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Vote count 1.1:
Cerulean (1/5): Casey
Moozer (1/5): Pie
Six months into the investigation, the NTSB's chairman, Jim Hall, was quoted as saying, "All three theories—a bomb, a missile, or mechanical failure—remain." ...The probable cause of the explosion of TWA Flight 800 was ultimately ruled to be faulty wiring that ignited residual fuel vapors in the wing fuel tanks, causing a catastrophic in-flight breakup.
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@ILikePie5
5. At the end of each day, I will ask an investigative question about what happened (e.g. "how many scum players were on the wagon?"). Each player will publicly submit an answer. Based on the success rate of the answers, I will give pre-determined information about the setup.Can you explain this more?
For future notice, I'll only answer questions via PM to avoid mod angleshooting.
I can't give further info about this at the time.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@Moozer325
@Cerulean
Ma I love you. - Last words of the first officer of Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Casey_Risk
@Owen_T
@iamanabanana
"Mayday, mayday, mayday, Helios Airways flight 522 Athens.""Is anyone there..?""Mayday...""Mayday..."OVERSPEED.BANK ANGLE.OVERSPEED.BANK ANGLE.TERRAIN, TERRAIN, PULL UP!*END OF RECORDING*
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Welcome to Mayday Mafia! We hope you have a safe flight.
Rules:
1. Do not copy-paste your role PM or pretend to do so.
2. Do not edit or delete posts.
3. Do not communicate outside of the thread or approved chats (cryptography counts).
4. Respect the site rules. Some banter is fine, but don't derail things with personal attacks.
5. Follow the spirit of the rules and the game.
6. Don't speculate on the timings or structure of the PMs.
Basic Setup Info:
1. The setup is role madness - there are no VTs.
2. Some roles are standardized, some aren't.
3. Majority voting is in effect.
4. 72 hour DP, 24 hour NP.
5. Setup is standard 2v7.
6. This *should* be balanced. I reviewed it with a friend who's an experienced designer.
Important Setup Info:
1. There is a themesplit. Mafia have not been given fakeclaims, but they will be given two chances to ask if a plane accident is already in the game.
2. Each player's role has two parts - a regular role, and a legacy role. The legacy role will activate on death if and only if that player has met an activity requirement - 25 posts in the previous day phase.
3. There is at least one role in the game which may lead to false investigative results.
4. There is at least one role in the game which may lead to false or missing role flips.
5. At the end of each day, I will ask an investigative question about what happened (e.g. "how many scum players were on the wagon?"). Each player will publicly submit an answer. Based on the success rate of the answers, I will give pre-determined information about the setup.
Questions?
I will not answer questions about roles other than your own, or flipped ones.
I will only answer questions via PM.
Living Players:
1. Casey
2. whiteflame
3. Pie
4. Owen
5. Banana
6. Earth
7. Cerulean
8. Moozer
9. Luna
Deadline:
The DP ends 72 hours from the first player post in the thread.
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All role PMs have been sent. Game thread will be up tonight. PM with any questions
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@WyIted
He didn't /in in the first place, as far as I'm aware
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7/9 PMs sent
Sorry for the slow pace, I've been really busy with school and these role PMs are triple the length of regular ones
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Despite [the total loss of the hydraulic systems], the crew was able to attain and then maintain limited control by using the throttles to adjust thrust from the remaining wing-mounted engines. By using each engine independently, the crew made rough steering adjustments, and by using the engines together they were able to roughly adjust altitude. - United_Airlines_Flight_232
Signup list:
1. Casey
2. whiteflame
3. Pie
4. Owen
5. Banana
6. Earth
7. Cerulean
8. Moozer
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The accident occurred when the pilot attempted to make an instrument-only approach with curtained cockpit windows.. [in order to fulfill a bet with a copilot]. Investigators determined the cause of the accident was pilot negligence. - Aeroflot Flight 6502
Signup list:
1. Casey
2. whiteflame
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Casey_Risk
@Moozer325
Mafia!!!
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"Actually, these conditions don't look very good at all, do they?" - Captain of Air New Zealand Flight 901, moments before crashing into the side of a mountain
Welcome to Mayday Mafia! I've long been fascinated with air accident investigation (morbid, I know). In some ways, it's a microcosm of all the things that make us human - ingenuity, heroism, stupidity, and farce. I hope you come away from this game having fun and having learned something about one of the most wild themes run in this forum in quite a while.
