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Was a big high wall there that tried to stop me,
A sign was painted said: Private Property,
But on the back side it didn't say nothing ,
This land was made for you and me.
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@RationalMadman
"It is not an intellectual disadvantage"
Difficulty in communication is described as droids unable to communicate with me and unable to receive information that would save them.
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Constitution?
Well, I was always in favor of opposing to support a constitution.
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@zedvictor4
There is no purpose.
Contrary to the popular belief, purpose doesnt determine value.
Even if something has a purpose, it doesnt mean it has value.
Value is determined by brain and not by purpose.
What I wrote matters to me.
The word "purpose" was made to provide comfort.
Since humans know that they are worthless and evil, the only way they could justify their mindset is to say that it has a purpose.
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I have long come to realize that I am the only human on Earth surrounded by a bunch of autistic droids.
Take religious droids for example. For the past 2000 years, they have constantly preached that the end is near. They still preach it today.
Religious droids intentionally lie and use false logic that they themselves fail to follow.
Religious debates are pointless arguments about if something that is undetectable exists or not.
But religious are not the worst.
Worse are vaccine rape droids.
Its obvious that vaccines turn people into rapists and idiots.
Vaccination is rape: penetration of a body without consent, and injection of unwanted liquid in the body.
The inventor of a first vaccine did experiments on children. Some of them even died. He is praised as a great scientist.
Vaccine serves 2 purposes:
1) is to make you more immune to viruses
2) is to make you a rapist and/or an idiot
Autistic droids will say: "vaccination is not rape because it is done for medical purposes."
Where is consent in that?
If there is no consent, then there is rape.
Droids cant understand this logic. It is beyond their programming.
Since vaccination is rape, the victims of such rape become rapists themselves.
Some of them will turn gay. Some will be more autistic/retarded. Some will become deformed.
Whats important is the vaginasation of society. Or if you like: placing importance on vagina.
Unwanted penetration of a vagina is much more important than unwanted penetration of anything else.
This is why circumcision, unwanted penetration of a penis, is not considered rape. But it is rape by definition.
This society tolerates abuse of boys, but condemns abuse of girls.
Vaccination was invented to prevent suffering. But the result of a vaccine was a massive increase in population which resulted in mass suffering and pollution and wars and drain of planet's resources.
Mass increase in population naturally gave birth to junk food, which gave birth to bad teeth, which gave birth to many dentists having a job.
Mass increase in population caused 2 world wars.
Increase in population resulted in increased production. The result was technological rape of society, society that is addicted to technology. This society spends days insulting people online, watching cute videos and playing games.
99.9999% of the people would not be able to survive alone in the wild.
Despite that monkeys survive in the wild without weapons or equipment, humans are not as capable. Most humans dont even know what's food in a forest and what's not.
The vaginasation of society today is pretty much complete.
People treat science and media as their Gods. They are ready to believe everything scientists and media tell them.
Thinking you are free while blindly following orders is the definition of stupidity.
This is why 99% of the people believe toothbrush is good for teeth.
Ironically, the only species to use a toothbrush is the species that has worst teeth.
Its obvious to anyone with a brain that teeth are cleaned with water and healthy food. This is why our ancestors had better teeth than we do.
Today's way is toothpaste. It can be used with water to clean teeth.
Toothbrush should never be used. Only toothpaste.
Sadly, I evolved in a way that my understanding of life far exceeds that of droids. This is a curse, since I would be happier if I didnt know what I know.
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@sadolite
"This all sounds like a long winded description of supply and demand 101"
Money is a commodity. Product is a commodity. So naturally, the amount of these two should dictate their prices.
Every trade should be determined by supply of commodities and ratio of commodities on both sides.
If buyers have 6 dollars and I have 2 burgers, then ideal is that 1 burger costs 3 dollars. 6/2 = 3.
In an ideal market, this 3 dollars price is what happens.
