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@whiteflame
Sorry, but we do need to lynch someone this dp, so I am afraid claims have to be made for that to happen.
I will claim my character if there are 3 votes on me, but right now I want someone else's claim as I think me character claiming is pointless unless I am at like 3 or 4 votes.
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@whiteflame
Sorry, I tend to forget female characters as I dont find them important, but my character is a female and she has powers, so its like powerpuff girls.
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@whiteflame
You have two votes on you
Alright, I am the powerpuff girls.
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@Barney
I think its time for you to claim the role.
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@ILikePie5
Lean Scum: Austin, Barney, Best Korea
We can vote Barney, and I will even help.
Unvote
VTL Barney
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@RaymondSheen
Biographer? Oh, I don't think you would want that. I'm totally honest. To a fault. Dictators don't tend to respond well to that.
I tend to enjoy when people talk bad of me, so I doubt I would punish people for it.
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@Dr.Franklin
I agree with Raymond. This is the masculine triumph over "Mother" Earth
Yeah, we defeated our evil mother Earth.
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@RaymondSheen
Young and hot? That doesn't mean anything to me.
Well, the world belongs to the young and hot.
I'm interested in what you (and everyone) have to say.
I say plenty of things, so its hard to put it in few words, but if I were to describe myself in few sentences, then I would say I want to punch people in the face, but also write strategies on how to conquer people ideologically.
Though that is only surface. Facade with most people. I'm more interested in puzzling out why you (and everyone) say than what they say. Or think. Feel.
I say what I say, because through talking, I plant my ideas in other people's minds. It can be done directly by telling them the idea, or by leading them to an idea by showing them path to it, by giving them pieces of information which logically form that idea.
It's interesting that I only just now looked at your profile. Japanese. For real?!
No, I wish tho, as I find Japanese race to be a more superior race than white.
Holy hell! Now, there's a puzzling lot. I often say that Shinto is the closest thing there is to a true religion. Only due to its syncretistic nature from the start.
Shinto is the best religion yes, even tho I have many religions, and I am even a satanist, but site doesnt let me choose that as a religion.
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If we lynch now and in dp2, then we get 2 lynches by 3vs2.
7 - 2 (lynch)
5 - 2 (lynch)
3 - 2 (lynch)
But doing no lynch now means we only get 1 lynch until its 3vs2 or 4vs2.
So a no lynch would only mean town loses a lynch, so I am not sure if we are supposed to do that.
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@whiteflame
Again, very selective reading of my responses.
Well, you said that we should not seek any more information. I dont see how is that "selective reading", or what "selective reading" even means, since if you agree with what you said there, it logically follows what I said after.
As for the pursuit of claims, I'd sincerely like to better understand that. What do you think we could gain from more claims? And for that matter, are you not the slightest bit concerned that scum could also gain information from those claims?
Well, I dont want to lynch Pie, and I also dont want to do a no lynch, so the only option left is to find some other player to lynch.
I am aware that scum also gains information, but given the game setup, I think it would be most beneficial if we get scum in dp1, and also later to get confirmable roles confirmed since scum is most likely among non-confirmable roles, and I really dont want no lynch, as it gives scum more time and more information to come up with a claim. I think scum will get information regardless, and given the game setup which favors town by current informations, it is very likely that scum has roles with great abilities which can steal roles during night kill or make us unable to confirm our roles.
No lynch would mean:
7 - 2 (no lynch)
6 - 2 (lynch)
4 - 2 (no lynch)
3- 2 (lynch)
By no lynch twice, we would lose 4 town players, and scum always targets confirmed town players for night kill, so when we are at 3 - 2, we would likely be left with nothing but non-confirmed players, which would make mistake very likely.
Now, of course, this is the worst case scenario, but with no lynch once, we have only 1 lynch, and then we are at 1 lynch away from loss.
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@whiteflame
I'm still not clear how you perceive them.
I can post reads, I guess, but I find it largely pointless at this stage when almost everyone is acting scummy.
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@whiteflame
As for what I'm seeking, it's largely behavioral. That can come from placing votes on people and seeing how they respond. That can come from seeing how they respond to claims and other activity.
So no lynch, no more new claims, just some responses?
I guess thats fine, so you do that.
Although I would prefer if we get claims, as I am not a big fan of a no lynch and no claims.