This game will have a special additional mechanic: upon a player's death, a post-accident report will be conducted to determine the cause of the accident. This information can potentially give leads on the mafia, but only if used correctly. More information on this will be revealed in-game.
Game will start when filled. Standard rules apply.
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@Casey_Risk
I'm going to let Austin host his game first if he wants. I need to rework my setup.
Putting up signups soon, thanks!
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Also don't ever VTNL. I can explain more if people really want me to but I hope y'all realized that town could have really used that narrow poe.
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Unfortunate. I nailed Moozer D1 and would have pushed him, not sure if I was getting to Luna. I would have sussed the hell out of Joebob for his claim lol. Wp scum
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@Casey_Risk
I dunno, personally I don't really have a scum leaning on anyone right now, as I said earlier. Lynching someone now would just feel like picking someone at random, and I just don't think it's that great of an idea.
That's the point, picking someone at random is literally better than no-lynching. This is pretty well-known theory which is why I'm surprised that none of the experienced players are pointing this out.
Let me try to explain this simply:
In a 7-2 setup as I assume we're in, town has three chances to hit scum before we go to parity and endgame.
Giving up a chance for no reason is bad. Ideally, we want to maximize our hit percentage each time we take a shot, but no matter what, we need to take a shot.
Even if the person we hit flips town, that's still better than having no info at all. D2 is going to be a repeat of D1, only down a townie and down a lynch.
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@Vader
Don't love the activity = scummy. I am a college student and am quite busy on weekends. It's not indicative of town or scum by any means. Austin putting pressure on it makes me a bit FoS
I read it as exactly NAI, actually...?
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VTL Moozer
Gonna go for this today, I think he has very above-average odds of flipping scum. Again, even this flipping town is better mathematically for us than no-lynching.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
Y'all are experienced players. Surely you know better than to no-lynch D1? Lynching brings info, keeps us on odds, and is the only way to use town-directed day power. We don't have tons of info from this day, we don't even know if we have useful PRs.
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ew we are not no-lynching on D1. The only thing it does is put on evens and force us to VTNL again later on. If this was a more active day, I might consider it, but the reality is that we're gonna be going into D2 with minimal info and one less lynch to work with.
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Still have a POE of Casey/Moozer/Vader. I guess maybe whiteflame could be scum, but I have no particular reasons to sus him right now.
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I'm not entirely against Vader's lynch here considering he's only going to be a liability to town if this continues.
However, I do have a light FOS on Moozer - I don't like how he was first one to angle for the "let's just lynch Vader if he doesn't claim" considering he's barely given any reads this day phase - it doesn't look like he's interesting in pushing a worldview or forming one.
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I'd prefer to get a claim from Casey. Moozer's recent posts feel pretty relaxed, not really the kind of overdefensiveness I would expect over getting sussed over a small thematic thing. I'm also sussing Vader by POE, but I doubt we'll get anything from him.
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Ordered readlist:
Town
Luna
Banana
Earth
Owen
whiteflame
Vader
Moozer
Casey
Scum
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Admittedly, I'm grasping a bit for scumreads here since I have little reasons to townread a lot of the people who've posted so far, but still:
VTL Casey
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I just compared this game to Casey's last one. They feel a lot more stilted and formal. It's not something I would scumread on it's own, but when we compare the two:
This game:
Hey everyone, glad to see this site alive despite everything. I know little about Indian politics, so I'm gonna have to do some research for this one. I think it ought to be interesting though.
Alright, so here's an idea to get things moving: how about we all say what party our characters belong to? I feel like that might be a decent way to start. I'll go first. My politician is a member of BJP.
Well, fair enough. In that case, how about we all say whether our characters are a member of BJP, INC, or neither, and whether they are a member of the Lok Sabha, Rayja Sabha, or neither. I am a member of the Lok Sabha, technically speaking (I think).
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If scum get counterclaimed in this game, that's just going to be downright hilarious. They have literally thousands of choices.Anyway, I don't think I've seen Moozer as scum yet. He must be due for it. Let's lynch him now, gambler's fallacy be damned.VTL Moozer
Technically I was scum in that game you modded.Oh yeah, I guess that's true. You didn't get to end up playing, though, so does it really count? I think that's debatable. Someone should make a site where we can debate stuff like that.