If burger costs more than 3 dollars, then not all burgers can be sold. (Bad for buyers) (inflation) (they cant buy enough)
If burger costs less than 3 dollars, then sellers will earn less money when they could have earned 3 dollars per burger. (Bad for sellers) (low profits) (they cant earn enough)
In an ideal market, the total sum of all prices of products is equal to the total sum of money buyers have.
This ratio in trade is the most ideal balance for both sides. It ensures all commodities are exchanged at max amount.
But this ideal trade doesnt really happen that much.
Sometimes certain amount of product is not sold at all because no one wants to buy it. In that case, the exchange is 0 for 0.
Ideally, each group of products would have same price.
Realistically, some products are overpriced while some are not even sold.
There is a battle between sellers to occupy money in buyer's wallet. There is also a battle between buyers to occupy products in seller's store.
More buyers = bad for buyers, good for sellers
More sellers = bad for sellers, good for buyers
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Lets say that buyers have 30 dollars.
There are 2 sellers. Each seller offers 2 bottles of water for sale.
First seller thinks he will be more competitive if he lowers the price.
So he sets price at 5$ per bottle.
The second seller knows that there will be shortages, so he sets price at 10$ per bottle.
At start, people rush to buy 5$ water bottles from the first seller due to them being cheaper.
However, the first seller quickly runs out of water bottles, and earns 10$.
Second seller, who kept price at 10$ per bottle, is now the only one who has bottles for sale. People buy from him now. He earns 20$, which is double than the first seller.
So usually, the prices are somewhat determined by amount of money that buyers have and amount of supply that seller has. Although this is not precise and there are too many unknowns.
I dont know if this has anything to do with your question, and I dont care. I didnt even go to economic school lmao lol xd but still, you should unconditionally believe everything I say.
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Vaccines make people stupid.
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@Sir.Lancelot
"A lot of the people who join from this will only be here for the attractive PFP's"
This site faces a problem. Since most people are not interested in debating, it follows that most people are not interested in this site.
Even if they somehow find this site, its likely they will hang around for less than a month and then leave forever.
This happens over and over. New people come here, then they lose a few debates and then they leave forever.
Other than making the site more beautiful, what can we users do?
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@YouFound_Lxam
"When did I ever agree to this? This is a blatant lie."
Why didnt you agree?
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@YouFound_Lxam
"If you really think North Korea is better buddy, then go move there. "
I am afraid I am too homosexual for that. There is a risk I could pollute North Korea with outsider unwanted filth.
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@Novice_II
"This is literally just pure nonsense."
Ummm
Its an argument that claims how human logic and human life is a product of gravitational movement in eternal space.
Or, to put it simply, he claims that world is divided into smallest parts which are eternal, while the form they make together is not eternal.
Its just a complicated way of saying: Things werent created. They always existed, they just change form.
Its an alternative explanation that doesnt require God.
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@TWS1405
"I VOTE that everyone here simply IGNORES you"
Why will that work?
Will I go away if you ignore me?
Just ask yourself:
Are you able to ignore me if I make posts that prove you wrong?
If you ignore me then, you are proven wrong. If you dont ignore me, you are trolled.
What scenario can you possibly think in which you could ignore me and not lose?
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"Because that child is too immature to understand the consequences of their actions."
Can children understand the consequences of your actions? If not, then why are your actions towards them better than their own actions?
Why is your action to forbid transition better than child's action of seeking transition?
"Future adult" gets to choose because:
"Because they are more mature and educated to make that decision."
We have already seen that you cannot even guarantee that the child will become an adult in the future, let alone what decisions will he regret or not.
Since you dont know if future adult will regret a decision or agree with it, then your argument is worthless.
When you make a decision instead of a child, you have to be at least 50% certain that future adult will agree with you.
If the future adult doesnt agree with you, then your argument fails.
"There have been a couple of cases of people regretting it"
A couple of cases? So you base your decision on 2 out of 1000 cases? You admit that you would be right only in 0.2% of cases, and wrong in 99.8% of cases? You admit that child's decision would be right 99.8% of the time? What?
