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RationalMadman,

Jesus and I don't think in any way that when I bring forth His inspired scripture to the pseudo-christian, it is not trolling, but factual biblical axioms.

In answer to your LYING POST #10,  I am so sorry that you have to erroneously "tattle tale" on me, BECAUSE YOU NEVER ONCE STATED FOR ME TO LEAVE YOU ALONE, PERIOD! You are LYING AGAIN like you did TO ME in your thread and as shown in this link below: 



If you allegedly didn't want me to talk to you, THEN WHY DID YOU KEEP ANSWERING ME IN YOUR THREAD BELOW UP UNTIL YOUR POST #32 LIKE EVERYTHING WAS OKAY, HUH??!  NEVER DID YOU MENTION THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT ME TO POST TO YOU, NEVER, LIAR AGAIN!!!

YOUR LYING QUOTE AGAIN: " You are harassing every user of the Religion forum whom you view as easy prey."

WRONG! "EVERY USER?" NOT!  YOU ARE AN HABITUAL LIAR AND IT HAS BEEN PROVEN BY ME ALONE!


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RationalMadman,

YOUR QUOTE SLAPPING JESUS IN THE FACE AGAIN!: "I think if we're in a simulated flat Earth and outer space is an illusion then yes, that is definitely evidence of a designe"

What the hell do you mean "simulated flat earth?"  Jesus' inspired words state with specificity that the earth is a FLAT CIRCLE now and in the past!  Are you taking it upon yourself to call Jesus a LIAR again?   Your bible ignorance is without bounds!

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RoderickSpode,

As usual, your complete Bible ignorance precedes every post that you make in the name of Satan!  The Christian cannot leave the Bible's confines and precepts and venture forth on a Star Trek episode like you have erroneously done to comically prove your point for our serial killer Jesus' existence.  Therefore, the cosmology of the time that the Bible was written was the earth was a FLAT CIRCLE with a dome overhead, where within the dome all planets circled the earth, along with the sun, and the earth was held up with pillars out in space.  Therefore, your wishful thinking and comical presentation of an invisible wall being hit by spacecraft should be embarrassing to you in disagreeing with Jesus' scriptural word on how Bible cosmology is shown in the link below.  BLASPHEME! 


Jesus wants us to stay within the realm and time period of how the earth and planets were perceived within the scriptures, and NOT in some outlandish future time period. You can be anachronistic on your own time with your equally dumbfounded of the Bibles cosmology pseudo-christians,  but please do not act in this manner when you are on this forum, okay? Your comical Bible ignorance gives our faith a bad name.

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PGA2.0,

YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE: "Abortion is the taking of innocent human life. Do you find that immoral? Once you lose the concept of equal justice anything goes."

Listen up, our serial killer Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, was the biggest ABORTIONIST of all time within the scriptures, so don't mention the abortion issue in any way whatsoever, because then we have to try in vain to defend our Jesus in aborting the innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies, and in one instance, if a baby was born He murdered it on the spot, okay?  Mums the word!

This is what happens to the very ignorant pseudo-christians like you that really don't know the scriptures like a TRUE Christian like me. 


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Stephen,

As is shown ad infinitum, RoderickSpode does not address our outright godly knowledge that continues to put him on the “hot seat.”  Therefore, to save RS from further embarrassment, and if you don’t mind, I will play RoderickSpode and give you the answers that you truly seek. Okay?


YOUR QUOTE THAT RODERICKSPODE WILL PROBABLY NOT ADDRESS: "And are you suggesting that too?  If so - saved from what? Why do they need saving. Who is going to save them?  How do you know they need saving.  What do you believe will happen to these people if they are not "saved"? "

Unfortunately, the remote people that have never heard of Jesus cannot believe in Him as required for salvation, therefore, lovingly they are headed for  the sulfur lakes of Hell upon their ungodly demise!   “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.” (Mark 16:16) 

Furthermore, you can not be saved by Jesus raising you up on the last day if you never knew He existed as well, because only Jesus can give you salvation: “And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” (1 Acts 4:12). “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:44)

In prayer with Jesus nightly, I have asked Him to use His spirit and please answer me in why such a brutal outcome of the sulfur lakes of Hell are awaiting remote people, through no fault of their own, do not know Him to begin with!  Unfortunately to date, Jesus has not answered. :(

As usual, our continued biblical knowledge, logic and reason, has poor ol' RoderickSpode on the continuous run, which seemingly is his new modus operandi within this forum. The comical outcome of which, he still wants to be called a Christian, but he doesn't even "try" to defend the faith as Jesus' inspired word wants him to do:  "He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." (Titus 1:9)

