AustinL0926

With all that said, I'm pretty sure RM is scum, and i am collecting some evidence rn

He could be buddying you as scum (trying to be friendly so you'll be less likely to vote him later), but it could also just be a town player who is trying to be friendly to sway others to their side.

Why were you so quick to townread GP?

Why didn't you vote me when you and Pie both agree that I'm likely scum?

Austin: Vanilla

GP: Vanilla (claimed)

Pie: Vanilla (claimed)

RM: Vanilla (claimed)

Bob: Unclaimed, but basically 100% Bodyguard by POE - if any member of town was bodyguard they would've claimed by now or else they're just throwing

So out of GP, Pie, and RM, two are scum.

Let's take a look at possible combinations:

Haven't interacted much

Some very weak bussing (vague accusations + GP vote on pie)

GP impossible to read as always

Possible

RM was quick to townread GP on a very weak basis (seriously, ofc Wylted is going to give mafia samples of town messages)

See above

Hear me out, I think this is the most likely. Look at post #38: RM basically claims that Pie and me (Austin) are scum. Post #39: Pie claims that RM and me (Austin) are scum. With this in mind, why the hell would both of them not vote me?

Also look at their interactions with each other. They are bussing each other in some of the dumbest ways possible. RM scumreading Pie for tagging him when he already voted, Pie scumreading RM for not paying attention to the # of vanillas (how tf is that a scumslip?) RM is also acting a lot softer than normal compared to his usual town play, I would've expected him to act more aggro on Pie.

Combine that with RM basically buddying GP in the beginning for no reason, and it's pretty suspicious.

Will decide how to continue later. posting now

Ok im back, catching up on everything, will post soon.

I am in school and don't have time tod respond rn. Will take a trough look when I get home. I cc vanilla

I've never liked the whole idea of tech > truth (e.g. you should accept something as true in the context of the debate even if it's patently false), but on the other hand, choosing which bare (or poorly asserted) assertions to accept and which ones to reject can easily lead to excessive judge intervention. Just food for thought.

Also for what it's worth I don't consider Pie tagging RM to be a scumslip, seems like he didn't bother checking who already voted. (This is not me buddying Pie, it's just I don't want the discussion to get distracted)

I guess I'll help pressure 7k not because I scumread him for voting RM (I think that's what a confused townie or scum would do), but because I want to find out a bit more about his experience.

Have you played mafia before? Are you aware that simply voting RM doesn't help town much?

Also I'm generally more high-effort as scum, you can see in my previous game, I kept on making BS up until the very end even though I could've easily conceded with a clear conscience pretty early on.

Anyway I'm not really sure about Joebob. I feel like asking all these questions (mostly Googlable) seems to be trying to buddy RM, but he could just be legitimately new.

Perhaps you're overthinking it a bit? I literally just want to show I'm here. Nothing is more annoying than a player who you don't know is AFK or just being an annoying lurker.

I just want to personally say that your RFD's were probably one of the most useful things I got out of my time here. The biggest lesson I learned from them is to not waste time and attention fighting the small battles that don't matter for the final outcome.

Thanks. I think that like everything else, this website is only as good as what you use it for - if you get a good debate out of it, then the hundreds of low-quality ones (you know who I'm talking about) don't really matter at all.

That's definitely an interesting point - competitive debate may be about being right for the sake of being right, but the core skills of debate are about being able to critically understand both sides.

Hi everyone, I'm finally here. Looks like there's not much to see so far. Haven't seen plurality lynching before, interested to see how that ends up playing out.

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if you're still taking signups

I joined this website in late 2022, back in the days when I still had copious amounts of free time. Of course, I wasn't very good - in fact, looking back at my early debates, the structure of my arguments was horrific. But I had fun, and that was what mattered.

I left for a few reasons. My final debate vs. blamonkey showed me how outmatched I was in many respects against a truly competent debater. Then I kinda got distracted with preparing for my 1st year of high school and trying to achieve my goal of becoming a National Master in chess.

So why did I come back? Well, my school has a debate club, so I joined just for fun, and entered my 1st serious debate tournament (e.g. with schools competing from multiple states). This tournament really made me realize how much DART helped my debating skills. While my fellow novices were stealing cards and cases from the more experienced debaters (and proceeded to get rolled because they didn't know anything about their own case), I researched and put together a case, blocks, and frontlines with my partner.

We ended up going 5-0 in prelims, and broke all the way into the finals before losing a split decision to a team with over 10 tournaments under their belt. I'm absolutely sure this wouldn't have been possible without everything I learned when debating at DART.  This is far from a perfect website, but I have a lot to thank it for.

Hai, been really busy with life. I'll catch up with the tournament soon.

"Race-conscious admissions policies should be administered in higher education institutions to promote diversity and address historical inequalities."

I'll take CON on this one.

Agreed, it would be a cool site project - I've actually thought about writing a guide or two myself for new users.

That line was just a satirical comment (not a callout in any way) that I copied from RM's original post:

That's good to hear. I hope he gets back on the site soon - being offline for 20 days, even if he's still active on Discord, doesn't quite look all that great.

Usually, I don't comment on drama, but I'm legitimately a bit confused here. I fail to see how the above posting advocates for violence - is it not a factual statement that the Bible does indeed call for the death of gays?

Many atheists have criticized the Bible on moral grounds - its condemnation of homosexuality being one of them. When they mention that the Bible commands the death of gays, they aren't calling for violent behavior or criminal action. Just because BK is a Christian (or a very good parody of one), shouldn't change that.

Oh rip, I didn't notice, sry. Hope there's a chance I can still get in.

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Sorry, I was busy all day yesterday. Yea, I do have some evidence - I'll share it once I get a chance (i.e. when my teacher isn't paying attention).

Sure. Do you believe that traditionally illegal drugs (e.g. cocaine), if legalized, should be taxed relative to their expected harm on society?

/in

heck yea!

Thank you for all your contributions to this site. o7

Sorry for the late response, lots of schoolwork in the past two days. That sounds reasonable enough. Feel free to send me a challenge, or tag me if there's anything else you want to negotiate.

I don't see what part of the 14th amendment would pertain to this debate, though...?

I don't see what part of the 14th amendment would pertain to this debate, though...?

I take low-hanging fruit where I find it ;)

I'm also 90% sure what your argument is going to be, but we'll see if I'm right.

I'd be willing to do CON on the one about the 19th amendment, if that's fine with you.

I'd be willing to do CON on the one about the 19th amendment, if that's fine with you.

Sure, I can be PRO. I'll get around to sending the challenge soon.

My positions on the three issues:

I'll choose WeaverofFate, and oromagi.

Friendly reminder for you to send the challenge sometime -

Although I'd certainly have the time and activity requirement, I'm nowhere near decent at playing the game. Have you?

Have you considered being our site's representative?

Sure, I don't really have a strong opinion so that's fine. Challenge me when you're ready. I'd prefer two of the judges to be WeaverofFate and whiteflame.

I wish you the best of luck, wherever your travels may take you.

Ramshutu used to be an excellent voter in his younger days, I believe, so there's no need to worry about his votes meeting the standards.

Ok, that's cool. Thanks for the clarification.

I'm not sure if I can make it to the next round of the tournament (I'm leaving for spring break vacation in a few days) - I thought the second round wouldn't start until after the 1-week voting period was over, like in the other tournament. Is there anything that can be done?

You've been surprisingly responsible lately. Anything you want to confess? /s