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VTL Supa
To pressure for a claim. We need to get as many soft claims as possible, since it'll make it easier to identify scum after the chaotic night phase.
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@Wylted
I promise I will be active DP2 and onward. It's just this weekend in particular that I'm busy.
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@SirAnonymous
Yea but as I mentioned earlier, ill be inactive for last 40 hrs of this DP.
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@SirAnonymous
It's a soft claim anyway, and I do need to give out some info because I don't want to get lynched for lurking. Plus, even if scum figures it out, there's still a large leap from my governor to my role (idk what pie was thinking).
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In order to soft claim, I'll list some facts about my governor, since it's easy to verify, but not easy to decode - the ideal qualities of a not-cryptography system (looking at you, Wylted).
- Born in a foreign country
- Supported a high-capacity magazine ban
- Catholic
- Invested heavily in education
- Served in the military
- Won by a thin margin in the election
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@Wylted
I'll soft claim as soon as I figure out how to soft claim. BRB
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@Wylted
What, you want me to provide proof of my business?
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I will be fairly busy tomorrow, and extremely busy on the weekend. Just claiming this in advance so I won't get accused of lurking.
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@RationalMadman
I never played, but I did learn the rules and basics of mafia from here. Plus, since the club is invite-only, no one can double check my story lol.
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This was actually my first ever mafia game BTW. I lied about the three I played before, because I thought if I claimed this was my first game, then no one would believe me.
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Really, I go to sleep and wake up to find that Pie is Mafia MVP - despite not being Mafia. :sobbingz
If Pie had just claimed Mhar was scum like a sensible person, I think we could have won. Probably would have gone like this:
-Pie claims Mhar and VTL him
-Mhar accuses Pie of being GF and VTL him
-Supa VTL Mhar
-Either Lunatic or me VTL Mhar
And during twilight, I would have reiterated my theory that Supa was bussing Mhar.
If Lunatic had died, then I would VTL Supa, Supa would VTL me, and Pie would probably VTL Supa, since I had a lot of evidence on my side, and he was townreading me. I was actually going to call out some of Supa's DP1 posts, as well as the fact that he hadn't made a single substantial contribution to town until suddenly jumping out with a subtle scumslip everyone else had missed.
If Pie had died, this would have been the trickiest, since I knew Lunatic was tunneling me from the beginning. So this would have been a 50/50.
If I had died, it would be an easy win for town. Lunatic and Pie would probably look at my last post, with my theory, and consider it. Also, since I was probably the scummiest-looking town member (for leading the lynch on badger), it would also make the decision using POE even easier. Pie would have been town-confirmed, thanks to his successful "watcher" role, while Lunatic was basically townread by everyone up to that point.
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I think the second scenario is more likely. If Pie was scum, he would probs try to frame Mharman, not Lunatic.
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@ILikePie5
Well, I see two scenarios here. Either you're the GF and trying to mislynch Lunatic, or you're telling the truth, which would mean Lunatic and (Supa? or Mhar, perhaps) are scum. I'll have to think ab what to do next.
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Also no one should lynch until we have more info. If a single town player votes wrong, then mafia can immediately end the game.
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@ILikePie5
I assume you watched Earth during the night (correct me if I'm wrong). Any results?
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@Vader
Austin is my wild card. Tbh I could 100% see Austin being scum over Pie. Austin knowing a lot more about the game and proclaiming to be a noob at the start, the self defense of Luna requesting to lynch him, but at the same time, his behavior and reactions at a glance would highly suggest him just being "rusty." But I am also not throwing out the idea that Wylted put 1 town "noob" and one "rusty" player on opposite teams, but I am not banking on that logic
Ok, just a quick rundown in my defense:
- I never proclaimed to be a noob, I only said that I haven't played this game for a while (and honestly, considering it's been over 2 years since my last game, it's pretty fair to call myself newbish)
- If I already knew how mafia worked, the first thing that I would do is go through a few old games in order to get a sense for how to better play - as I did.
- If I was scum, I would have OMGUS'd Luna. Although this usually is a scum tell, I could have gotten away with it because of my newbiness - OMGUSing is not a reliable scum tell for this very reason, that you don't know whether it's because of inexperience or genuine maliciousness.
- Yes, I'm rusty - I've said so several times already. I didn't play the best during DP1, I should have pressured Mharman more about his post accusing Korea.
