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At this point, oromagi put up an ok argument, I don't think he gives off scum vibes.
It's either skittlez or oromagi for me.
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@skittlez09
You said so lol. I was never disagreeing with lynching oro (at least I think). I was just wondering why there were so many people doing it.
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@Intelligence_06
I'm betting this is blocked:
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@ILikePie5
I don't think you can copy paste from PM's, but I'll paraphrase:
You have the role BELOVED PRINCESS. If you are lynched, a DP is skipped. If you are night killed an NP is skipped. You win with the town.
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@ILikePie5
My full claim would probably negatively affect town but ok.
I am Casca from Berserk.
I am Beloved Princess. If I get lynched a DP is skipped. If I get night killed the NP is skipped.
I haven't watched berserk, and apparently the justification for that was that Casca was betrayed by her friends.
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I have a reasonably powerful role, but don't got a night action.
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Largest I seen was misterchris with 21,000 some characters.
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@MisterChris
It seems like PF, but the conclusions are a bit weirder.
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I personally enjoy PF. LD is confusing and CX is just weird.
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@Stephen
Millions of idiots disagree with me, yes.
More than millions of intellectuals agree with me.
I'm blocking you because I don't want to be pinged again. If this was a debate, I would reckon that I would've won.
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@Sum1hugme
It depends. If the things I refute I have actual meaning to them, instead of terrible argumentation, yes I will put an introduction first.
If they don't, and they are obviously in the wrong, or they have basically already lost, I will simply only post the rebuttals.
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@Stephen
I know how Ferguson resigned.
I'm not trying to "prove Doctor Ferguson". I'm saying masks work, it is unclear what you are trying to prove here. Masks don't work? Our government is lying? Doctor Ferguson stinks?
Doctor Ferguson is not the only one who tells the governments things. There are plenty of doctors on each taskforce. It seems this fact can't penetrate your clown mask.
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@Stephen
Yes we know don't we.... NOW!
We already knew it at the time. The WHO quoted it from China, who was spreading misinformation about the virus.
"Millions!"? My word! you have been listening to your governments that closely you are beginning to exaggerate like them.
My word! You have been spreading misinformation, like your own far-right news channels!
It seems like you are trying to prove with Doctor Ferugson, as I have read closer is that since ONE GUY who literally resigned from the task force in the UK made a mistake, every single doctor on every single task force is wrong. Do you see the literal logical flaw in your thinking?
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@Stephen
One doctor thinks it, sure.
The reason why it's controversial IS BECAUSE BARELY ANYONE hears a doctor saying that MASKS DON'T WORK EVEN THOUGH THEY DO.
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@Stephen
The WHO is not a reputable source, it is as reliable as information from China.
It was wrong, it can SPREAD from human to human, it declared a global pandemic less than 2 months later. You can't have a pandemic with a disease that can't spread. You have gotten your news from outdated and UTTERLY WRONG SOURCES. Literally just look at what is happening around you. There are doctors trying to help stop the pandemic, and you are claiming it can't even be spread, WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN 200 THOUSAND PEOPLE DEAD IN THE US ALONE.
Sunetra Gupta was also wrong. She wanted to lift the lockdown, PREDICTING THAT we would stop the pandemic early. She was completely wrong, we have failed. IF we listened to her, we would've had millions of deaths. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/the-costs-are-too-high-the-scientist-who-wants-lockdown-lifted-faster-sunetra-gupta).
I still don't understand why you waste your time finding niche sources, when MILLIONS of doctors deny that claim of yours.
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@Stephen
I did. and from a man - Dr Hilary Jones - that has just days ago been awarded with Queens Honour who had this to say about the wearing of face masks _ " reveals easy ways face masks can become contaminated and therefore ‘completely useless"I also gave you the source of the original stats given by a professor from the Imperial Collage London that had totally exaggerated the death expectancy and his past record of failed predictions AND that your own Dr Fauci had taken his predictions directly from. but you point blank said " I won't read them".
Dude, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. Masks can be contaminated, so you literally just have to wear them correctly.
The reason masks can be contaminated IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY WORK. Wear a mask
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I remember Pie saying that milller claims can only be in the first DP or you'll get a scumread, perhaps Speed was trying to do this.
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@Vader
Skittlez outing oromagi as L doesn't really matter. Any mafia could see that he changed to L.
Notice that your play as town is significantly different than your play as mafia. I might be wrong, but quick-lynching Croc and immediately backing off once you received critique for why you lynched seems sus.
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@Vader
Still, voting to lynch him won't exactly give you his reads.
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@MisterChris
Behaviors. Supa when town usually ignores Crocodile, but now he's so quick to lynch?
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Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its funding and/or regulation of elementary and/or secondary education in the United States.
Doesn't matter if you lose, it isn't a debate on the site.
#host-1
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@Vader
That doesn't look like your play style. You usually ignore Croc.
VTL Supa
Then again, Croc is croc.
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@Speedrace
You weren't pressured or anything. I guess claiming would be beneficial to town, I was just wondering why randomly claim?
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Agree.
