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@Greyparrot
I guess Putin wins this election cycle, no matter what.
Its like Putin himself selected the candidates for Americans to vote for.
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@Greyparrot
Isnt it funny that Americans are forced to choose between Biden and Trump?
Both have nothing but failure in their history as presidents.
I guess this is one of those cases where democracy becomes incapable of electing a capable president.
Well, at least Putin, Xi and Kim will smile.
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@FLRW
Didn't Stormy say that Trump was one of the dumbest johns she ever had?
Yes.
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Actual truth is only that which you cannot ignore. As long as you can ignore something, it doesnt matter if its true or not, as it will be ignored regardless. Thus, one must develop ability to ignore things, in order to overcome the truth and live in true ignorance where there is no difference between fact and fiction.
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Wu Wei is probably the most complete guide on how to act in any situation, and how to achieve your goals.
Wu Wei is like gentle water flow which doesnt crush obstacles, but goes around them and erodes them.
It teaches the principle of non-contention and avoids using force to achieve a goal.
To put it simply, it says that if a goal can be achieved without force, it should be achieved without force. But if it cannot be achieved without force, then it probably shouldnt be achieved at all.
It teaches the principle of effortless action, which is not exactly a lack of action, but action which requires least effort and least force to achieve a goal.
Instead of trying to change a world by force or by sword, Wu Wei teaches that its better to change a world by mere word and persistence with personal example.
For example, if you lived in society of criminals, if you tried to make them obey you by using force, they might even kill you or brutally beat you.
But if you used the power of word to gently persuade them away from their path and make their path seem wrong to them, you would likely achieve greater effect and would convince one by one over time. The ones you convince would spread your message further, thus the society of criminals would gradually be eroded.
Wu Wei does teach that there are situations where force is necessary to achieve a goal, but in that case, one should use least amount of force possible or change his goals to those which can be achieved without force. If force must be used, it should at least be delayed until perfect moment.
Thus, Wu Wei is not about morality, but rather its about a way to achieve your goals and overcome obstacles not by destroying them as quickly as possible, but by a slow change.
It teaches the unity between yourself and your environment, so that you are never in conflict with your environment, or in minimal conflict with environment, when trying to achieve your goal.
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@Double_R
then soon people will be marrying their coffee table.
They are already marrying pillows. Next stop, sex robots.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Their economy will collapse
No, their economy will not collapse. They can sell to other countries, or increase wages of their own citizens and sell to them. USA has like 1.5 trillion export and 3.9 trillion import. In terms of goods, it means USA is basically giving 1.5 trillion of goods to the world, while getting 3.9 trillion in return from the world, more than double. So now the other countries have pretty much figured out that USA is basically robbing the world economically in terms of resources, but China knew it before and had a plan from the start. Its shame that USA fell for such an old trick, that its biggest weakness is that it depends on import from the very countries it considers its enemies. So the BRICS were formed, with only one aim: to remove US dollar as a world currency and impose their own. After that, USA will no longer be allowed to have 2 trillion dollars of trade deficit. So yeah, if you think US economy is bad now, wait for BRICS currency to take effect.
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@Greyparrot
You do realize US economy is going to collapse regardless of who wins the elections?
The rest of the world is simply tired of giving USA 2,5 trillion dollars of goods each year without getting anything in return.
You guys essentially fell for Chinese strategy. They made you depend on them and their goods, and now they are going to take away all the goods, essentially starving your already failed economy.
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@Double_R
it doesn't mean "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results".
Yeah, its actually stupid to do same thing over and over and expect same result. Like, most jokes are only funny once. Getting punched once is not same result as getting punched repeatedly.
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@zedvictor4
Wu Wei is important for a lazy successful life.
It basically means "dont disagree much with others, dont force others, only try to change others by gentle influence of example and kind word".
Kinda like gentle water flow which overcomes obstacles by going around them and eroding them, instead of trying to use too much force to crush obstacles.
Plus, its fun to say.
Wu Wei!
Wu Wei!
Wu Wei!
What do you follow?
I follow Wu Wei!
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@Greyparrot
That said, we can expect Trump to stop the importing of illegal slave labor
Does illegal slave labor increase US production of goods or lowers the cost of production of US goods?
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However, dont think that the secret government has won simply because it placed these systems in effect.
No. The secret government still cannot solve the problem of unchecked government.
All governments suffer from the problem of unchecked government.
It is the problem based on 4 axioms:
1. Every government seeks to increase its power, and succeeds in that eventually.
2. Increase of government power causes the government to be more corrupt, since it becomes less kept in check.
3. Corrupt government corrupts society.
4. Corrupt society collapses due to wide spread corruption.
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@Greyparrot
What changes will Trump bring that will make life in USA less bad?
