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Obama had budget deficit at about 700 billion.
Trump managed to increase it to over 3 trillions, and he increased it the most during the 4th year of being president.
Apparently, Trump printing 8 trillion dollars in 4 years is bad for economy - who would have known.
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Remember that Trump created 3 trillion budget deficit in 2020.
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From my experience, most humans dont learn from their mistakes.
Currently, instead of playing on certainty and low risk, they instead want to see just how much they can keep fucking Earth in all kinds of different ways until its too much.
I guess its like when some animals dont have natural enemies, so they multiply and consume everything they can until they destroy entire local ecosystem.
Only humans are doing it on planet scale.
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The Economic Freedom Index was used to sort "most capitalist" from "least capitalist" nations.
Again, they are all profit driven capitalist economies. So even the "least capitalist" is still capitalist. And you labeled USA as most capitalist, but USA has second highest CO2 emissions in the world, and more emissions per capita than China, but also imports a lot from China too, contributing even further to pollution. But the term "least capitalist" is again, false, since they are all profit driven capitalist economies. So they are all capitalists. There is no "least capitalist", nor did your source even meassure that, otherwise USA would be least capitalist due to biggest government in the world. And again, you ignore that pollution was reduced by forced government action and regulations, not by free market. So you still live in a lie.
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The Economic Freedom Index was used to sort "most capitalist" from "least capitalist" nations
Thats again, false, since they are all capitalist countries driven by profit.
And you again ignored that less polluted countries are only those where government (not Capitalism or profit driven) acted to reduce pollution.
So giving credit to Capitalism (profit driven) for something the government did is retarded.
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The sources I used took the top 3 capitalist states and compared their EPI to the 3 least capitalist states
All countries you listed are profit driven, thus capitalists.
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@FLRW
Who has a higher IQ, Pastor Jim Bakker or Albert Einstein?
I will bet on Albert Einstein.
Well, its a simple bet.
Einstein draws conclusion from premises.
Jim draws premises from conclusion.
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@Moozer325
I’m saying that the sample size they took might have been off from the actually statistically reality of IQ distribution over theists vs. atheists
Every time IQ is meassured in any larger sample, atheists come up as smarter.
I mean, we dont even need IQ tests.
The mere "I believe, talk to and blindly obey someone I cant see, hear or prove existence of" should be enough for a general conclusion.
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@Moozer325
That’s a margin of error.
So you are saying that in IQ tests, margin of error consistently applies only to religious?
Maybe its just Satan interfering with results like that time he planted those fake fossils so people think evolution is real.
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@Moozer325
If religious people had higher IQ, they would brag about it all over the place.
But God for some reason made atheists smarter.
Lol
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@WyIted
Cutting our dicks off is not weird but border security is
Cutting dicks is only mandatory in Christianity, Jews and islam.
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I cited a source that demonstrates that your premise is incorrect.
No. You cited a source of random polluted countries, which happen to be profit driven, which is Capitalism.
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@FLRW
Being religious was never a sign of intelligence.
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@Double_R
Trump did say that he wants for people in USA to be like people in North Korea.
We would have to be extremely stupid to pretend that power hungry Trump who tried to overthrow election results doesnt have desire to have more power and be a dictator.
He has the desire for sure, its just the system which is preventing him.
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@TheUnderdog
So you don't like patients taking good care of their health?
Not if it as a result doubles all prices on market.
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@TheUnderdog
How would people abuse healthcare?
Both doctors and patients are known for abusing free healthcare.
Patients go to doctor much more often than they normally would, driving prices up and creating long waiting lines.
Doctors agree to many unnecessary procedures because government pays their costs and government often pays per procedure.
There was even a case of a dentist intentionally lying to patients and pulling much more teeth than necessary because government payed him per pulled tooth.
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@ludofl3x
Maybe we should just get ChatGPT its own user profile
No, only humans and foxes allowed.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Eh, they can ban abortions all they want. They are just sending people to go to states where abortion is legal, and also to leave their money there.
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- The child has their health bills paid for by US taxpayers.
- The child dies a painful death.
I am not a fan of free healthcare, because people abuse it.
Sure, this example sounds simple, but when applied on mass scale, it causes even more poverty, and thus more crime.
US government already pays 2 trillions for healthcare, which is insane cost.
You could have built additional 3 US militaries with that money.
You could have solved all poverty in USA with that money.
Government healthcare is probably the least cost effective government program in history.
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@TheUnderdog
For the person, death penalty is often less bad than life in prison.