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RoderickSpode (3 RUNAWAYS TO MY POSTS THUS FAR),

YOUR WISHFUL THINKING QUOTE: "Sometimes these verses are used to suggest that there are and have been remote peoples who never heard of Jesus and the Bible, and thus  had no chance of being saved. This idea would definitely be contrary to this verse:"

Our serial killer Jesus saving His JEWISH people only is not that popular where only a very few will pass the Pearly Gates to begin with. This stands to reason since our glorious heaven in only 1400 square miles with its 60 foot walls, which should be about full in our year of 2020.  Since there is very few that will go to heaven, then it was really no loss for any remote people that never heard of our serial killer Jesus, accept our loving and forgiving Jesus has allowed these people that didn't hear of Him to burn in the sulfur lakes for Hell for eternity. You win some, and you lose some. 

“For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.” (Matthew 7:14)

“For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.” (Matthew 7:14)

"And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:15)

"Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them. Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able.” (Luke 13:23-25) 


RoderickSpode, don't stress out because I don't expect you to even get close to addressing this particular post of mine, because you simply can't, and to prove this fact, you will be silent to its content just like the other 3 posts of mine, 2 of which were in your thread, that you have runaway from to date.  Just watch.

What is so sad is the fact that you are so close to becoming a TRUE Christian like myself, especially when you accepted that our Jesus was in fact a serial killer, which was a milestone for you as a starting point, praise!


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RODERICKSPODE,

Uh, ....... Jesus and I could not help but notice that you have not, I repeat, have not addressed my post #6, and #22 relative to your topic at hand. What is the reasoning for this? Do these posts show you that what you thought you knew, you really didn’t, and therefore you’re embarrassed to respond in kind?  Is it because if you “tried” to respond to them, you knew that I would have to Bible Slap you Silly®️ again? Huh?

This is YOUR thread, and you expect fellow members to discuss your main topic, therefore, when I did this in your behalf, you do not show respect to Jesus when you remain silent to me as a spokesperson for Him in this forum, where I show ALL of His inspired words relative to any topic!  I have just started with you upon this topic, and when I am done, you will have learned important lessons that you can thank me for later, understood? 

Therefore, address my posts in question above, and please, for the sake of your Christianity and your assumed credibility within this forum, DO NOT RUN AWAY THIS TIME, OKAY?  You have already RUN AWAY from me in my revealing, no pun intended, thread about going naked for Jesus!  Therefore, please, don’t add to it with another runaway! 

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RationalMadman,

FAUXLAW'S COMICAL QUOTE TO YOU: "Make it good, because I'm no 6-day creationist."

Yes, by all means, don't forget Fauxlaw's Satanic position of a creation day equals "thousands of years in time!" LOL!  Poor ol' Fauxlaw saw the handwriting on the wall when I gave him a few logical Bible concepts in why his theory would bury him if he continued our discussion in this context a while back. It obviously became so embarrassing for him, that he too had to BAN ME from making him a Receiver in the user name link.  You will learn that Fauxlaw is just another pseudo-christian runway to Jesus' TRUE WORDS within the scriptures!

It is becoming a fact that pseudo-christians in this forum cannot in any way defend their Satanic rewrites of the Bible, therefore, they have to hide in the background to save what face they have left, which in the case of Fauxlaw, he hasn't any left. :(



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RationalMadman,

YOUR HYPOCRITICAL RUN AWAY QUOTE IN POST #29:  "I do run, I just don't run scared. When I run, it's because the other is not worth my time and energy."

Do you have any sense whatsoever in that you should be embarrassed about your comical quote above? Huh?  I mean, seriously!


1. You RAN AWAY from me in calling you a LIAR in my post #27 because you factually know you are outright guilty as charged, and I thank you for accepting this blatant fact!

2. If you RUN because it is not worth any of your time and energy to TRY and refute me, then WHY did you stick around in your posts 7, 9, 13, 17, 20, 22, and 29 doing just that?! 

The bottom line is the FACT that between your initial post within your comical thread, and now, you DO NOT know in what you are talking about, and because of this fact, you were easily derailed by me and others.  In your drastic grasping for straws, you had to make up entities that were NOT TRUE about my posts to you!  In return, I had to easily show you the FACT that you LIED about my posts, therefore to be ever known on this forum as a BLATANT LIAR! Congratulations!