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@whiteflame
In your extremely limited examination where you only consider 4 people in this game, maybe. In the reality where this game features 9 people, no. You can set up a false dilemma all you want, but that doesn't make it accurate.
The 9 people are pretty much included in "seeking more information", by voting them for claims.
You said you dont want any more claims, so what do you want, then?
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@whiteflame
If you honestly believe that the only choices here are to gain more information, lynch Pie or no lynch
Its not a belief. There is literally no 4th option.
Right now, I prefer a no lynch to lynching Pie. I also prefer that we not seek more information than we already have, given a softclaimed character from Barney and two full claims on the table from Pie and GP, respectively, as well as the knowledge that JoeBob is town. I don't think more information at this point about roles and characters helps town meaningfully, and only serves to help scum.
So your opinion is to do a no lynch.
So if I'm considering a lynch at this stage, since both Pie and GP have roles that are at least potentially confirmable and JoeBob is confirmed town, I break it down to PoE. It's between you, Barney, Vader, Austin and Savant. I behaviorally read both Vader and Savant as slight town, so it's you, Austin and Savant, and at the moment, your behavior seems the most sus to me. I wouldn't pursue a lynch against you at this point, but you're making me second-guess that decision with each response.
I doubt a lynch against me is a possibility, and I would also discourage it, but if I get 2 votes on me, I will character claim, but I think my character makes my role a bit too obvious, so it would essentially be a role claim.
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@whiteflame
Are you suggesting that we do a no lynch?
If not, then who do we get information from next?
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@whiteflame
I also don't understand the perspective that Pie is the only feasible lynch this DP. Please, elaborate on that. What are your reads?
I am saying, with current information, the only lynch is Pie.
Gp will be confirmed next dp.
JoeBob is already confirmed.
Pie is the least likely revealed role to be confirmed at all.
Its possible that he confirms himself, but its also possible that he doesnt.
So, you have these basic options:
1. Lynch Pie
2. Do a no lynch
3. Seek more information, by voting Barney for example.
There is no 4th option, and I am simply going with 3, even tho I think Pie will be lynched anyway this dp unless Barney has an even less confirmable role.
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@whiteflame
BK says he still needs a claim for no stated reason.
Right now, the only lynch is Pie, or we do a no lynch.
So unless you want to lynch Pie or do a no lynch, we need to find new primary target.
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@RaymondSheen
I think you should write my biography once I become the world dictator.
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I only watch anime that has cute lolis.
Well, I did watch Parasyte, and I still regret it to this day.
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@RaymondSheen
I think you are young, are you not?
Yeah, I am young and hot.
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@RaymondSheen
Nature is the enemy and it needs to be destroyed?
I didnt think of it that way.
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I have no experience with being aborted, but I do have experience with being a slave, and its not fun.
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I am not an atheist, even tho atheists are smarter, I still believe in my daddy dragon Lucifer.
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"The UK, like most developed nations, produces more waste than it can process at home: around 230m tonnes a year. According to the World Bank, 1.3kg of municipal solid waste is produced per person, per day – just above the European average of 1.1kg.
The US, the world’s most wasteful nation, produces an astonishing 2kg per person per day."
There are millions of tonnes of trash in the oceans, there is trash everywhere.
For everything you buy at the store, its trash. Plastic bags, plastic bottles, anything made out of glass or any colored paper, its all trash.
The amount of trash in the world is increasing rapidly, and with it, the need to recycle or place trash somewhere else.
However, recycling is expensive, and humanity, the planet's cancer, is slowly polluting all nature, all rivers, all seas and all oceans with millions of tonnes of plastic, poisoning all animals and all plants and all insects with chemicals and waste.
It needs to be noted that humans are the only animals producing waste which cannot be recycled by nature, thus they are actively destroying all the nature to the point where there wont be much nature left.
All nature will contain plastic particles.
Thus, it is no wonder that now humans are also having plastic particles in their bodies, small particles of plastic being present in human bodies.
So not only are humans destroying nature, but they are also destroying themselves as well.
For they have, for the first time in planet's history, created mass waste which is of use to no species.
The only solution is to start sending trash to space, so that we can pollute space too.
What a wonderful sight!
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@TheUnderdog
What bad ideas? And how do you determine if an idea is bad or not?
People raised in dictatorship will likely have Socialist ideas, and many other you would consider anti-freedom ideas.
