid much attention to the NRA, so how'd they get to me?
I’m likening your conditioned responsesto the conditioned responses of Ivan Pavlov’s dogs,'
Dogs are opposed to gun-control? Who knew?
so yeah, indirectly, I suppose I am.
Well at least you've owned it. But this is where my participation in an exchange with you ends. I'm not interested in trading insults, so find another outlet. Enjoy your night, sir.
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@sadolite
It is not a "right" if it's subject to exogenous limitations. When the right was established there were no exogenous limitations attached to it. It was only later that people with no regard for the constitution or peoples rights were they added. There were no restrictions on owning a firearm. It "WAS" a right that was taken away.
It's funny: regulations and prohibitions have only increased over the years, yet exposure and prominence of these mass-shootings have also increased. So you know... rotten... Denmark... and all that.
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@Skipper_Sr
You put "Love Yourself" by Justin Bieber in Rhythm & Blues. Lol
Why not?! Are you disrespecting the Biebs?!
Ca-Caw! BELIEBERS, UNITE! I've found an infidel!
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@Sidewalker
Post #176 is in response to your statements.
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@Greyparrot
Here we go again explaining, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for the thousandth time....
The concept of private property is lost on fascists.
Or we could just sit still when the execution squads go door to door because of "trust."
Haha! Well said.
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Oh pulease, do gun people actually think about what they say or is it all just the NRA's Pavlovian trained dog replies?.
First, I'm not a member of the NRA. Second, are you likening me to a dog?
A firearm is a single purpose tool,
No it isn't.
and that tool is designed to do one and only one thing, kill,
It's actually designed to discharge projectiles known as bullets. Whether these bullet cause fatal injury is primarily dependent on the actions of the user.
calling it the "ordinary civilian use of firearms" is a lame intellectual dodge of the issue, nothing but a distraction.
So, is it your position that ALL USE of firearms is CRIMINAL USE? If so, explain.
Do you seriously believe it shouldn't matter how such a tool is used?
Yes. I could kill you with a hammer; a knife; a pen; box cutter; a bat; even a pillow. If capacity to be used in fatal injury must dictate access, then why not ban the aforementioned?
Generally speaking, it is unlawful to kill people,
Why does that not dictate accountability as opposed to holding everyone accountable, lawful use or not?
and that's the only thing a firearm does
That's not the only thing.
you really can't connect the dots as to why the vast number of illegal deaths merits consideration?
Why does the "vast number" of illegal deaths warrant penalizing LAWFUL USE? You're not answering my question: why does ordinary civilian use of firearms MERIT PENALTY AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE CRIMINAL USE OF FIREARMS?
I'm thinking that trumps the rights of the hobbyist who loses his right to target practice, or hunt,
Oh? So there is another purpose when using firearms?
or whatever legal use that the gun culture is saying is worth so many thousands of lives.
And these hobbyists are setting out in droves killing thousands of people? Care to explain how you've reached this conclusion (some empirical data would be nice, as well.)
The fact is, the real "ordinary civilian use of firearms", the reason people buy them, is they want to have the ability to kill someone,
And I presume you've spoken to every individual who has purchased a firearm about their intentions with owning, possessing, and operating said firearm? I have firearms. Do I want to kill? And keep in mind, you know better than I do what I want.
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@Sidewalker
The real question is:Why do you think about black-washing anime characters?It's a mystery.
Brilliant!
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@Bella3sp
Self explanatory, what do you think about black-washing anime characters?Personally I believe it's taking away the representation of Asian culture. It doesn't matter how much you want to see someone who is of color.A common character I see that is black-washed is Izuku Midoriya, also known as Deku. He is a character from My Hero Academia and the protagonist. 'Everyone' seems to get offended when someone white-washes a character but not black-washing? They all tend to turn a blind eye. Funny. You will most likely not see anyone make a part two of any movie from the main character going black to white. Everyone would go nuts. "Oh my god, they are racist, they made him white in movie two!"What's the difference? If you take away someones representation but get offended at the other you are a hypocrite.