Take a break, I can't bare watching you post again in making a fool of yourself relative to your blundering and convoluted topic that you don't even know what God concept you are talking about to begin with, okay? Here is a novel idea, next time have a solid premise to work from with peer reviewed and/or substantiated FACTS instead of your  wishful thinking, laughable opinions, and grasping from the air hearsay! Got it?   You’re welcome.

Now, I want you to post once again with unfortunately the term LIAR hanging over you head, so you can have a modicum of crumbs left for you so that you can have the last word, okay?  BEGIN:


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RATIONALMADMAN.,

I thought you said you NEVER ran away? What gives? You have completely RUN AWAY from the FACT that when I have called you out for LYING about me when I didn't within this thread, you insidiously put forth smoke screens to try in vain to HIDE BEHIND your embarrassment in front of the membership by adamantly seeing that you were WRONG in calling me a LIAR!  

YOUR POST # 20 OF WHICH I WILL SAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE A LIAR!

1. YOU STATED THAT I TOLD YOU TO GET LOST ....  LIE!
2. YOU STATED THAT I TOLD YOU TO SHUT UP ....  LIE!
3. YOU STATED THAT I THREATENED YOU ....  LIE!

Now, sheepishly exit stage right to save yourself further embarrassment here at DEBATEART Religion Forum! Now we see what your TRUE Modus Operandi truly is, A LIAR!




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RationalMadman,

YOUR LYING POST TOWARDS ME!!:  "  told me to get lost and shut up and think I am in the wrong .... I am not going to go silent on it because of some threats by you."


LISTEN UP, barring the fact that you are WRONG in your comical inferences to the Bible, where have I allegedly performed your incidents above in my posts #6, 8, 12, 15, and 19?!  YOU ARE A BLATANT LIAR IN FRONT OF THE MEMBERSHIP in your vain attempt to try and save face in your comical biblical ignorance!

DEBATEART, TAKE NOTICE OF RATIONALMADMAN TURNING INTO A COMPLETE LIAR HERE ON THIS FORUM!  WHERE WILL HE HIDE IN DISGRACE?


Pathetic little boy antics, what did I expect? What was shown by RM in taking a LYING stance!


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RationalMadman,

YOUR LEADING QUOTE:  I didn't even mention the Bible at all in this thread until you and Stephen did."

Because of you not knowing in which God you were referring too in your embarrassing initial post, I felt that since you were floundering around like a fish out of water, I should "throw you a bone" and mention the Christian Yahweh/Jesus/ Ghost God since this is a Religion Forum. Your metaphysical constructs and unsubstantiated propositions seemingly are not vouchsafed in peer reviews, other than pure speculation and hearsay on your part, get it?   Besides,  you referenced Yahweh/Jesus/Ghost in your post #5! Whoops!

YOUR FOUL LANGUAGE IN OBVIOUS DEFEAT TO THE BROTHER D!: " ...... You're the one who can kindly fuck off, I am not one to run scared ......."

Barring your despicable little boy language, YOU have RUN SCARED by blocking me from normally posting to you, H-e-l-l-o, anybody home today? LOL


RM, from this time forward, shhhhhhhhhhhh.


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RationalMadman,

Your blatant assertion that you don't know in what God you are talking about speaks volumes where this is beyond any misunderstandings that YOU unfortunately possess!  

I don't pretend to be a Christian, because I am the ONLY TRUE Christian upon this forum relative to Jesus' Bible, bar none!  What I find dull and irritating, is the fact that you are so biblically ignorant, but yet you continue to bring forth your continued Bible ignorance as if it was a proud badge to wear! Surely you jest?  

May I suggest that to save yourself any further embarrassment as I have explicitly shown in my post #8 towards you,  just leave the Bible God of Jesus and His doctrine on the sidelines in your future posts, because you do not warrant any further discussion upon them, understood?  Yeah, you do.

You are excused.

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RationalMadman,

Semantics aside for logical reasoning, reread my post #8 because you seemingly DID NOT grasp its full content relative to your outright mistakes concerning your topic!


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RationalMadman,

I am so sorry that you had to BLOCK ME from conversing with you in the normal way upon this forum. Certain members have to perform this insidious act, like you have done, when they can’t discuss matters that I have given them, but to only run away from them instead. Nonetheless, I will address your continued bible ignorance below:

Your quote that falls flat upon its face relative to my post to you herein: “Don't call my bluff too readily though, I will floor you with my superiority.”