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Conspiracy theory time!
Now, I was thinking if I should post this or not, as I am exposing the secret plan which secret governments put in effect to control the population.
Its possibly the most brutal plan ever constructed, the most brutal "selection" put in effect specifically targeting disobedient people to eradicate them.
What if I told you that some 200 years ago, secret wide spread systems were put in effect to kill most of the disobedient people, but leaving obedient people alive?
You would say that I am just telling conspiracy theories and that I am crazy.
But in order to reach a conclusion, we must start from basics, from axiom.
Disobedient people are usually those who are disobedient to rules and to the government, where obedient people are more likely to obey both the rules and the government.
Throughout history, disobedient people survived and even prospered, since disobeying rules was more often an advantage.
However, 3 things changed in the past 200 years:
1. Establishment of car traffic
2. Establishment of dangerous environment
3. Establishment of vaccination
All 3 of these things were designed specifically to eradicate disobedient people.
Those who are disobedient would disobey traffic rules early in life and therefore, would die in traffic, or wouldnt care enough for traffic rules to follow them at any point in life, causing them to eventually die in traffic.
Those who are disobedient would play in dangerous environment, with electricity, harmful substances, and therefore, would die as a result.
Those who are disobedient would refuse to get vaccinated and would be more likely to die from a disease.
These 3 systems make sure to kill specifically disobedient people, as obedient people obey traffic rules, obey vaccination and obey to stay away from dangerous environment.
So what we see is that the systems were put in effect on mass scale to target disobedient people while sparing obedient people.
This essentially allowed the governments to get rid of majority of the disobedient people.
These 3 systems didnt exist 500 years ago. 500 years ago, disobedient people were about just as likely to survive as obedient people were.
However, secret government installed these 3 systems in society to reduce the number of disobedient population and increase the number of obedient population to make government's rule easier.
If you think about it, all 3 systems were allowed and supported specifically by the governments. Its the government who made roads, allowed high speed traffic and mandatory vaccinations, as well as having almost no rules regarding the dangerous environments created in society to punish disobedient people.
I know that what I am saying might not make sense to you and you might even refuse to believe that government would punish disobedient people, but isnt the only obvious result of these 3 systems to eradicate disobedient people?
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@Greyparrot
Right now, do you want anyone else as a president, or is Trump the best choice for you?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
She also recounted how Trump told her she reminded him of his daughter.
What a poor choice of words to tell to a woman you are having sex with lmao
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I found Wu Wei to be one of the most useful concepts of Tao. I guess the best leader can indeed be the one who makes least effort to govern and leads by example. However, I find balance between trying to control and just letting things be, kinda the best, even tho just letting things be turns out fine, usually.
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@ChristianIsEdging
ChristianIsEdging - An honest Christian who isnt ashamed to say that he edges? How is he not afraid that Jesus will kill him with a burning thunder bolt from the sky? Well, he is obviously a very brave person no matter how you put it. He likes anime and debates, so we can expect more anime debates from him in the future. He seems like the kind of guy who isnt playing aggressively. To him, this is all fun and games, and we havent seen him engage in some serious dispute. But he is new, so we dont know anything yet about what kind of roads will this guy take us on, and if he will force us all to edge with him on the way.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If they laugh at the idea that liberty is an objective value, were they really liberals?
I was reading in india times about how people build confidence in their kids and make them smarter, and one of the main ways is to acknowledge and appreciate the accomplishments which their kids make, and encourage them to achieve their own goals. I want to let you know that I appreciate and acknowledge your accomplishments and how you stand up for your liberal values, and not fall like others. So yeah, you are loved and appreciated, and your efforts in achieving your goal of Imperialist liberal Empire are noted.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Your selling satanism to the people .How do you sell it.
Religions ban people from having gay sex, so I say "gay sex is good here", and all gays will turn to satanism. Then if there are some atheists passing by, I tell them "there are no actually really real Gods here, so you guys can join too". Then if I see some women, I tell them how satanism promotes sexual liberation. And if some pervert men come, I say that satanism doesnt really condemn sexual perversions and rules about sex arent really strict, so they join too. If I see some obese people, I tell them that having extra weight is considered beneficial in satanism, as opposed to starving yourself like those religious people do. At the same time, I would talk bad about all other religious tents. I would even make things up. I would even go to muslim religious tent and tell them that Christian tent was talking bad of them, so the two tents would fight. So I would sell Satanism to everyone except really religious folks, they cant be converted.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Ill meet you at the satanic tent
I am always in favor of some satanism.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
No matter what religious tent you walk into , chances arrre ya gonna get raped
Oh fuck, isnt there a single religion where rape doesnt happen? I think we are supposed to pick a religion with lowest rape rates, so we feel at least a little bit safer. I dont recommend we pick Christianity tho, as they do tend to get a little carried away when trying to cure kids from homosexuality.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Personally, I dont like religions responsible for countless rapes and murders. Its just a personal opinion, but I prefer a bit more peaceful religions, with at least a little bit less violent history. Now, I am not saying Christians and muslims are bad, but some of them, if not most of them, are very uncomfortable to be around when you know what those two groups did throughout history. I dont like being raped, so I dont like Christians and muslims.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Only my group is the true correct group, and I cant even prove it!