Then they would be in the wrong as individuals should live in whatever city they choose.
Its not about them being wrong, but its about them being able to deny your society of migrants, something your society needs to survive.
This logic would be equal to a rural North Texan moving to San Fransisco because he hates San Fransisco values.
People dont move to USA just for values.
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@FLRW
Also the poorly educated like to to send all their money to a billionaire.
Plenty of people donated to Trump. Apparently, they dont know that billionaires are people who already have lots of money.
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@Vader
Speaking of which, I noticed a pattern. It looks like role justifications for the most part are based on the powers the hero has. With GP’s claim, my role and character, and Pies role and character, I think we can assume that the role justification are based on the abilities. Is this true for everyone?
Its true for me.
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VTL Barney
I am leaving my vote there, as I have to go to sleep.
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@Barney
You should post your opinions on this, so we can move forward with dp.
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@TheUnderdog
What does it mean to have American values?
People raised in dictatorships are more likely to support bad ideas, even if they move to USA.
What's wrong with that? I'd say if 1.2 billion people want to move to America, then that's 1.2 billion GDP producers in this country.
Yes, but then your country depends on countries which dont have freedom, which beats the idea that freedom existing everywhere would be a good thing, also countries can restrict their citizens from leaving and deny USA of migrants.
Also, many enemies of USA might enter USA if 50 million migrants enter every 40 years.
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
@JoeBob
Decide who do you wanna lead the lynch on next.
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@ILikePie5
I am a X-Shot/Odd Night/Even Night Commuter.
Well, after reading about that role, it says you cant be targeted by night actions when you use it?
So if Gp were to target you, he wouldnt be able to do it, correct?
I think if you dont confirm your role by dp3, then town should lynch you, but as it stands now, it is possible that you confirm your role, so...
Unvote
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@ILikePie5
Just claim the role already.
We already know scum was given some type of character claim hint, so I am not really happy with mere character claim here, since it tells us nothing.
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@Savant
It's more reliable with the main character of the show, since someone would probably be assigned Mark Grayson
I dont know how many main characters are there in the show, but...
Its 7 vs 2.
I seriously doubt lunatic made such an obvious distribution in an open setup.
It would be impossible for scum to win if town took all most important main characters, because then scum wouldnt even have proper character claim, and with only 2 scum players, that would not be balanced at all, and all town would have to do is make everyone character claim and the scums would be obvious.
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@JoeBob
Someone tell me, what was the point of making pie claim?
Well, we cant lynch properly unless we find non-confirmable role, and we cant find non-confirmable role if no one claims.
Besides, you did say you want claim from Pie because Barney isnt online.
So are we going to get the full claim from him or not?
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@Vader
Unless we get a CC, that is about as protag you can get in this game for sure.
I would prefer to know the role, since with over 30 characters to pick from, cc is not that reliable.
Besides, the point was to get role, as I really dont care much for character claims in this particular game.
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@ILikePie5
I am Mark Grayson
And the role?
I am not familiar with the characters, so I cant really figure out role from mere character.
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@ILikePie5
5 people have said that they want your claim. Thats more than half of all players in game, so are you going to claim or not?
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@whiteflame
So you’ll follow who they choose, but only if they’re decisive enough to post a vote, despite the fact that you have acknowledged that you value Joe’s view over GP’s? Seriously, pick a lane.
I dont see what confuses you there, since if Joe isnt voting, then he didnt make up his mind yet.
Thats why I asked him to decide.
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@whiteflame
So considering that JoeBob has expressed an interest in pursuing Barney over Pie, you haven't changed your mind. Why?
Joe didnt vote. Gp did.
And I already told Joe that he gets to make adjustments, since he outranks Gp.
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@Vader
Just because Joe is essentially town and Grey is a lean town, I wouldn't say you automatically trust what they do. Reminder that town are wrong sometimes.
I put my trust in confirmed town players over any other players.
Everyone can be wrong, but only confirmed town players cant be scum, so less likely to feed us false logic.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
Can anyone clarify why this is a thing?
I would vote anyone Joe or Gp tell me to.
Also, I think pie needs to claim.
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@JoeBob
You do outrank Greyparrot in decision making here, so make adjustments as you see fit, and I am ready to lynch almost anyone here except GP, Joe or myself.
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@Greyparrot
Pie and BK are scum... sadface emojis.
So do you wanna lynch pie?
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