YOUR BIBLE IGNORANCE HAS NO BOUNDS IN YOUR POST #7 QUOTE: "......it was also a complete lie that Eve was the first female to sin, rather Lilith was ..... ".

1. In the contradicting creation narratives, EVE WAS THE FIRST WOMEN TO APPEAR ON PLANET EARTH! Therefore, Lilith is a moot issue!

2. Eve transgressed first and was the FIRST female to sin, not Lilith, period! “And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.”  (1 Timothy 2:14)

3. You stating that the fruit was an apple is in no way supported within the scriptures, it was referred to as "the forbidden fruit!"

4. The "pagan side of things" that you erroneously stated is a moot issue relative to the Creation of the FIRST Man and Woman in Genesis one and two.  Understand? Get it? Huh?


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Stephen,

Oh my, how terrible of that little innocent baby to have been inflicted by such a deformity by my Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, since EtrnlVw and I know that Jesus, and not chance, decides what happens in human affairs “The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD.” (Proverbs 16:33)

EtrnlVw and I can only wonder in what the mother did of this poor child to piss off Jesus!  Maybe Jesus is on a mission in India to make them discard their pagan beliefs in Hinduism, and to accept His loving and forgiving nature by believing in Christianity instead, therefore he drastically deformed this babies figure  to wake them up from their evil ways. 

Do you see why entities like this continually test my faith in the 21st century? 


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RationalMadman,

YOUR QUOTE: "God must have first created us selfish and brutal, not the other way around, and what happened was that he/she/it discovered the true beauty lies in having good people to prevent the evil."


NO!  Yahweh/Jesus/Ghost did not create Adam and Eve selfish and brutal at the beginning of Creation, because they were sinless at the start of creation within the contradicting Genesis chapters one and two. It was the insidious women that created evil first by not following YJG to stay away from the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, and then she passed it on to Adam by giving him the forbidden fruit. This is the start of how women are to be looked down upon as 2nd class citizens within the scriptures because Eve transgressed first. Therefore, since Eve screwed up first, Yahweh/Jesus/Ghost gave Eve severe pain in her future child birth, and made it so that Adam would rule over as the man. Again, where women are to be  2nd class citizens, praise!


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ronjs,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE:  "Only the true vine (John 15)"

I get it, therefore the pseudo-christians upon this site are practicing John 15:6 because of their bible ignorance:  "If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned."

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ronjs,

Do you suppose there is any plant structure that would eliminate the pseudo-christians blatant biblical ignorance that is shown ad infinitum within this forum?


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Stephen,

I do not understand why EtrnlVw is going to great lengths in proposing that certain plant structures have medicinal properties to cure diseases that Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, created in the first place, do you?  

As if EtrnlVw calling Jesus a LIAR in previous threads wasn't enough, he now slaps Jesus in the face once again by not accepting the fact that if he gets a disease he does not need plants for the cure, but only needs to pray his disease away!  

Jesus stated; “And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.” (Matthew 21:22)  Key word: “believing,” which triggers the prayer in a direct and absolute manner in receiving your prayer request, like healing oneself of any sickness. 

Stephen, do you think that the pseudo-christian EtrnlVw is afraid of the "believing" part of Matthew 21:22, where he doesn't want to put that part to the test? Whereas, the outcome if he was not cured of his disease after his prayer request, that would show that EtrnlVw obviously didn't believe enough in Jesus as a prerequisite to his cure?

Pseudo-christians, ya got to love their entertainment they provide within this forum!




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RoderickSpode,

YOUR QUOTE TO STEPHEN IN YOUR POST #20 THAT ARE RELATIVE TO MY POINTS TO YOU IN POST #5: "Ludo seems to have made similar points you have made. The difference is he can make them in a civilized fashion. It's a shame that you don't seem to be able to that. It really makes a huge difference."

Granted, therefore when are YOU going to address my factual points in my post #5 to you, other than to RUN AWAY from them by making an insipid comment about some  Landover association?  As if the membership can't see this blatant RUNAWAY action of yours.  When you mentioned the statement to Stephen: "It's just a defense mechanism," therefore, this statement of yours turned towards YOU seemingly is a defense mechanism  to RUNAWAY from my post #5!

Furthermore, there are times when the pseudo-christian like YOU cannot address specific questions, and RUNS AWAY from them as if they didn't exist in the first place. Therefore, at times I have to take the position like Jesus did in the Temple where with great zeal, He got so mad at the money changers, He made a whip and beat them, overturned their tables, and drove them from the Temple (John 2:14-18). Now, when I act in this same manner, surely you cannot say that I am wrong if I followed Jesus' example of enough is enough!  Jesus sets an example for TRUE Christians to follow. Get it? Huh?  Yeah, you do.