Wow, we're making really slow progress here. Normally, this is where I'd be pushing for soft claims from everyone to lock in character claims, but I'm not really sure how helpful that will be to the town considering the sheer breadth of options the scum team has for fake claims. Nonetheless, I guess it's something to go off of. I'll start by saying that my year is in the first century AD. What century is everyone else from?
There's just a huge tonal difference here.
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This is a little bit random, but I think it's kinda towny for Earth to say he doesn't know what the "Lok Rayja/Sabha" is and can't find it on his wiki. Not only does it draw attention to him for something that could probably be remedied by a bit of research, but also really narrows down his potential character claims later on if he's accountable for telling the truth abut that.
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@Lunatic
That's interesting, I feel the opposite about Owen. I figure he would just try and fake claim before claiming his real character, and the fact that he is informing us of this in advance feels more like "Hey when I inevitably claim my character it's gonna sound scummy" which feels more town when he could just lie altogether about it. I would see it as more pre-defensive maybe from a different person with more experience who is lazy and maybe doesn't wanna try and fake claim, but noobs tend to get mis-lynched for trivial things and being misunderstood, so him going out of his way to clarify that seems more of a town tell coming from him.
There's a reasonably substantial risk in fakeclaiming - while there won't be counterclaims due to the question system, it risks having a character that doesn't fit in with the rest, or more obviously, doesn't have a good justification in regards to the role. I don't think claiming what would be his real character is clearing at all.
I agree that I can see it coming from a worried town!Owen though.
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@Earth
Tag, why in particular do you feel it was a bad idea to pressure new players in this game?Generally speaking, I feel like you can't get much out of a new player that you could from someone more experienced.Also I have no idea what the Lok/Rayja Sabha is and find no mention of it on my character's wiki.
Can you explain this? I feel that newbs are a lot easier to sort by alignment simply because if they're town, they'll just naturally towntell under pressure. You can't do that with experienced players who can fake that as scum.
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@iamanabanana
I am a she btw lol
Sorry, will use that in the future.
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@Earth
Tag, why in particular do you feel it was a bad idea to pressure new players in this game?
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Actually Luna can be town. He could have easily used the way whiteflame was pushing for char info as a reason to sus him, but instead nulled it and cut off a potential avenue to make it look like he was scumhunting. It's possible they're both scum, but I'll lean towards Luna just being town.
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Owen feels a bit pre-defensive about his character. Gives me some slightly off vibes, I think he's experienced enough to know that scummy characters don't translate at all to alignment.
I don't like how Earth said we shouldn't pressure new players, I don't recall him doing that at all back when Pie was playing with us and would pretty much always start each game by pressuring the newbies for their experience. Feels like he might be buddying banana.
Casey, Luna, slight townlean for the way they're moving things forward. Same with whiteflame, I like how he's paying attention to activity when it'd be easier to line me up for a mislynch later on by just not pinging me at all.
Vader is null, same with Moozer.
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Banana seems towny enough for a newbie, feels casual in thread and genuinely interested in how the game works. I also kinda think that the questions he's asking make sense, and that if he was scum then he would be more likely to ask them to his scumbuddy to try and avoid rocking the boat.
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@whiteflame
Yep, seems reasonable enough.
I'm BJP, formerly Lok Sabha but no longer.
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Hi all, been a while! hopefully we get an active DP1 this time, the last few games were a bit underwhelming.
VTL Lunatic
won't somebody think of the bananas?
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@Lunatic
Yeah but I didn't do it the day before LYLO lol. All in good fun.
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Current Mafia:
None
Signups:
Pie - Indian Politicians Mafia
In the Hopper:
Casey_Risk - Classic Movies Mafia
Austin - Mayday Mafia
On Hold:
Mharman - Gunplay Mafia
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Didn't follow this game closely, but I think mafia could totally have won just by keeping Luna alive lol. There's no way I wouldn't snapvote him in F3 after provably lying about results, don't do that people.
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@Earth
I'm going to ask a experienced mod to look over my game before I do so.
I'm not sure if I count as "experienced", but I'll probably sit out the next game due to school starting. If you need a balance checker I can help.
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/in Shocking Tv Moments
if and only if it starts on 8/26 or later, so you can put me as a backup for now
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Neat setup, thanks for hosting! A bit scumsided, considering there were 4 ways to get a false cop result (2 of them passive), and only 1 way to get a correct guilty lol.
Also, poor Joebob. Guy can't catch a break.
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