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@Greyparrot
600 elo
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It's from poor people who don't give a shit about the world
Every country has poor people, but the problem is not just in poor people.
For example, Germany recycles 50% of its plastic. All other countries recycle less, because even with severe government funding and regulations, it isnt possible right now to recycle all plastic.
Thus, plastic eventually piles up and lots of it ends up in environment.
But as we can see, the only countries who actually have lots of recycling are those where government imposed regulations and gave funding.
Still, the profit driven economy is driven to produce as much as possible, which results in lots of trash. Its an inevitable outcome of a profit driven economy.
So yeah, I see almost every river being polluted. I cant drink water from rivers unless its from the source itself. Basically, river water is now poison. It wasnt like that for thousands of years, but now it is. For thousands of years, you had many rivers which were safe to drink water from, but now cleaning products, plastic and all kinds of junk are in rivers.
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Different countries have different pollution levels. They are all still polluting and still profit driven.
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@TwoMan
If many people dream of owning a one-of-a-kind piece of art, the dreams of the majority who don't own it will be unfulfilled.
Lets say that all people dream of owning something beautiful.
Thus, the beautiful art can be owned by each person.
They dont all have to have same piece of art. They can have some other art they are happy with and want to have.
Same applies to job. Sure, not all can have the most wanted job, but there are other jobs who are also wanted.
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@TwoMan
You have billions of people living next to each other. Thus, their desire for life is not in contradiction for billions of them.
Same applies to their freedom of movement.
Same applies to the food they choose to eat.
I would just take it a step further and enable as much goals as possible which can be common for all, so that contradiction in society is reduced and more goals are fulfilled.
But you are right. There is always going to be some competition and contradiction. There are some goals which cant be common for all, as they cant be realized by all, but only by some.
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@TwoMan
If 100 people are applying for one dream job opening
Those are contradictive goals. Contradictive goals cannot be all realized.
Only non-contradictive goals can be all realized.
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The amount of plastics in the ocean has increased by 10 times since 2005.
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Capitalist profit driven economy invented electricity, factories, machines, cars, planes, plastic, countless chemicals, massive use of coal and many other things harmful for environment. Overwhelming majority of things harmful for environment were invented or massively used after year 1700 by the very same profit driven economy which you label as Capitalism.
The only countries on Earth which are somewhat less polluted are those in which government regulated and limited economy. All the major sources of pollution are private companies and private individuals, same is true for China which is also a profit driven economy.
Since free market is the most profit driven economy there is, and profit driven economy leads to pollution of the environment, then capitalism pollutes the environment much more than systems which are designed to save environment, and systems designed to save environment cannot be Capitalist systems, cannot be profit driven systems.
To make it simple, profit driven systems are based on increasing output, which produces great amount of trash, waste and pollution.
Again, the trash and chemicals and waste which are the main source of pollution didnt even exist until somewhat 300 years ago, when profit driven economy produced and mass used them, as well as mass using other types of pollution.
Plastic production has sharply increased over the last 70 years. In 1950, the world produced just two million tonnes. It now produces over 450 million tonnes. Thats 225 times more.
In 1950 the world emitted 6 billion tonnes of CO2. By 1990 this had almost quadrupled, reaching more than 20 billion tonnes. Emissions have continued to grow rapidly; we now emit over 35 billion tonnes each year. Thats 6 times more, yet population didnt increase by 6 times since 1950. It merely increased by 3 times. So we have 3 times more population, yet 6 times more pollution by CO2.
The results have shown that river pollution occurs mainly due to discharges of wastewater from farms and sewers, and they have also pointed out the contamination of water with mercury and cadmium. They are especially conscious of factories operating in the steel and agricultural industries.
Rivers are polluted by mass producing chemicals which werent even being produced until profit driven economy took greater place, and now we have much greater number of chemicals finding their place in rivers and environments.
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Levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere are higher than they have been at any time in the past 400,000 years.
So no, I am afraid harmful waste didnt reduce.
Also, you are cherry picking an example of London for some reason and cherry picking specifically air pollution caused by factories, but its not really a good cherry pick as factories moved to China so its not exactly a "solved problem" as much as it is "we import from China now" problem. So even that pollution still isnt solved, you just moved that pollution to the other part of the world and now you import stuff from there.
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Then you say "300 years ago". The population today is 1600% higher that it was then. WE could then expect 16 times more impact today, regardless of government types.
Again, the trash and chemicals and waste which are the main source of pollution didnt even exist until somewhat 300 years ago, when profit driven economy produced and mass used them, as well as mass using other types of pollution.