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RoderickSpode,

YOUR NOT COMING TO TERMS QUOTE REGARDING JESUS BEING A SERIAL KILLER: “What’s not completely clear is whether or not you view this apparent enlightenment as having to accept a defect, or an acknowledgment of unrecognizable perfection to the human eye.”

I am saddened in the fact that subsequent to my statement, you didn’t read it as a complete acceptance of a “defect,” using your term, because it is relative to Jesus allegedly being all loving and forgiving, when as shown throughout the Bible, HE IS NOT!  True Christians accept his killing nature and simply move on.

Besides, in you conversing with me within this thread, and you bringing up the biblical FACT that our Jesus blatantly murdered innocent zygotes, fetus’ and babies in His Temper Tantrum Great Flood, is truly a milestone for you. You are on your way to becoming a TRUE Christian like me, praise!  You should be proud, whereas in becoming a TRUE Christian, you won’t have try and spin doctor exact literal passages away any more of Jesus murdering His creation. Isn't that a blessing?  Sure it is, praise! 


YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU ARE EMBARRASSED IN WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THE TOPIC: “You mean some random person like Miss Ogynist (who's rumored to possibly have married someone name Phil) will in no way make it to heaven?

To play along with your bible ignorance, the answer is yes.  Any TRUE Christian realizes that within the scriptures it shows that women will not be a part of heaven, whereas you should know where these passages reside. If not, then you should hide in embarrassment once again.

Additionally, since heaven is only 1400 square miles, with its 60 foot walls, then seriously, do you think it's almost full 2000 years subsequent to it being described as such? Obviously Hell is burning its inhabitants to powder, therefore it will always have enough room for more of the ungodly. Whats your answer to this biblical fact?


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PressF4Respect,

YOUR SICKLY QUOTE: "The truth is, pathogens exist, and they do cause diseases."

The bottom line if you are a TRUE Christian, and not a pseudo-christian in name only like EtrnlVw represents, then the biblical axiom that if you catch a disease, even a deadly one, all you have to do is literally "pray it away!"  This is the "Ace in the hole" for TRUE Christians like myself, praise!

Jesus stated; “And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, BELIEVING, ye shall receive.” (Matthew 21:22)  Key word: “believing,” which triggers the prayer in a direct absolute manner in receiving your prayer request, like healing oneself of any sickness.  It’s just that simple, besides, do you want to call Jesus a LIAR relative to what He said in the verse in question? I think not!

As with any biblical doctrine, there is a drawback, and that is, if a Christian does not get their prayer answered pertaining to the healing of their sickness, then the onus is put upon them because they obviously didn’t “believe” enough as the verse in question so states as a prerequisite to your healing,  and the rest is history. 


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Doc,

What part of the inspired by Jesus passages below didn't you understand, and at your expense of smelling sulfur just before your demise?

"Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.” (1 Corinthians 15:33)

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?”  (2 Corinthirnas 6:14)


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YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE WHERE YOU ARE POSSIBLY HELL BOUND UPON YOUR DEMISE!: "ive grown to hate dawkins and appreciate smart atheists like cosmicskeptic over the years"

There are times within this forum where I just can't believe in what a pseudo-christians says, and this being one of them!  How dare you slap Jesus in the face in appreciating smart Atheists, especially "Cosmicskeptic" in this case?!  

Concerning you associating with Hell Bound Atheists, once again, you pee upon the Bible as if what it says has no meaning to you!

"Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.” (1 Corinthians 15:33)

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?”  (2 Corinthirnas 6:14)


In the name of Jesus, I will pray for you tonight to hopefully let you pass on your insolence towards Him once again.  Unbelievable.  :( 



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RoderickSpode,

I am a TRUE Christian, where I have to follow ALL of Jesus’ inspired and literal words within the Bible. In the same vein, a TRUE Muslim has to follow ALL of the inspired and literal words of Allah within the Qu’ran. Both contradicting faiths have no choice in the matter if we are going to follow our specific religions, period!


YOUR PASSIVE IGNORANT QUOTE: “After the 9/11 attack Richard Dawkins made a public statement chastening the general public for not condemning Abrahamic religion.”