"This next generation will show the rest of them"
What percentage of them will regret it? You havent answered.
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@TWS1405
"By definition you are a TROLL"
Sad story.
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@YouFound_Lxam
You said that you will ignore me, and then contradicted yourself by responding even more.
Anyway, US is not number 1 in military.
Where is your argument that US is number 1 in military?
Are US ICBMs good?
North Korean ICBM is the best in the world, as we have proven before.
You also didnt answer why would USA be able to match North Korean strategic nuclear force.
You already failed to refute my argument before.
You already agreed that US is unable to intercept North Korean missiles, and you agreed that North Korea will destroy most of USA if Kim commands it. This makes your argument worthless.
You started talking about human rights. All rights are given by power, and North Korea has all the power.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Can you show us your argument?
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@Sir.Lancelot
No. He eternal.
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This is what Al created after I typed "cute North Korean girl with North Korean flag"
I was offended that Al wasnt able to create North Korean flag.
I still havent tried to type something in christmas style.
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RM
What about Al generated images?
Nightcafe gives 20 free photos to be created each day.
You just select "create 4 images" instead of just one. It costs 1 credit. You gain 5 credits free each day.
You just have to describe the image properly, and Al creates it.
Also, select portrait mode if you want portraits.
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@Sir.Lancelot
"Please elaborate"
Does it need to be elaborated?
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@Sir.Lancelot
He is still the eternal leader of Korea.
Necrocracy + Stratocracy = Eternity
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It looks good so far. We need more people to participate in this if we are to see significant improvement for the site.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Is there something you misunderstood about the question?
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@YouFound_Lxam
Why do you think you have shown anything?
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@YouFound_Lxam
Where is your intelligence?
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@YouFound_Lxam
I would. Best leader in the world, leading the politics with surreal ability in weapons.
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@Sir.Lancelot
He is still the dear leader of Korea.
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The amount of cuteness is sufficient.
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@zedvictor4
Thats the future dear leader of Korea.
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Alright, I will play along.
Give me cute girl pic, nothing sexual.
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@thett3
"The Chinese people are intelligent and industrious but the system they've chosen to run their society is leading them to ruin."
China was first to develop a hypersonic missile, so there is no indication of any ruin for the government.
Their military is advancing, even tho North Korea is ahead of the world in ICBM technology.
Of course, I dont think China's citizens are living much better than US citizens.
Of course, I would prefer to be born in China than in US.
While my country of choice would be North Korea, I wouldnt place US even in the top 20 countries of my choice.
Weak government and circumcision and porn is simply no from me.
Maybe 3000$ wage sounds good if you dont have kids. But I was never that interested in money.
You cant buy my foreskin for 3000$. Its just not the trade I will agree with.
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@YouFound_Lxam
"Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't specify.
Jesus. Yahweh. Christianity."
You have to prove that God exists. Then you have to prove that your God exists, and not Allah or Kali.
Personally, I dont care if God exists or not.
However, I cant help but noticing that you are burdening yourself by claiming you have proof.
Proof for something, by definition, makes every claim against it false.
So as long as there are opposite claims that are not proven false, you dont have proof.
Proof is different from the word "probably" in that sense.
Also, there is an entire army of people here dedicated to disproving christianity.
You could have made the title: "Why do you think God doesnt exist?", which would force them to explain and you would be able to attack their explanation.
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@YouFound_Lxam
"Thats exactly what Best. Korea said when he had none."
Why is your proof good?
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@YouFound_Lxam
"Thats why it should be shared with the law, and the parents."
You agree that government and parents should make decisions about child's body according to their will.
If government decides that child should transition, then child will transition.
Simple, really. Now you have to convince the government as to why transition is bad.
"I said that society will not be comfortable without rights, not me as a person will not be comfortable without junk food or cars. Again, it's not right for society to have these greedy feelings, but you can't make changes on those types of rights without having major backlash."
