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Ok, we're all Jester JOAT's aren't we? I mean, except me, I'm obviously the lone vanilla mafia player
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@whiteflame
Start of a day, no coffee, was only half reading things. I see the start to the pressure for claim train, and did not cross reference.
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@Best.Korea
Claim please.This is why insults shouldnt be banned on this site, as this is the product of safe space.
i deserve all the flak for that lapse. I was typing from my phone, and hadn’t had my coffee yet, but I did not pause to think over who was being pressured (I at least made sure it was a low point of pressure, and tagged you to actually apply said pressure… but that’s instinct for me in this game)
P.S., I can’t do name changes. You can message Debateart.com, but he’s been inactive lately. So to currentlychang a name, you’d have to start a new account.
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Dashboard
PLAYER ROLE CHAR DP1 NP1
1. Barney ???
3. Austin ???
4. Whiteflame ???
7. Earth ???
9. Wylted ??? [must kill Octavian/GP]
10. Vader 1x cop. Rachel Elizabeth Dare. wf(innocent)
Graveyard
JoeBob. Emissary Nico
Lunatic loved. Piper McLean
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Piper McLean, that’s really a character name? Is her father a bald weightlifter in a white shirt who’s always smiling?
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Dashboard
PLAYER ROLE CHAR DP1 NP1
1. Barney ???
2. Lunatic ???
3. Austin ???
4. Whiteflame ???
6. JoeBob. Emissary ? Nico
7. Earth ???
9. Wylted ??? [must kill Octavian/GP]
10. Vader ???
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@whiteflame
Thanks for sharing that, I’m on lunch so minimal time for research and catch-up.
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Err, that’d make him into a sandwich; if not too late (I wonder if he’s that role which kills whoever hammers him)
VTL RationalMadman-Man (presumably he was bitten by a radioactive RationalMadman, and now has the proportionate strength and speed of one)
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@RationalMadman
Not for the treats, but for the fun of the reveal…
BTL RM
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@RationalMadman
So he beat me by ignoring the ASAP feature. Okay.
What was your plan?
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@Greyparrot
Good morning,
Since you’re at 5/6 I’m glad I didn’t vote to raise the pressure last night.
Why did you choose DP5 for your prediction? If you’ve already answered this, a link or copy/paste of your previous answer will do.
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@JoeBob
I’ll try to be more active in the conversation.
Thank you, but also please don't overcompensate it. If you have a thought which could be useful, share it; but posting just to post is often worse than not posting at all. With how little information we have, there's already a whole lot of static.
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@Earth
There isn't a Jester. I think we all know Pie well enough that he would never mod a game with a Jester in it.
⬆️ I second this. Jesters only appear when the mod wishes to troll their own game. Since Pie isn't a bastard mod, there's no jester.
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Woot, making a post from my laptop instead of phone!
Dashboard
PLAYER ROLE CHAR DP1 NP1
1. Barney ???
2. Lunatic ???
3. Austin ???
4. Whiteflame ???
6. JoeBob ???
7. Earth ???
9. Wylted ??? [must kill Octavian/GP]
10. Vader ???
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Earlier I asked the three people with wagons on them for some insiders insight.
If he didn't out himself as third party, I'd town read GP. His answer of not giving a fuck, seems honest, and something which might be trouble if he had a team. So my read on him is honest and non-scummy.
JoeBob defending himself from lurking... JoeBob, it's an unfortunate reality of this game that new players suffer this type of thing. If you actually were hoping on and off of the forum a bunch, isn't something I paid attention to (I tend to only look at that when impatient and someone hasn't posted all day).
BK first dismisses the wagon on him as tradition... But then gets hostile claiming it's motivated by payback. I don't like this from any perspective.
I'll admit I had similar fears when I started playing mafia, and while I can name one instance where they were proven abso-fucking-lutely correct, in the rest it was me way overthinking it to my own detriment. We're all smart people playing in a niche intellectual hobby, we have egos which make us want to win more than they make us want to punish anyone for what they did elsewhere.
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@AustinL0926
when I gave him important information and asked him to reconsider his opinion, he dodged them again.-It feels like he's hoping I'll quietly forget about the issue and focus on GP.
I factored the new information in, but as stated, it did not override the rest of the behavioral read.
It was actually last game that Lunatic said something which really clicked with me… something to the effect of not spamming replies to every little thing (RM had been spam tagging), it benefits no one.