Pertaining to 911, and if you remember, “W” was told by God, which in this case would be the Christian version of God, aka,“Jesus,” to attack Afghanistan and Iraq to eliminate the terrorists, where in essence, they are worshipping another God and not Jesus.  Therefore, “W” was attacking the Mid East fraudulently in the name of Jesus at the expense of many US service mens lives, and the maiming of same upon their return, and innocent Muslim lives as well.  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

Here is the irony, when “W” attacked the Muslims and their God Allah, whereas Allah is the same God as Jesus in being from the Abrahamic linage, he attacked Jesus as well!  See the ramifications of these Biblical axioms? Laughter is the only way to ease this painful outcome! RS, are you laughing at this anomaly or not? LOL.  BUT, the biggest irony of all, is the fact that both Allah and Jesus contradict themselves in their Holy writings, therefore logically speaking,  how can they be the SAME GOD?!  Whoops. 

The content herein is what questions my faith, and if it doesn't question yours as well, then Satan has truly entered your soul!

All this deduces to the fact that you wonder why Dawkins condemned the Abrahamic religions? Surely you jest!   


YOUR CONTINUED IGNORANT QUOTE: “I would go as far to say that it would have been inappropriate to lump all Muslims in a terrorist category.”

You are wrong once again because the Qu’ran warns, "Those who make war against God and his apostle shall be put to death or crucified" (Koran 5.33). “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an." (Qu’ran 8:12).  Now, is it any wonder why TRUE Islamic followers attacked us on 9/11?  Remember my statement at the beginning, where to be a TRUE Christian, you have to follow ALL of the Bible’s direct inspired and literal words of Jesus? Huh?  In the same manner, the TRUE Muslim has to follow ALL of the direct inspired and literal words of Allah within the Qu’ran!  Do you have the authority to tell the Muslim otherwise? NO, you do not, in the same vein as you do not have the authority to tell Christians that they are NOT to follow all of the Bibles inspired word in killing others that do not follow Christianity!  GET IT?

Deduced down to its irreducible primary, the only difference between the Jihadist Muslim terrorist and the regular Muslim, is that the terrorist Muslim actually follows what their Allah's Qur’an tells them to do in the killing of all non-believers of their faith, especially if their country was attacked by the infidels of the United States! UNDERSTOOD?

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YOUR REVEALING QUOTE (NO PUN INTENDED): "If the Spirit of the Lord came upon me, sure, why not."

Good for you! You are slowly on your way in becoming a TRUE Christian, instead of your ungodly pseudo-christian status at this time, praise!


YOUR ADDMITANCE OF JESUS DROWNING BABIES:  I'm a bit puzzled though. Why would you be willing to strip for a God that, as you had stated a number of times, drowned babies?"

Again, you are on your way of being a TRUE Christian in positing that Jesus drowned innocent zygotes, fetus' and babies in His Great Flood scenario as their mothers watched in horror as their little ones took their last gasp of air and went under to the depths of the ocean. Barring this enlightenment of yours, I will strip for Jesus anytime His spirit comes upon me, and it matters not of Jesus being a serial killer as explicitly shown throughout the Bible. This is because Jesus offers a heaven without any women present! Seriously, if this isn't enough to follow ALL of Jesus' words, then I don't know what is!  Agreed?  Sure you do, because you have too.


YOUR RHETORICAL QUOTE:  "And I may as well just come out and ask, do you love God with all your heart, mind soul, and body?

Of course I do, and I know that I am preaching to the choir because I have to be saved to be able to inhabit our 1400 square mile heaven with its 60 foot walls (that should keep the JW's out) AND the fact that there will be no women in this glorious heaven, praise!  I am sure you will agree that we had to put up with the 2nd class women while on earth, therefore Jesus knew this and will keep them out of our heaven so we will have peace for a change, praise Jesus!



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First off, I accept your Freudian slip graciously of being better equipped as I alluded to in the Jesus party narrative given. 

The obvious debate would be that if you were a pseudo-christian, even though you’re not a TRUE Christian like myself,  and you were at a party and the spirit of Jesus came over you like it did with Paul, would you or would you not strip for Jesus in front of the party goers?  In essence, if you didn’t strip for Jesus, you are slapping Him in the face in withholding this godly act. If you do strip for Jesus, then you are showing Him your love.  Which would it be for you, strip or not strip, GET IT? HUH?

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YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE: "This sounds like religious fanaticism. This sounds like what Hitler'll put into a forum topic."

Just who in the hell do you think you are in calling the inspired words of Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, the words of Hitler???!  If you disagree with this direct Bible narrative of the spirit of Jesus coming over you, and where you would strip naked for Him, then most certainly it does not in any way pertain to religious fanaticism! Understood?