- Wylted said it's randomized, so I don't know why you and Lunatic looked for a pattern. Also, Wylted had no possible way to know about the mafia games I had played in the past.
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@Lunatic
For real though: Why are you advocating for a lynch on me? I want a genuine reason, not just seeming "knowledgeable."
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I guess we'll just end on a no lynch, since there's no consensus. I probably won't die during NP, but if I do, for the record, I suspect Mharman.
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@ILikePie5
Mharman: Potentially scum, it does look like a scumslip to me. He also tried a little to hard to push for a lynch on Korea - when I look back at his post, his evidence strikes me as flimsy.
Pie: Likely town, assuming Earth is telling the truth and he's not a GF (lawyer wouldn't make sense for a 2-scum setup). If he is GF, or he's allied with Earth, then we're pretty screwed, but there's no reasonable way to justify the risk of lynching him.
Lunatic: Lean town, I still feel that his DP1 plays were far to aggressive to be a scum. He hasn't rly done anything else to stand out.
Earth: Likely town - just like Pie, if he's scum we're screwed, but nothing we can do about it.
Supa: Null - he did have a good scumread on Mharman. However, assuming Pie, Earth, and Lunatic are town (likely), then he knew that Mhar and himself would be suspected. So he could be bussing Mhar.
Anyway, I'll be pretty busy today, but will occasionally check in.
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@Wylted
Sarcasm is the lowest form of avoidance mechanism.
Anyway, your comment is something of a non sequitur; Intel may have supported the CCP in some threads, but he still doesn't speak for the government. I'm just here being vicariously offended on behalf of him - would you ask a random American why they support the US's violation of human rights?
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@Greyparrot
Yes, I'm well aware. Why is he assuming that Intel speaks for his country? I simply find it a strange assumption.
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@Wylted
Why did you tag Intel?
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- I didn't OMGUS Lunatic despite his unprovoked lynch on me
- I consistently put out my thoughts - they might not have been correct, but I was trying
- I cross-examined several people in order to try and help town
- Once we realized Korea was doctor, I didn't keep pushing for a lynch
So probably the thing that makes me most suspicious is leading the lynch on badger, but I had valid reasons:
- He pushed for a NL on the first day, which is anti-town
- He consistently voted people with zero explanation
- None of his posts were constructive to town
- Badger was clearly rage-quitting the game anyway, so he was basically trying to get lynched
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@ILikePie5
Ah, mb, I didn't see that. Since I know I'm going to be cross-examined for leading the lynch on badger, do you have any particular questions for me before I start citing evidence of my towniness?
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@ILikePie5
That doesn't really answer my question on why you waived, but OK. Currently in class, but I'll list some of my pro-town actions later.
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@ILikePie5
Now that Mhar has full claimed, do you want to reveal your reason?
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Seems reasonable Earth is telling the truth: there's usually one (and only one) cop per setup, and no one has counterclaimed yet.
In that case, it leaves Lunatic, Mhar, Supa, and me (if I'm being impartial).
Lunatic is a townread for me, while Supa is null or slight town.
I would vote Mhar rn, but on the off chance I'm wrong, then the two scums could make town lose right now. I guess we'll just have to wait for him to claim.
In that case, it leaves Lunatic, Mhar, Supa, and me (if I'm being impartial).
Lunatic is a townread for me, while Supa is null or slight town.
I would vote Mhar rn, but on the off chance I'm wrong, then the two scums could make town lose right now. I guess we'll just have to wait for him to claim.
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@ILikePie5
To put more pressure on him to claim? Anyway, I think we've already established I have no idea what I'm doing. Plus, Supa did it.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@Vader
@Mharman
DP ends in 1 hour. Please vote, or at the very least give some of your suspicions.
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Actually, that's a rather poor idea, considering I might be in class during then.
If badger is guilty: Korea reads scummy
If badger is innocent: Earth, Pie read scummy
Supa, Mhar, Lunatic read town for me.
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Wonder if this is some last-ditch gambit by badger, or whether he's just given up.
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@Best.Korea
Badger is the most likely to be scum rn, based on available evidence. Obviously it's D1 and we don't have concrete proof, but we don't want this day to end in a NL.
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@badger
Ok, if you're not going to claim, could you at least say why?
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@badger
In which post did you give your reasoning for VTL'ing lunatic?
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