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I forgot to vote, sorry, activity will be spotty
Vtl Joe bob
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I forgot to vote, sorry, activity will be spotty
Vtl Joe bob
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Either casey is bastard modding or joebob is lying
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My internet went out, heavy rains in my area
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My internet went out, heavy rains in my area
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I'm figuring that's the game, then. You did well.
My last post yesterday saying that I was leaning towards voting Catholic was a pretty clear trap - Wylted being killed over me just confirmed my suspicions.
And yeah, saying you visited Catholic wasn't the greatest call. From your point of view, he should have already been confirmed scum.
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@WyIted
I think it's optimal, honestly. I'm kinda leaning towards voting Catholic but I'll keep an open mind tomorrow.
Also I'm town confirmed by not hammering whiteflame, in case it's not already obvious.
VTNL.
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@whiteflame
Yeah, I don't see a good reason not to VTNL, so don't worry about that.
Rereading when I get time.. really busy day today sorry.
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I'm kinda leaning towards voting whiteflame on reread.
still not going to rush this though.
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@WyIted
What do you think of this weird interaction starting from here?
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@WyIted
Okay, I mean I do to but the alternative is that CA is really fucking good at this game. I have no doubt he has potential but this would be very skillful
His reactions feel really genuine for sure. Would be impressed if he's scum.
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@CatholicApologetics
Can you make a brief case for why I should vote whiteflame over you?
Also, we have the option to "no lynch" today, which skips the lynch and goes straight to the night phase. Usually, in a day phase with an even number of players and where mislynching ends the game, it's optimal to do so. Do you believe we should do that?
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I still have some doubts.
I'll be around to make a decision later.
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Is it, like optimal to VTNL here?
We lose a town-confirmed player but also force mafia to commit to silencing someone.
I'm also rereading right now.
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@CatholicApologetics
What do you have to say to this decisive accusation?
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Wylted is town-confirmed due to being a vig. Having a scum vig would be absolutely broken, and we know that Pie, a confirmed townie, was silenced yesterday - meaning it would be even more broken due to having a scum silencer and a vig. I just can't believe that would be the case.
whiteflame is silenced. There's like a tiny chance it's an incredible gambit to silence himself. Not really cleared yet.
I'm starting to suspect Catholic. He claimed really quickly a SOP role despite allegedly not knowing much about the game, and also quickhammered Owen yesterday without a single word.
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@WyIted
I targeted you last night. Did you receive a message?
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I was about to hammer lol.
Hopefully that just ends things.
Moozer should have rerolled if that was the rand, honestly.
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My role targets a player, mod sends them a message that I'm town. I'm not sure what a friendly neighborizer is.
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@whiteflame
Saying you "softed this really heavily" is a harder sell. You most definitely provided some strange details for it that didn't jive with Innocent Child, but at best, that's softing that you have a role that isn't Innocent Child, in which case... why claim it at all? It felt like just a means to automatically get you through DP1, something you could have accomplished just by claiming Friendly Neighbor since that is clearly confirmable. Was the goal to trip up scum or town with this? Also, hard to ignore that you're claiming to have visited the person who was NK'd.
My goal was to leave my role ambiguous enough that scum wouldn't have a clear plan to counter it while also making it specific enough that no other role satisfies what I specified. If you can name any other role that
-unambiguously confirms my affiliation
-can be roleblocked
-relies on the person I'm targeting surviving
then go ahead.
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@whiteflame
unvote
I kinda buy the claim.
Just to be clear, you are a regular hider, doesn't die if hides behind mafia?
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VTL whiteflame
for claim
Also keep in mind I have two more nights after this to confirm myself, one after the lynch if we hit a townie, and one after we VTNL to get back on odds.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Owen_T
@CatholicApologetics
I said this during DP1.
I will be 100% cleared unless I get roleblocked or the person I am targeting gets NKed.
You can argue over whether my claim is real, but you can't deny that I was absolutely softing Friendly Neighbor from the beginning.