I actually haven’t put much thought in GP. He’s pretty good at being a blank. But if I wanted heat on him, I’d ask him tough questions, like where was he in January 5th?
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@AustinL0926
Not trying to be difficult, but asked and answered: #314
As for the millionaire being able to pass on items in addition just having a goodbye message, I missed that when I read the role. If true that certainly speaks to mechanics on other players... Might be best to not lynch today, as we can avoid any item givers outing themselves.
As for actual reads on him, I sus him. If we assume he plays consistently, not OMGUS doesn't fit with his town play style. But I'm only thinking a single game back, I haven't been active in mafia for awhile (I think mafia wasn't active either, but still).
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@AustinL0926
Why do you think Best.Korea is lying?-If so, why do you think he lied?-Do you scumread him?-If so, would you be willing to lynch him at the end of the DP if no one else is being lynched?
he first said he gave out items. Which sounds like an inventor. Then he revealed his role as one who merely gets to post a message after dying. A message would be hard to confuse for items.
Plus, the warning that we should not pick up the items he drops… Never heard of such a mechanic. Sounds like something from a video game.
Lunatic pointed out that BK is fairly new, and may have been confused. Confusion is of course always possible, but this degree of it with a concrete power set seems unlikely. I can of course ask a friend who has read all these books, in case the character claim matches both.
What’s the math on lynching verses not in a game this size?
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@Greyparrot
There's a wagon on me because I have no real incentive to worry about getting lynched plus town and scum both feel it is a safe play.
Do you ever feel like town and scum are essentially Future Beavis and Butt-Head at this stage in the game?
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@Greyparrot
@Best.Korea
@JoeBob
In your own words, please describe why there are wagons on you.
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@AustinL0926
@WyIted
Not sure the current vote count. Please tag me as needed for me to cast votes.
Neither of you seem scummy, so I don't expect this to harm town.
Unvote,
VTL AustinL0926
Unvote,
VTL Wylted
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@WyIted
if you are not jester than kill me and I swap in for you
Sure.
VTL Wyited
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@WyIted
If no one kills me this day phase, the request will still be in place tonight. I don’t have time for this, and would rather someone who does have time for it play.
Oh, I should add that BK is most likely scum. No other way he’d pull RM’s dick out of his ear long enough to start a wagon against him.
The choices should be either BK or myself.
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@RationalMadman
@Best.Korea
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@JoeBob
Hate to do this, but I don’t have enough time to juggle two games.
Please vote me out. Additionally, RM is too good of a brain to murder DP1 for the lols.
VTL Barney.
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Am so the only one that noticed mahatmas (tucking autocorrect,) is the host, thus can’t be copped?
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@AustinL0926
I did see him shift, just pulled into another game so did not update that dashboard… Millionaire doesn’t sound at all like what he first described, so one or both is a lie.
That said, with how obvious of a lie it is, I have no guesses as to the game he’s playing.
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@Lunatic
Any format is fine. If no one has started one, I start one. If someone has, I use theirs and just make amendments.
I definingly don't care for fights over style and formatting. I've been called skim for not imitating origami in claiming that the very act of the list makes be town (he puts himself at the top of the list, whereas I neither move such people, nor put myself up there with them).
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@JoeBob
The post number by it has a link inside it: E.g., #266
If following the link, you'll get a more detailed one: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/10778-the-heroes-of-olympus-mafia-dp1?page=9&post_number=266
Either are fine. I like the second because by just hovering the mouse over it, I get a decent amount of information.
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My brain let me down and I signed up for two games at once.
While I know some idgits think it's anti-town to help each other with information, I'd very much appreciate it if I were not the only one periodically updating the dashboard...
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PLAYER ROLE CHAR DP1 NP1
1. Barney
2. Lunatic
3. Austin
4. Whiteflame
5. Best Korea Item Giver ???
6. JoeBob
7. Earth
9. Wylted
10. Vader
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@WyIted
Also this thread reminds me of this excellent short film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiKCi5TLI9o
That's a very good one. It also suggests the diss so good/bad it kills, will not actually be a Yo Momma joke. It'd have to be original, thus more akin to the Gay Fish joke.
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You are gay. You came into a gay bar and have been flirting with several men. I saw you drinking beer paid for by these other men you have been flirting with all night, so stop denying that you are some sort of f____t and fuck me right here right now
Where to even start on how fucked up that douche was being.