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@3RU7AL
But what do you think about people who don't know if they've got COVID or not?Should everyone be forced to wear a mask?And for how long?
Yeah that's the grey area. Nobody really knows, and neither do I.
It seems we both agree now.
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@3RU7AL
You mean "in public" right?Because as it stands, everyone is forced to wear masks in public because we are all assumed to be "asymptomatic" plague spreaders.At what point are we going to know when it's safe?I mean, basically you've turned every healthy person on earth into a secret, undetectable, unwitting murderer that must be muzzled like a mad dog.
If they know they have COVID they shouldn't be outside in the first place. Unless it is absolutely necessary for them to go, they will have to social distance and wear masks.
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@3RU7AL
IN YOUR PERSONAL OPINION, at what point can we stop forcing "asymptomatic" patients to wear masks all the time?
Idk, not a government officer or a doctor. I don't even think they should wear a mask. Just don't go outside and spread the virus.
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@3RU7AL
EVEN BETTER.THIS PROVES THE COVID PLAGUE IS NOT NEARLY AS INFECTIOUS AS WE'VE BEEN TOLD!!!!My position that "even one viron can be deadly" was taken directly from one of the scientific studies you cited.
Naw it's just that masks work.
You've convinced me.When should we stop wearing masks?Shouldn't we be concerned for the 600,000 people who die every year from flu?Shouldn't we be concerned for the thousands of people who die every year from tuberculosis?Why would we wear masks for one deadly disease and not wear masks for EVERY DEADLY DISEASE?Don't you care about the cute-tiny-baby-children and or the elderly?
When you are sick, wear a mask. This is how it is in plenty of Asian countries. I don't know why Westerners refuse to adopt this. Wash your hands for 20 seconds, wear a mask when you're sick, and refrain from touching a lot of things in public, EVEN when you aren't in a pandemic.
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@Speedrace
Apparently he "outed" oromagi's role, but I said that before him.
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@warren42
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@Speedrace
Skittlez just outlined what I said before. Mafia could point this out anyway, judging that most people here watch anime.
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@3RU7AL
Simply testing positive for COVID-19 does not mean you're contagious forever-and-ever.
No, they had COVID at the time
Please challenge my axioms and or point out a specific logical error and or provide a counter-factual.Simply gain-saying is unproductive.
If this was a debate I would, sadly it isn't and if it was your case is in pieces. I don't even know what you're trying to argue at this point. I'm saying we should wear masks, and your counter is that some masks don't work?
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@3RU7AL
It sounds like it protects neither.It sounds like a cynical social experiment.
IF YOUR MASK IS NOT AIRTIGHT AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ARE BREATHING THE SAME AIR YOU WILL ENCOUNTER AT LEAST ONE VIRON.
Both of these are wrong.
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For the record, I have come across people who have tested positive for COVID-19, I've literally been inside their house, but wore a mask and was careful with what I touched.
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@3RU7AL
It is clear that you are trying to prove that EVERYONE who has gone indoors with other people have gotten the virus, which is false. Since these people exist, your case is not sound.
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@3RU7AL
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.YOU COULD BE "ASYMPTOMATIC".HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF EPISTEMOLOGICAL LIMITS!!!
I do know that. I already took a blood test, they found no COVID antigens. That was like a week ago. I haven't been out since.
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@3RU7AL
First off, virus particles aren't alive, you would know this if you took 6th grade science.
Second, most supermarkets now are indoors, meaning that most people who go shopping go indoors. Not everyone who goes shopping has the virus, or ever had the virus including myself. This means somewhere in your proof, you are wrong.
Third, I never said cloth masks work. Social Distancing, N95, and surgical masks do. Yet we have to consider that not everyone has access to those masks. I have masks, some people do not.
Finally, masks and social distancing do help prevent the spread of the virus. There are just different types of masks, which limits how far the virus goes instead of pushing out filtered air. This is why we also use social distancing, and limiting the amount of people in the line.
Just because some masks don't work as much as others, does NOT mean that you shouldn't wear one. The term "face covering" is very debatable and the governments need to stop using that term. The United States should've been better prepared in handing out masks, but instead we downplayed the virus and 213 thousand people are dead.
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@3RU7AL
I never said bandanas or other weird masks work. I said N95 and Surgical Masks do. You countered this by saying there is valves that expell breathing unfiltered. I countered this by saying that nobody is standing right in front of the valve, and not all masks have valves.
You think that since some masks don't work, all masks don't work and you shouldn't wear one. The reason we wear masks AND enforce social distancing is because masks have their fair share of faults, and only prevent the virus from spreading to other people. Governments have already noticed what you noticed and enforced more rules. Sadly, this isn't China and we can't do contact tracing because of hard MAGA supporters and leftists each.
It is clear that your "facts" are wrong because not every person has the virus, and they have gone outside. I have not ever had the virus, and I followed every single rule the government showed. The pure existence of these people undermines your entire case, that masks and social distancing do help.
It is clear that you are completely wrong with your "facts" which are actually just opinions you have. Goodbye. Case closed.
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