I have a problem with washing characters when it panders to the identitarian fringe who inexplicably dictate the narrative surrounding "representation." I didn't for example have a problem when ScarJo was cast as Motoko Kusanagi for the live-action adaptation of "Ghost in the Shell" because at the time, she was at the height of her acting career, and she would draw much attention to the film. Of course, many of the self-proclaimed "anime faithful" expressed their ire at the thought that a so-called "white" woman would replace a Japanese character. They obviously paid little attention to the core themes of the series, much less the character especially considering that "the Major's" origin is mostly unknown. The only real glimpse we get into her origin was in the 11th episode of GITS 2nd GIG, "Affection" (a.k.a. "Kusanagi's Labyrinth") which does not make it clear that she's Japanese. One would think that so-called "race" would be a moot point in a series that delved heavily into transhumanism. An identical ire was expressed when Mustafa Shakir, a so-called "Black" actor, was cast as Jet in the Cowboy Bebop live-action adaptation. This never bothered me because the original dub of the 1998 anime consisted of Jet Black's character being voiced by a so-called "Black" man.
Here's the thing, the Japanese have washed characters, too. As it was hilariously pointed out me, Spike Spiegel, Eren Yeager, Edward and Alphonse Elric are German characters. And three of those characters have Japanese-washed in Live-Action adaptations. And that's because the studios who are releasing these films are first and foremost trying to generate commerce within their markets.
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@RationalMadman
Um... my mother doesn't have a boyfriend; she has a husband, who happens to be my father. Am I disqualified from responding?
All kidding aside, this is all part of a Hegelian Dialectic--creating problems so one can "engineer" or "synthesize" solutions. And the reason they convey that against which they stand as opposed to that for which they stand is that ultimately, they don't don't have the power to stand up for anything. Because they've ceded their authority to cyclical rabble rousing and specious political narratives. And to boot, politicians thrive on this dynamic.
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@Greyparrot
What's funny is that an engineered virus killed more people than all the nuclear bombs and guns in the last century, But we can skip over THOSE controls....
Well stated.
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@badger
Yes I have.
No, you haven't. Not comprehensively, at least.
You asked why you shouldn't be allowed have weapons of mass destruction
I did, did I? Quote me. (You don't actually have to, because I know I didn't "ask.")
I gave a very clear and sensible reason why not.
No, you didn't. Nor was it in response to the question I posed.
You were just too busy about your all caps'ing and bolding to read it and understand it.
The case in which I submit my words have no bearing on the subject over which we dispute.
Because people being allowed to own weapons of mass destruction means their use. No matter how you plan or promise to use them, you can make no assurances about the next guy.
Once again this hearkens back to your sense of "trust." As I've already informed you, one's capacity to possess, own, and operate a firearm is not contingent on your "trust."
Your belligerent style of writing matters not a fuck alongside that reality.
Belligerent? I'm not the one cursing. I do not use CAPS or bold for "belligerence"; I use them for EMPHASIS. I bear no interest in expressing any type of emotion as it concerns subjects like this one, so it would make little sense for me to engage "belligerence." Perhaps, you're projecting?
Anyway, I've entertained this long enough. Respond all you want, but I will not respond back. Enjoy the rest of your day, sir.
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@Skipper_Sr
Share suggestions or favorites you have. I may broadcast a link if I feel like my content is worth viewing by others
How good are you?
Classical:
Impromptu Fantasie by Frédéric Chopin
Prelude in C♯ Minor by Sergei Racmaninoff
Moment Musicaux Opus 16 No. 4 in E Minor by Sergei Rachmaninoff
Impromptu Opus 90 No. 2 by Franz Schubert
Jazz:
Too Marvelous for Words by Art Tatum
What Is This Thing Called Love by Art Tatum
I'm in the Mood for Love by Erroll Garner
Cakewalk by Oscar Peterson
Gospel:
Order My Steps by Glenn Edward Burleigh
Great Is Your Mercy by Donnie McClurkin
Tomorrow by Carvin Winans
Never Would Have Made It by Marvin Sapp
Rhythm & Blues:
Where I Wanna Be by Donnel Jones
Love by Musiq Soulchild
Ordinary People by John Legend
Love Yourself by Justin Bieber
Pop and Rock:
I Don't Wanna Be by Gavin Degraw
Love Song by Sara Bareilles
Don't Stop Believin by Journey
A Thousand Miles by Vanessa Carlton
Country:
With a Little Help From My Friends by Joe Cocker
A Love Song by Kenny Loggins & Jim Messina
Bless the Broken Road by Rascal Flatts
Tennessee Whiskey by Dean Dillon & Linda Hargrove
Rap:
I Ain't Mad at Cha by Tupac
All Night by Big Boi
Big Poppa by Notorious BIG
Gangster's Paradise by Coolio
Dead Right by Psyche Origami
And yes, I expect you play them ALL in order.