- You were intoxicated, so could not give consent.
- Not that I bought you dinner so you must put out for me is anything but horrible, but it sounds like he didn't buy said drinks; so he's an even worse kind of parasite effectively saying HE bought you dinner so you must put out for me.
- This also resembles a problem faced by most adults at one time or another in their life from friends. If ever attracted to something in category X, and I am somewhere in category X, why aren't you attracted to me?! The answer (well, part of it) is that we are not purely sexual beings who will put out for anyone with two legs (if that's our sole preference) at the drop of a hat; further, we have more than one preference, and even if everything might be fine up on paper, the lightening isn't there.
- Honestly, that mentality is in addition to being obviously communist (various dystopian novels have tackled this), is pre-school level sharing forced upon kids by people so poorly educated they don't know germ theory (which is to say they're even less educated than the children in their care). Did you bring enough gum for everyone? If not we're going to pass it around! Like if he wants to suck you off on the basis that you ever might let someone else... Did he bring enough blowjobs for the whole bar? People are not community property.
i responded by asking him why he was being so gay, but it doesn't feel like a good comeback in retrospect
It's not, and for the circumstances a great comeback would be sub-optimal. Were he your friend, I'd give some gentle reminders about the friend zone. Since it sounds like this was some predator trying to rape you in the men's room while you were too drunk to give consent, and no cops were nearby...
I'm sure others will have better, but here's my answer to that:
- If I wanted to fuck bitches, I wouldn't be at a gay bar. I'm here to get my fuck on with men, with REAL men, not cuckold bitches.
A more mild one would also be good (less raised tempers), such as:
- Someone else buying me a drink, doesn't make me their property, and certainly not yours.
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FYI, the links in this are to player posts. This should result in far less time spent digging back to these claims later in the game.
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PLAYER ROLE CHAR DP1 NP1
1. Barney
2. Lunatic
3. Austin
4. Whiteflame
5. Best Korea Item Giver ???
6. JoeBob
7. Earth
9. Wylted
10. Vader
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@Best.Korea
Sounds like you're a flavor variant of inventor. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Inventor
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@Earth
Would Pie even accept being told in the game thread when you are supposed to PM him your prediction?
Doubtful. But that doesn't assure he's lying about which day he'll predict.
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@Greyparrot
@whiteflame
Kinda glad a certain non-Greek God isn't in this game. The extra mind control powers could make it really swingy.
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@Best.Korea
Nevermind. I just read the latest page. You're actually claiming some type of item giver flavor role.
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@Best.Korea
The items may seem good, but something bad will happen if you use them.
Hep C?
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Welcome to Insults 201!
"Gentlemen, we can rebuild [them]. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic [insult]. [Yo Momma] will be that [insult]."
-Richard Anderson
Purpose:
Too often insults are self-evidently worse for the smooth-brained geniuses who speak them, than it is for the targets of such epic sonnets as "you gay," " 🤣🤣🤣," "[libtard]," etc.
We stand at an unprecedented time in history. We can tell Yo Momma jokes instantly across infinite distances. Used right, we can pool our cognitive resources to devise one so good it kills the victim; the very threat of this will enable world domination!
So please share insults aimed at you, and as a community we can deconstruct and reassemble them into superior dialog.
We can also generate comebacks for said improved insults, so on and so forth.
Prerequisites:
- Appreciate Blackadder
- Don't be a type two troll (type one is fine... don't get me started on type three)
- Have thick skin
Disclaimer:
This thread is intended to uplift discourse, not reduce it to pure delinquence.
While the word insult is used, it is perhaps used wrongly.
As the Yo Momma reference at the start of the thread should have ever so subtilty hinted, insult is being used as an umbrella term for ease of reference.
Anyone engaged in this thread should not seek to harm fellow site members, even while engaging in jocular exchanges. It's like trolling, in that the goal ought to be to entertain rather than to hurt.
Even with the above in mind, some heat is inevitable.
By participating in this thread, you are (solely within this thread) agreeing to be targeted by a degree of (hopefully light-hearted) trash-talk.
You are also agreeing to heavy-handed moderation, to include deleting or editing your posts (any edits will come with a disclaimer explaining them) for any reason.
Finally, much like how the Catholic church has never contradicted itself, this thread does not contradict anything in Etiquette Expectations.
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