You agree that its not right for society to hurt children, but you claim that you cant do anything about it.
Would you agree that you cant do anything about child transitioning?
"I believe that you should spank your children at a certain age, so it teaches them to listen, not get caught, and be fearful of their parents."
Not getting caught, being fearful and obedient - are these good characteristics for a person to have?
"Don't cut off pieces of my quote to make a point read the whole thing next time."
Your whole line was about junk food not being harmful if consumed only in small quantities. So I ask: why do people get cavities? Do you think that people can control themselves and only eat small quantities? If not, then existence of junk food results in harm.
"Yes......given that it's called human nature I would assume it is shared by all humans."
So is the behavior wrong if it is not shared by all humans?
And what behavior is shared by all humans?
"I believe that children should not be allowed to transition at all"
Because:
"there are some adults, especially now a days, that will do anything to kids just to push their own political agenda"
Would you do anything to kids to push your own political agenda? Didnt you label kids as property? Didnt you say that they shouldnt have a choice just to push the anti-transition politics? Didnt you say they need to be spanked to be obedient?
"I don't believe that kids should be able to make any life altering decisions like that and no one should be allowed to make those life altering decisions for them except for parents, and only when it is a life-or-death situation."
So your objection is that their decision alters their life, so you want to alter their decision so it suits your world views.
Why does it bother you if someone wants to alter their life?
Instead of allowing a child to decide about their body and property, you want to take that decision to the future adult they may be.
We have already seen that you cannot even guarantee that the child will become an adult, let alone what decisions will he regret or not.
Your moral system is based on a chance. Its not "children will regret". Its "children could regret". This "could regret" does not apply same to all transitioning proceedures, nor it applies same to any decisions in general.
Do you know what percentage of them regret transition, and do you know what percentage of trans adults wishes they had transition as children?
Despite me saying that if children have money and doctor is willing to perform, then they should be able to transition, you still misunderstood it.
You misunderstood it simply because you assumed "child controls his own body = child has money for surgery and adult consents to perform it".
I am saying again: if child has money and manages to convince a doctor to perform surgery, why should parents get a say or the government?
Why does "future adult could want" matter more than what child wants now?
Are decisions negated by the chance of regret? What chance of regret negates a decision?
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@ILikePie5
You said there were consequences, but then conceded that consequences dont stop murderers.
Since you agreed that murders happen and are practiced by private individuals instead of the government, you concede that someone in USA would kill you if someone wished.
This negates your previous claim:
"In North Korea, maybe. In the US nope"
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@YouFound_Lxam
You gave a long definition of best interests.
Since the definition includes "capacity to provide love", we will work with that.
"I'm arguing that there are still a lot of people with kids' best interests at mind."
And you assume you are one of them.
"Interests aren't something that people always act on, it's something that people want. So, if there is freedom, people can't choose what they want to do?"
So should people have freedom not to act in kid's best interest?
"In a way children are property"
Since you clearly confirmed that children are property, here is the question:
Who should be able to make decisions related to child's body?
Society? Government? You? Scientists? Parents?
Who gets the final say?
"You can't have someone's best interest unless you love them"
Since you defined best interests as having capacity to provide love, we will work with this.
"Yes, you want the best for your kids and everyone else, but again if you want everyone to be happy, you have to have some freedoms to an extent."
So are you willing to sacrifice best interests and let children ruin their health with junk food or die in car accidents for the sake of freedom?
"Those things have to exist to keep society happy."
You claim that you cant be happy without junk food and cars.
Are you willing to sacrifice your happiness for kid's best interests?
Or will you sacrifice kids for your happiness?
"I said society as a whole doesn't have kid's best interests, but loving parents do"
Do you have kid's best interests in mind?
"it only hurts them for a second. I personally like the Idea of spanking the child, and after telling them why they did it, and that they still love them."
How much harm is prevented by spanking? Will spanking make children less violent?