Still, I prefer people who are blindly obedient and dont ask for proof every time I make some absurd claim, but they just believe in my religion blindly and without question.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If tradition was the root value of all objective moral frameworks, yes.
You actually think that liberalism is some objective moral framework? I mean, seriously, this one would even make liberals laugh.
What happened to death before dishonor?
That only works with actual imperialists, not with liberal imperialists. Liberal imperialists dont even have honor to begin with.
Death before enslavement is my version
Oh great, you even have your own version. What are you? Liberal samurai?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Well it's pretty hard to justify beating actual children. Post the videos
Is it really that hard to google "israeli soldiers beating children"?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
They did not go into Gaza for years
And you know this because you were there for all those years to observe all the soldiers near the wall? Really, I dont even see why do you keep making stuff up to defend the Israeli aggressor. At this point, its obvious you reject all actual evidence and accept lies without doing any research. You even refuse to do simple google search. Like, what I am saying can only be unknown to someone who lives in a box.
They have the higher moral ground in my eyes and will continue to until the people they're fighting are more liberal
This is possibly the dumbest argument anyone has ever made to defend Israel. I know that Bush and Obama made it popular to think that you get to invade countries which dont agree with your version of society, but all that achieves is even more wars and killings. By your logic, just reverse, because Israel is less traditional, Palestine is justified in invading it? By your logic, every society is justified in invading other societies to impose their own values on other societies? Because its obvious that your liberal values are not any better than traditional values, so why would it be justified to invade a country just to impose your values on them? Well, after you suggested that Israel invades Turkey, I must say there is no much sense to your words and you are obviously a liberal imperialist, which is about as funny as it gets.
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Trump is Satan, but he managed to trick Christians into thinking he is Jesus. Trump committed almost every sin mentioned in the Bible, from spilling his seed into Stormy, to getting dirty rich, to stealing from charities, to boasting how great he is all the time. He is complete opposite of Jesus, which just tells you how smart Christians are.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I think it's highly likely that Israel provides more liberty to its citizens
No, Palestinians in Gaza are chased out from homes, beaten, imprisoned just for some Israeli reporting them, Israeli soldiers often beat Palestinian children for playing too close to the wall or because some Israeli reports them. There was plenty of video evidence on this, but of course you wouldnt know because your research stops where you begin to disagree with data.
Being incessant terrorists is a good way to get treated poorly.
So after Israel has terrorized Palestinians for over 70 years, do you think that Israel deserved to be treated poorly? Because all what I am hearing from you is that "Palestinians deserved it because they are terrorists", but you ignore almost a century of Israel terrorizing Palestinians. It is like you only see that evidence which agrees with your world view. After all, its not Palestinians which came to Israel to take its land, but its Israel which came to Palestine and declared Palestinian homes as part of "Israel". So since Israel has obviously terrorized Palestinians for almost a century, then is Israel the terrorist you speak of?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I can also watch videos of Palestinians cheering in the street for 9/11, and raping people, and murdering babies
Do you have any thoughts about from where such hate towards Israel comes? Is it really likely that Israel and USA did nothing wrong to Palestinians? And if you were in prison and beaten and bombed for your whole life, would you develop better or worse human values as a result? After all, mistreating people a lot is a good way to turn some of them into violent terrorists.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
All I see is you blabbing
Do you have any idea why Palestinians hate Israel so much? I mean, whats up with that? Could it be that Israel is mistreating civilians? I assume you didnt bother to search all the videos of Israel mistreating civilians because confirmation bias prevents you from seeking information which contradicts your view. Sure, I talk a lot, but I never miss the aim and like my dick, I shoot out more and more.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Neither of us have any reliable intelligence on who is being killed or not killed in Gaza.
Yeah, its all fake news. And all the photos of Gaza being destroyed completely are just Computer Generated Images. All the reporters constantly filming victims of bombing are obviously just making those images in their studio. All the hospital records of the dead are also fake. Tens of thousands of Israeli rockets and bombs which happen to hit schools, hospitals and civilian homes are actually equipped with radars that know how only terrorists are in the house. And Israel denying food aid to Gaza is because Israel cares about Palestinians and doesnt want them to get fat during the war and gain too much weight.