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@WyIted
This post is also scummy........................... well it is not on my clipboard for some reason but page 7 of dp1 he asks the cop to out themselves to save the miller as if it is worth doing that to prevent a mislynch on dp1
It's not anti-town at all. You get two confirmed townies + my claim + Catholic's claim, plus you have a vig as well to shoot in the already narrowed POE. I also never asked the cop to out, I said it was worth discussing. I don't like how whiteflame is parroting your reasoning here.
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Wylted is town confirmed.
Catholic is very likely town.
Pie got silenced. If a townie silenced him, they should claim now, otherwise we assume mafia targeted him, which means he's town.
Last scum is between whiteflame/Owen.
I'd bet on the former based on DP1, plus how he's rushing to end the day here.
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Oh never mind Joebob was mafia.
I just townslipped but who's gonna believe me lmao.
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@whiteflame
@WyIted
We are literally in MYLO. Why the heck are you rushing to vote?
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I'm Friendly Neighbor who targeted Barney. I softed this really heavily during D1.
I don't really have much to say. Just really terrible luck. I didn't want to target Wylted, whiteflame or Pie since they could be scum based on D1, and obviously not Catholic either. That left Barney, Owen, and Joe.
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@Barney
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Owen_T
@CatholicApologetics
See above
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WAIT WAIT WAIT I just realized Casey's role PM is fake
Ye be the Nerd! This here middle school type be known fer bein' sharp as a cutlass, but also annoyin' as a parrot squawkin' in yer ear. Ye can't help but butt in on other crew's chatter to correct 'em with yer famous line, "Well Actually...". Many folks ain't too fond of ye because o' this, so ye be the Miller. Ye win with the town.
Casey's role PM doesn't explain what the Miller role does. A real role PM would have a sentence at the end like "if you are investigated, you will be seen as being aligned with the mafia" or something like that.
VTL Casey
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Casey is probably my strongest scumread, considering they have the most questionable claim so far and have been behaviorally null to lean scum.
However, I think we should discuss whether hypothetically, if there is a cop, whether they should claim in order to save Casey. Having a cop doesn't necessarily mean that Casey's claim is real, but it does make it far more likely.
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that doesn't make any sense as a justification in my opinion. Scumlean on Casey in terms of theme for now.
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@ILikePie5
I think JoeBob is likely town based on that claim. Even before the game started, I figured that Jock would likely be in it.I think this actually a scum slip. How did Casey know Jock would be in the game before it started? Moozer made no mention of what the theme would be besides middle school. How does that translate into student stereotypes and further into Jock. Am I missing something?
I figured Casey might mean after the role PMs got sent but before the game started. I don't read too much into it.
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@WyIted
Okay so Austin and whiteflame are the scum team. coolUNVOTE VTL AUSTIN
My role is literally an NP1 Innocent Child if I don't get roleblocked. Not going to claim further but I think I've softed my role very very clearly.
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@ILikePie5
I will be 100% cleared unless I get roleblocked or the person I am targeting gets NKed.
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@WyIted
I am going to sleep. Will check-in in the morning. I think Pie is the only one who cares about my claim. I am ready to lynch between Joebob and Whiteflame and am open to lynching Austin since he has not been cleared yet. If I get to 3 votes on me I will claim probably but let's avoid that, and the other 2 votes have to be people in my town pool
I will likely be cleared tonight if I don't get NKed first.
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@ILikePie5
Trying to townblock people on page 3 of D1 has gotta be the silliest strat I've seen here yet. Especially given fakeclaims seem pretty easy here?It’s based off of a combination of roles, reactions, etc. Why do you have a problem with people’s reads?
We risk misclearing people by rushing. I have no objections to strong early reads, but trying to decide on a d1 lynch already seems premature.
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Trying to townblock people on page 3 of D1 has gotta be the silliest strat I've seen here yet. Especially given fakeclaims seem pretty easy here?
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@WyIted
I'm the Overly Friendly kid.
Don't worry about me today because my role should be self-resolving.
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I do find Wylted's response to being asked to claim a little bit weird. Feels like he might be aware that scum team have some way to tamper with roles that requires knowing what it is.
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