"it teaches them"
What does it teach them? What do you teach a child when you hurt him?
"Junk food isn't harmful"
So why do people get cavities?
"Human Nature: the general psychological characteristics, feelings, and behavioral traits of humankind, regarded as shared by all humans."
You concede that human nature is something shared by all humans.
Do you think that we should oppose to all behaviour and all feelings that are not shared by all humans?
"Biological Nature: of or connected with biology; of plants and animals"
Are we supposed to copy the behavior of plants and animals, and behave like plants and animals?
"I have told you all my answers, and you are throwing up red herrings, and switching up words."
You conceded that you consider children property.
Now I am waiting for you to answer: who owns children?
"I believe that children should not be allowed to make life changing decisions"
After you answer who should make decisions about child's body, you will have the answer to who can decide if they can transition or not.
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Its a bad idea to try to fight cops.
Whats the point of it?
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@ILikePie5
"Not without consequences? If an FBI agent came and shot me, there’d be national uproar with the use of social media, etc."
So there are no shootings in the USA? You have 0 murders per year?
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@ILikePie5
"In North Korea, maybe. In the US nope"
So no one can come over and shoot you or beat you up?
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@ILikePie5
"Do you actually think that without nukes the North Korean military 1v1 would beat the US military?"
Probably not, since US has 10x more population.
Thats why North Korea has nukes and chemical weapons.
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@ILikePie5
"Again you dodged the question. Do you agree that just because you have power, you should be able to commit atrocities"
No, of course not. I dont agree. Why would I agree with that? Thats so horrible. Why isnt the world a beautiful perfect fairy tale? Why do those with power always win?
If those with power wanted, they would come over and beat the shit out of you and your moral system.
So your moral system depends on mercy of the powerful not to beat you up.
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@ILikePie5
"So you’re fine with any of the horrible acts dictators have done"
Why were they able to do those "horrible acts"?
Maybe I disagree with those acts.
But how can I stop them if they have power and power decides everything?
Power gives right.
Lets imagine that your neighbor is an old man in a wheelchairs. What stops you from beating him up when you see him? Lack of power or lack of will? If you have power, he depends on mercy of your will.
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Right at the start it says:
"The media of the world gave wide publicity to the news that in a computer simulation of the US department of defense North Korea won and the United States lost. They added that leader Kim Jong Il is the most famous of the famous commanders. Kim Jong Il burns the White House with the fires of guerrillas rekindled on Mount Paektu. Kim Jong Il is a champion of global peace leading the world politics with surreal ability in weapons."
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As soon as I read the title of the thread, I knew that you posted it.
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@ILikePie5
"Best.Korea is the type to guy to support slavery because if you can get power, you should be able to do whatever you want"
If you have power, you can do whatever you want. This is observable. When did you see the weak ones defeating the powerful ones?
If you think that those with all power cant do whatever they want, then go and read the definition of power.
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@YouFound_Lxam
"If you're going to say all websites have fake evidence, then you have nothing to base any of your arguments on."
Then neither do you. So what is your point?
However, unlike you, I didnt provide sites with mentally retarded defectors or lied about what sites say.
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"it is LITERALLY AGAINST HUMAN AND BIOLOGICAL NATURE TO CUT OFF ONE OF YOUR LIMBS JUST BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE IT"
What is human nature? Opinion of majority?
What is biological nature? Opinion of majority?
Go ahead now, give us your answer so that we see why you are wrong.
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@ILikePie5
"Their argument is so far fetched."
Can you or can you not explain what best interests are?
"They’re literally arguing you can’t punish your child."
No one argued this in this forum.
What was argued is that you cant violate child's body or property.
So you are free to use your property as means of punishment.
"No objective person would think kids should be allowed to chop off their arms if they choose"
We have already seen that you are unable to define what is "objective".
So go ahead, define what do you mean by "objective".
"without parental consent"
You concede that children are property of their parents. So why do you object to what people do with their property?
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