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@3RU7AL
also, where did cain and abel's wives come from again ?
Those were different times. Man fucking his sister wasnt so bad back then, until God decided that it was. You would think that God would at least try to avoid incest by creating more than two people at the start. Like, its a good story until you realize that humanity was born from incest.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
When people know you're trying to trigger them, it becomes much harder.
No, not really. I think the Israel's supporters are about as triggered as it gets, so the only thing that becomes harder is my dick. But my dick is not the topic of this conversation, so lets not talk about my dick. What we are supposed to talk about is how harder will US presidents in the future have to try to justify sending help to Israel, as even right now most people agree that US should support Palestine and place sanctions on Israel, and we do live in a democracy, so whatever majority says should be done, should be done, unless you think democracy is bad and that we should have tyrannical dictatorship instead.
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After giving 1 trillion dollars to Israel to help it bomb every house in Palestine, its strange the government didnt make sure media wont complain about it by pointing out all the bad things Palestine did to its invader Israel. At least some media censorship should have been in effect. Then people wouldnt complain so much about obvious crimes like they do now. But because of US government's incapable decisions, Israel is exposed as a criminal, where before we could have believed that they are just defending themselves on the territory which doesnt belong to them. Do you guys find it hard to justify the killing of tens of thousands of civilians in few months because US government didnt properly censor that info?
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@Statichead
Statichead - He is that type of gay with battle spirit who likes to argue, but wont really dedicate that much time to arguing. Its more like he wants to have a short argument which ends in no one being too offended, but different opinions being presented with some poking being done here and there. He has an open mind and will even change his mind often, unless its about being gay, as that will never change for him and he would hold that belief against the whole world, not that the world would be willing to fight him, as he is the type of person people would rather have as a friend, even if he pokes them from time to time.
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@Greyparrot
The war was basically over 3 years ago
So you are saying it will remain mostly as it is? With no significant changes in territory control? Just attrition warfare until one side runs out of resources?
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@Greyparrot
Not really.
So if trench networks are so good, are you suggesting that Ukraine digs more trenches as well, so we can have modern trench warfare, or is it a bit too late for that?
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@Greyparrot
So would you say that Ukraine will kill itself trying to capture trench networks, and after Ukraine uses all its resources and fails, Russia will capure remaining Ukraine while facing little resistance?
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@Greyparrot
What about cluster bombs which were delivered to Ukraine?
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@Greyparrot
thousands of miles of trench networks built up over the past 3 years
I prefer tunnels, but sure, trench is fun to be in too. Do you think modern weapons stand any chance against a trench? And doesnt trench just let the enemy know where you are? It takes lots of trench miles to be enough. If your soldiers are crowded, they are easy targets, but if they are too far from each other, then they are vunerable to enemy's surprise charges.
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@3RU7AL
41% of LGBTQ+ young people seriously considered attempting suicide in the past year
Thats because of oppression and mocking. People dont like being oppressed or mocked, but lots of people in USA oppress and mock LGBT community. Just look at comments on YouTube. They are filled with hate, insults and mocking of LGBT.
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@zedvictor4
Faith is either based upon confidence or brainwashing.
Would you say that confidence is better than being brainwashed? And why cant we have both? Confidence can give us power, and brainwashing can make us immune to facts.
Though outcomes are still uncertain
Would you say that Christians can be good people? Are they more likely to be bad? Personally, I dont trust Christians and muslims, because they have molested me before, but I guess people can change.
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@RaymondSheen
There was even a Christian propaganda video called "vile masturbator". Christians are obsessed with dicks.
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@RaymondSheen
We teach the kids "The sky is blue, the grass is green, cows say moo cats say meow."
Thats nothing. Christians used to teach kids that masturbation is a sin which causes blindness, and that circumcising kids will prevent them from masturbating because they will relate to pain from circumcision which will make them less likely to touch themselves.
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@Greyparrot
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Well, of course, no one likes a bystander who thinks he wont get punched in the face just because he is innocent.
No, if you dont put up a fight, then your story is boring regardless of your lack of crimes.
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@sadolite
I am pretty sure when people log off or leave the site they don't think about anyone on this site.
Well, I wouldnt know, its not like I come near their house every night to watch them what they are doing.
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@FLRW
Former President Donald Trump said immigrants coming to the U.S. are “poisoning the blood of our country,”
Yeah, immigrants are better looking so they are taking our women and having sex with them. By banning migrants, American women will be forced to choose to have sex with fat ugly American men instead or have no sex at all, which is much better for American men. Or we just let single women migrate to USA and we marry them.
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