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I've been stating it for some time now. The first thread I created was in reference to Joe Biden's being a paedophile. And it's not just paedophilia; it's ritual child sacrifices (to appease their god, Molech); cannibalism (in veneration of Ba'al); bestiality (especially with goats in veneration of the baphomet.) For these individuals to reach positions of prominence, they have to engage degeneracy behind closed doors. Think "Eyes Wide Shut" meets "Rosemary's Baby," for those of you who understand the references.
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@badger
I have very clearly answered your question.
No, you haven't. But that's fine. I'm not particularly interested in engaging this exchange beyond this point.
So Athias thinks we should all have nuclear bombs.
Yep, that's clearly what I stated.
Why don't you actually read your reference?
You can be as non-responsive as you intend; after all, that is your prerogative. But don't expect me to extend a courtesy to you that you have refused to extend to me. Have a nice day, sir.
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@Double_R
In any situation where a death would not have occurred if not for the presence of a gun, how do the decisions of those involved grossly supercede the presence of the gun?
The problem with this question is that it presumed a death would not have a occurred if not for the presence of a gun. One does not need a gun to kill; it's as simple as that. Don't tell me that you maintain the position that a gun makes one kill.
No.Is that enough clarification for you to address the question?
Your clarification should have allowed you to glean my response. Since you've conceded that the bomb neither armed nor detonated on its own, then YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE for the lives you've taken. I'm not going to place blame on the bomb, which was merely a means.
That's irrelevant to what we're talking about.
No, it's not. One of the leading causes of death, at least here in the United States, are car accidents. You asserted that a driver's license specifically addresses the car as a factor in any car accident. So I ask once again: how many car accidents involve LICENSED DRIVERS?
You asked me if we blame the car in auto accidents, I pointed out that we do in fact recognize the role an automobile plays in car accident deaths.
No, you attempted to assert how the acquisition of a license addresses the role a car plays in auto-accidents as a built-in mechanism. This clearly makes no sense since it is the individual who's acquiring the license being tested--a test so lax, that even a 15 year-old can pass easily.
Our attempt to minimize this includes requiring licenses before we permit someone to get behind the wheel.
Which has more to do with the individual than the car.
I didn't "create" the scenario.
Yes, you did.
This actually does happen in real life
Irrelevant. I'm not disputing "real life" inspiration.
5 year olds getting stabbed or choked to death by another 5 year old doesn't.
Yes it does. Maybe not specifically two five year-olds (I would have to check,) but there have been children who choked or stabbed other children.
Because killing someone else with a knife, bare hands, or pretty much any other weapon takes effort and intent.
Not necessarily.
With a gun all it takes is carelessness.
What about Lionel Tate? He killed a six year-old girl with whom he was playing. He was trying out wrestling moves which resulted in brutally battering the young girl, subsequently leaving the girl dead. Was that intentional or careless? Do we ban or prohibit the WWE, NXT, or AEW?
That's why we treat these things differently, or at least we would in any other situation, except when it's a gun.
You treat them differently because the basis of your divisions are essentially arbitrary. They're not based in anything logical or consistent.
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@b9_ntt
You are overgeneralizing our position.
Actually, I'm not.
Everyone has the right to bear "arms."
It is not a "right" if it's subject to exogenous limitations. That of which you speak is merely a "privilege" extended by government.
Does everyone have a right bear any weapon whatsoever? If the answer is no, then you have to decide where to draw the line between arms which are permitted and those which are not permitted.
There should be no line drawn. That's the point. The weapon is merely an inanimate object that is used by someone.
A nuclear weapon? No. A tank? No. Where then?
People already own and possess nuclear weapons and tanks. Some of them are referred to as members of government. And the irony is that governments have a higher body count than anyone. The U.S. for example detonated two atomic bombs on civilian populations, among which a number of U.S. COMBATANTS WERE PRESENT. (Yes, that's right--the U.S. government, which shouldn't come as a surprise, murdered not only about a quarter-million people, but also U.S. combatants over whom it presided.) And you think this organization should dictate, let alone regulate which arms one can bear?
They allow maniacs to kill many people in a short period of time.
Both you and RationalMadman have made reference to the speed in which a firearm can be used to murder individuals. Presumably because the more efficiently people are supposedly murdered, the worse the circumstances surrounding their hypothetical deaths become? Why does this matter? If I were so inclined, I could kill 10 people right now with a box cutter before I, presumably, get caught. Average police response time is about seven minutes, so that would give me 42 seconds to kill 10 individuals. If I use one of my firearms, I could clear a better time, or target more individuals, but that doesn't change anything. I'd still be murdering people.