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YOUR NON-SEQUENTIAL QUOTE: "but RM is older on this site than you"

I don't care if RM came upon this forum yesterday, or if he has been here on the first day of this forums existence, understood?  He will be called out when he steps out of line, and in this case, by using his own style of argument that he used against Stephen where it shut him down.  get it?.


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DOC, YOUR "OUT TO LUNCH" QUOTE: "so now RM stole from BrotherDthomas??"

DUH!  We can't be responsible for you not following the blatant misuse by RationalMadman in using my propositions of Jesus is Allah of a time past, that are within the same vein as RM accusing Stephen of doing with his alleged Jesus is Lucifer concept.  Keep up with the serious stuff in this forum, and do not drop along the wayside in having to ask questions like you have just done on a topic that you should be familiar with, okay?



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Doc, 

What did you just say again in trying to refute my words?  Do you remember the last time you tried in vain to do the same thing and fell flat upon your face where you had to apologize to the Brother D? Huh? I will let you pass on this one, you can thank me later.

Listen up Doc, the next time I attend a party like the one shown in my initial post relative to 1 Samuel 19: 23-24, I will invite you to go along as well, okay?  Let's see if the spirit of Jesus comes over you in the same way it did for me.    Albeit, if the spirit of Jesus does come over you and you strip naked for Him in response as did the biblical Paul and myself, I doubt you will have the same reaction towards the women that I did. For that I am truly sorry.  Some of us are godly endowed, therefore, thank you Jesus!!!


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RationalMadman,

To use some familiar words of yours, and a concept of yours as well, YOU have stolen my concept that Jesus is in fact Allah God, and  in another thread, I was there to reclaim it in the same vein as you accused Stephen of stealing your Lucifer is Jesus concept! Get it Huh? Now, for good reason, you have repented of your blatant misgivings in front of the membership.  

Remember, for the future, not only is Jesus Allah, but He is also the Hebrew only God named Yahweh of the Old Testament.  All three of these god concepts have their impetus within the linage of Abraham. Notwithstanding, all three gods contradict each other within their godly writings, the Jewish Torah and Tanakh, the Muslim Qu’ran, and the Christian Bible, but yet, they are all presumed to be the SAME GOD!  Understood?  Do you see the ramifications of this blatant contradiction in terms? This is what you should be uncovering and talking about, instead of trying to have a male anatomy contest with Stephen and myself, of which you would never win!

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Our Hell had nothing to do with it because it was the husbands that ruined Jesus' spirit coming over me, and where their jealousy got in the way of the situation to fully play out.  :(


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What better way to stand out, and for Christian men to possibly “stand up” at a party you’re going to attend, is for the Christian to strip naked in the spirit of our Yahweh/Jesus God as exemplified by Paul, aka, Saul,  in the following scripture:

And he went there to Naioth in Ramah. And the Spirit of God came upon him also, and as he went he prophesied until he came to Naioth in Ramah. And he too stripped off his clothes, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay naked all that day and all that night. Thus it is said, “Is Saul also among the prophets?” (1 Samuel 19: 23-24)

Just think, subsequent to you stripping naked for the spirit of Jesus coming over you at your next party, you’ll be the life of any party, and will be number one on any party list for future entertainment in showing what the spirit of Jesus will make a TRUE Christian do in His name, praise! 

I tried this scenario one time at a Christian only party, where the spirit of Jesus came over me as well, but when I stripped for Jesus as Paul did in the above passage, the women attending gasped in amazement at my manly stature.  Therefore, a long line started to form where these women's husbands were jealous and escorted them home post haste.  Of course Jesus and I were displeased, where maybe next time this situation will have better results.


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Stephen,

I am happy to be corrected by you in me forgetting to use the appropriate additional word of "Plagiarizing " which further describes the neophyte RationalMadman so perfectly.  

RationalMadman's cohort in crime, the ever so biblically ignorant RogerSpode, is a "follower" in instead of leading the pack. I can't count the times that he has run away from my biblical axioms in discussion, where at one point, I almost had to hire a secretary to try and keep track of his ungodly runaway actions.

I know it doesn't bother you as much, but I cannot believe the "plethora" of pseudo-christians within this forum!  It is like Satan Himself has told this element that DEBATEART is your new home.  BLASPHEME!