Do you know what per capita means? Because today, we dont have 16 times more pollution than we did in year 1500.
Today we have thousand times more pollution, since the main sources of pollution either didnt even exist in year 1500, or werent used on a mass scale and as much per capita, per person.
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You need to "just to cut the crap, tell me what country you consider most capitalist."
If you dont want to define capitalism or point me to what you consider as capitalism, then you also cannot claim that capitalism is good, as without definition, no one knows what you are talking about.
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The magnitude of the human population
Thats again, not true, since not all systems produced as much trash per capita as capitalism did. In fact, the very choice to produce plastic, cars, factories, all kinds of chemicals and waste...ect. didnt happen until 300 years ago.
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Or just to cut the crap, tell me what country you consider most capitalist.
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CASUAL RELATIONSHIP between capitalism and environment
If you think that capitalism keeps environment clean, or that we have better environment now than in year 1500, or that if we had small or no government that it would be better for environment, or that increase in production output per person didnt increase trash output, then there is nothing to talk about here.
So here is a simple dichotomy for you:
1. Either capitalism increased production output compared to other systems,
Or
2. Or it didnt increase production output
So which one of these is it?
Or is it the: "Capitalism never even existed" kind of thing?
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@Greyparrot
You shouldnt misquote people. You already have a bad enough reputation.
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@cristo71
Americans have more values in common with Israel than with Palestinians
Thats true.
Both Americans and Israel have committed some of the greatest crimes in history.
But I dont normally see people bragging about things like that.
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I see plenty of people here using terms like "LGBT" and "gay", but these terms are no longer used by anyone who is popular in 2024.
"Gay" is no longer the term.
Now the term is boykisser.
"Lesbian" is no longer the term.
Now the term is girlkisser.
So stay updated with whats popular. You dont want to be considered old.
Its no longer "furry". Now it is therian.
So its not "LGBT". No one uses that anymore.
Its
"girlkisser boykisser trans therian"
Stay updated with whats popular! Dont get old!
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"Gay" is no longer the term.
Now the term is boykissers.
So stay updated with whats popular. You dont want to be considered old.
Its no longer "furry". Now it is therian.
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@TwoMan
Do you think we currently live in a society where most people value all other people's well-being?
No, but I believe people value their own goals and many of their goals are not contradictive, thus can exist with others at the same time.
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@Greyparrot
Also, there are less children being born, which is a future problem.
Less children means less work force, which increases prices and causes it to be even more expensive to have kids, which lowers birth rates even more, which again lowers work force and then again increases prices.
US can maybe rely on migrants for work force, but many other countries cant.
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@WyIted
A larger workforce does usually mean poorer Americans.
Logically, it should have meant richer Americans, but its clear that all the increase in productive abilities was spent mostly on government expenses and healthcare and military, and the wealthy ones took a good part too.
Basically, now Americans work more while living worse.
50% increase in workforce didnt lead to 50% increase in the wealth of average family.
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@Savant
This is my question:
In your opinion, what moral value should take greater priority: preventing pain or saving lives or realizing most important goals and desires of most people?
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US government budget has grew much faster than US economy since 2001, which has caused a great drain on economy.
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The other reason is the fact that many of the employed Americans work in distribution instead of in production, and many more work in healthcare now.
Also, US trade deficit has caused huge problems, as US is actually in a great degree sustained on lots of non-US goods.
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US budget increased by more than 3 times since 2001, which is 300%.
So we could say US budget grew much faster than US workforce and its productive abilities, which is probably what negated the rise in workforce.
Thus, despite more Americans working, US wages didnt increase in the past 40 years when adjusted for inflation and when ignoring the wages of those who are payed much more than an average worker is.
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This is the link which shows that employment increased to over 60% of the population from 40% in 1960.
So employment increased by 20 percentage points.
That means, if we go by that data alone, there is 50% increase in workforce, plus all the technological advancement which made workforce more productive.
Logically from this, it would have been expected that Americans become at the very least 50% to 100% richer than they were 70 years ago.
However, this isnt really the case. We have plenty of Americans who are living on the edge of poverty.
So despite massive increase in workforce both by percentage and actual number, and advancements in production, we are not really seeing average American enjoying the benefit.
One reason for this is massive increase in government budget.
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Just look at the kind of people who support Trump.
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List all successful administrative policies.
Sure, here is the list:
(List is empty)
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@TwoMan
Also, in your example, no individual can realize his goal if anyone else realizes theirs.
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