They should be outlawed outside the military. Law abiding citizens could still arm themselves with non-automatic weapons. Why is that such a terrible idea?
You haven't justified the reason it's a good idea. What have law-abiding citizens done that they warrant a limitation to their "right to bear arms"? Why are they accountable for the actions of criminals?
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@badger
It is a weapon designed to kill human beings being used often and with great success to kill human beings. Why should I trust you to own such a thing? Why should your society pay the obvious horrific cost of your being allowed to own it?
You haven't answered my question. Pay attention carefully: why does ordinary civilian use of firearms MERIT PENALTY AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE CRIMINAL USE OF FIREARMS?
I'm not asking whether you "trust" anyone to possess, own, and operate a firearm, which has absolutely no bearing on a person's capacity to possess, own, and operate a firearm. As I told Double_R, I possess and own firearms which as of yet has not resulted in the "horrific costs" to society. You're clearly holding non-criminal civilians accountable for the criminal use of firearms. I'm requesting that you, as well as the others, to provide reasoning which substantiates this effect.
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Why does ordinary civilian use of firearms merit penalty as a consequence of the criminal use of firearms?
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@PREZ-HILTON
I believe I pointed out that an abnormal behavior is only considered a mental illness when it is followed by negative life consequences. You then went on to say that being rejected is a behavior and then you went into depression which is not a behavior whether it is classified as a mental illness or not. I think our communication with each other hasn't been clear and my method for clearing up misunderstandings is apparently not very good
I pointed out that the DSM-V, the APA, or any psychiatrist for that matter has yet to find a biochemical, neurological, or chemical basis for what they have introduced into medical lexicon as "mental illness." I'm not attempting to parse that among which, whether it be rejection, sadness, grief, Gender Dysphoria etc, is a "mental illness." My point is that none of them are (mental) illnesses because they are not pathological. The fact that these associated "negative consequences" are determined through peer consensus should convey that there's no medical basis for what they determine as "illness" and what they determine as "disorder."
What illness do you know of stops being an illness because of political reasons?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Sadness and grief is not a behavior, it is something you experience.
What is the significance in this distinction?
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@Double_R
If a toy is shown to be involved in excessive choking incidents, we recall the toy. No one would argue this is "holding the toy accountable".
Yes, actually, that would be holding the toy accountable since the consequence is "recalling the toy" and not charging the manufacturers with criminal negligence.
As I already explained, no gun safety advocate pretends that gun deaths occur without a person somehow involved. But gun advocates love to pretend the gun is not part of the equation.
Gun advocates don't "pretend" that the gun does not factor into the equation; gun advocates acknowledge that a person's decision GROSSLY SUPERSEDES ANY FACTORS WHICH DON'T MATTER UNLESS THE PERSON'S INVOLVED.
Let's try a simpler version; if it were legal for me to own a nuclear weapon and I purchased one, then used it to destroy my entire city, would you argue that the millions of deaths which resulted were merely "a person killing people" or would you recognize that the presence of a nuclear weapon was the problem?
Did the bomb arm itself? Did it detonate on its own?
Yes, that's why we require people to get drivers licenses before they can legally drive
And how many accidents involve LICENSED drivers?
because we recognize that the danger posed by having the wrong person behind the wheel of a car is far greater than the person by themself.
Please explain how the process of acquiring a Driver's License excludes "the wrong person."
You act as if the scenario I created is entirely made up with no connection to reality. It's not. Children do end up getting their hands on guns and accidentally killing others.That aside, the purpose of any hypothetical is not to paint a picture of the world, it's to test one's logic. If the logic of "guns don't kill people" held up then there is nothing to pin as "sophistry".
The sophistry stems from your attempt at conflating the involvement of an inanimate object with that object's accountability. We are not disputing whether the use of firearms was involved in a scenario purposefully created to highlight firearm use (e.g. getting shot.)
This is really simple; in this scenario a child is dead whereas without a gun in the picture today child would be alive.
Because, once again, you created a scenario where the child dies as a result of being shot. If the scenario consisted of that child dying as a result of being stabbed, or choked, then we'd acknowledge the knife use and the use of one's hands as painfully obvious.
The conclusion is simple; guns do kill people.
I possess and own firearms. They've never been involved in the accidental or intentional death of anyone. Since they haven't killed anyone, are they not guns, as a result? Your conclusion is flawed.
You can make whatever argument you want to pretend that's not actuate, but you would have to abandon the same basic logic you would apply to any other scenario.
Feel free to test the basic logic of arguments. I can assure you that they are consistent.
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@Lemming
Psychology often looks a soft science in a number of areas to me (Currently), but,
It very much is. Hence, I am hypercritical when it's conflated with hard sciences and/or used in conjunction with hard sciences, e.g. genetics and genomics.
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@PREZ-HILTON
rejection is not abnormal behavior.
Neither is sadness or grief, and yet a group of psychiatric "peers" can label one "mentally ill"--and medicate as a result--because of the aforementioned.
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@Best.Korea
Mass murderer has a gun = bad for usMass murderer doesnt have a gun = now we are safePeople have historically demonstrated that knives, bombs, cars and poisons can kill plenty of people even if you somehow succeed in removing all the illegal guns.
Well stated.
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@RationalMadman
These same nutjobs will then say 'give them any weapon they want, they will kill anyway' not realising someone can kill a lot more people with a gun than with a knife or baseball bat.
What difference does that make?
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@Double_R
No one is claiming the gun should be held accountable.
Aren't you?
The idea being pushed by this talking point is that the presence of guns is irrelevant, if someone ends up dead only the people involved should be factored into the equation.
Yes, that's what's called accountability. Because the use of firearms in a violent altercation DOES NOT HAPPEN without the people involved. Once again, guns are inanimate objects. Case in point: if by some chance I were involved in a car accident that resulted in the death of another, do you factor my car into the equation? Maybe. If my car's malfunction led to the circumstances which informed the accident, but even then the manufacturers would be held accountable.
In this scenario, without the gun being in the picture, no one ends up dead. Do you deny this? Would you argue that the child shot to death would have ended up dead another way regardless?
This is pure sophistry. You purposefully created a hypothetical where a child dies as a result of being shot. So obviously, I cannot "deny" that the child in your scenario died as a result of another child's firearm use. And if you're not holding the child gunman accountable, then you're obviously holding the gun accountable, which you denied. It is also obvious, which I presume you acknowledge, that there are many hypothetical scenarios we can indulge where that child dies by other means.
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6 Black Men vs 1 Secret White Guy,Though I 'think the white guy sounds a bit white to me, may be because I 'watched the video.In the video he talks of how he was adopted and where he grew up.
Before I played the video, I closed my eyes so I could make an assumption as to the voice belonging to the so-called "white guy." I played it back, and I was correct (by process of elimination.)
'But, if physical tendencies occur, so would psychological one's is my view.
Can particular psychological tendencies be attributed to particular physical tendencies? If so, what was the control?
Women and men, are pretty different they say,
Because human beings are sexually dimorphic. But even with sex, are there tendencies that are strictly male or female?
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@PREZ-HILTON
The abnormal behavior usually needs to be followed with negative effects on the patients life to be considered a mental illness.
Rejection, for example, can have a negative impact on someone's life, but that doesn't make it pathological. It doesn't make it an illness.
I would say gender dysphoria meets this requirement, but was removed from the DSM for political reasons.
Naturally. The DSM-V like its predecessors is maintained purely by "peer consensus."
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@YouFound_Lxam
Mental illness is merely a narrative intended to pathologize abnormal behavior. As of yet, there hasn't been a substantiated biochemical, neurological, or genetic basis for that which psychiatrists argue to be "mental illnesses." And thus, there's no sound basis on which one can refer to "Transgenderism" as a "mental illness." It's merely abnormal.
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@Double_R
Attempting a more serious conversation than some recent threads...I have a question for every 2A advocate who has uttered these words;A five year finds a gun that was stashed away, decides to walk over to the playgroundold and play with it. Three minutes later a child is shot to death.Question: Was that child who was shot to death killed by a gun or killed by another child?
In the event that the five year-old, who found the stashed gun, shot the other child, then of course, the child who was shot to death was killed by the other child using/playing with the gun. Is that really debatable? We can perhaps dispute who's to be held accountable, which isn't typically attributed to inanimate objects.
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@Lemming
Still, if a race can all share 'roughly the same color and voice, as three people argued,I don't see why they couldn't share psychological tendencies as well.
Can it be said that they share psychological tendencies by virtue of one's so-called race if it hasn't been controlled? Case in point: if a Jamaican couple adopts a Chinese baby and raises that baby in Jamaica, what sort of psychological tendencies do you expect to be expressed that reflects his/her so-called race and the exclusion of his/her environment?
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