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I know I am preaching to the choir with you, even though you're a Hell Bound Atheist, therefore the Satanic JW faith rewrote Jesus' inspired Bible with their New World Translation that was explicitly written by Satan Himself!  They changed Jesus from being Yahweh God incarnate, to just the Son of Man, and they do not believe in a Hell, even though the REAL BIBLE of the KJV states with specificity that there is most certainly a Hell of fire and brimstone, and where my serial killer Jesus agrees!


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Jehovah Witnesses, Memorial Day is over for another year, you can come out from hiding again to sheepishly tip toe back into society once again in total and complete embarrassment!  

In your hiding, you didn't have to see a veteran in full dress celebrating this important Memorial Day and what it stands for. Therefore ,  the last thing a Hell Bound JW can ever do, is to go up to said veteran, or one in service, and shake their hands in thanking them for their service. I am sure that if this event would ever present itself, Jesus would strike the JW with a lightening bolt for their hypocritical stance. TRUE Christians remember what Jesus thought of hypocrites!

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As you can see, RATIONALMADMAN stole my concept of Jesus is Allah in my post #30! I have touted that concept for over 30 years, and he must have seen one of my dissertations upon this topic on the internet.  How dare he steal from me, and not give me credit, or at least tell where he got this inspiration from, which was me, in the same vein as he is accusing you regarding Jesus and Lucifer!

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Yes,  being a hell bound Jehovah Witness in the 21st century is despicable to say the least.  If you read their horrific history, and the present day shenanigans that they are guilty of, it boggles the mind in how anyone can swallow this Satanic faith!  Furthermore, it is like this cult is vying to be number one, over the Catholics, in the sexual child abuse catagory by their pedophile miscreants buggering innocent children, and then the ungodly cover up that ensues subsequent to this sickening act!

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Since you have blocked me for obvious reasons, I have to post to you in this way without you being the recipient, albeit I will get my point across at your expense nonetheless.


YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU STOLE MY CONCEPT AND OTHERS OF JESUS BEING ALLAH GOD!:  “ I have even evolved the theory far more, understanding that Lucifer/Jesus is also Allah, …….. “

How dare you take my proposition, and many others upon this topic as well, where we have biblically proposed and proven that Jesus is also Allah! You therefore are inspired by my biblical knowledge, and by many others in this respect, where obviously you can’t be inspired by your own in making this conclusion yourself, but to only copy mine, and the many others, that have come to this conclusion that Jesus is Allah before you did!  

For the sake of your further embarrassment, and the least of which, I want you to apologize to me in front of the membership for being inspired by me and others in our conclusions that Jesus, is in fact, the Islamic God named Allah that you obviously stole from us in our many posts over the years upon this topic!  

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YOUR INSIPID LITTLE BOY QUOTE #5: "And what did you do during WW2? You're an armchair warrior with nothing better to do than pretend to be Christian on a forum where you could actually argue for what you believe in, instead."

First thing, you are either showing your young age, or you cannot grasp the English language in your example of an horrific syntactical sentence structure.   Which is it?  Reading your reply was as upsetting as hearing one scraping their fingernails across a blackboard! 

Barring your grade school English skills, and a vacant biography that is ever so revealing to probably being further embarrassed if you actually filled it out completely, why did you leave yourself wide open to be easily embarrassed by the Brother D again?  First thing, I was not of age to have been in WW2, but I was of age to be in the Air Force as a “Wild Weasel” driver where I flew with the 67th Fighter Squadron in the Bull Sh*t Nam war.   We had a "draft" at the time, where if we had one now, you'd pee in your pants!  If you didn't have an iron-clad excuse to get out of the Nam experience, you were to essentially be "cannon fodder" in a needless war, or you left the USA altogether. Therefore I picked the Air Force and was able to return, where 3 of my friends weren't that lucky, and all for nothing!   

Now, what did you do to serve your country Mr. RationalMadman?  Stay home hiding like the JW's did?  Stay with your parents until you "found yourself" in being able to choose whether or not to serve your country of origin?  Notwithstanding, your use of the Marvel Comics DareDevil as your image moniker is comical, whereas subsequent to reading your ever so wanting posts, you are not even 1/1000 of what the DareDevil's modus operandi represents!  Laughable at your expense once again.

The irony is the FACT that you have me blocked like a little wussy boy, therefore I had to post to you without you being the recipient like usual.  This is because you know I would easily own you like I have before in any discussion pertaining to religion and/or Christianity, therefore if you want to engage me once again, unblock me and be a man as the membership watches you easily being embarrassed, get it?  In simpler words for you to "maybe" understand, you want your cake and eat it too! LOL!  

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The ungodly JW’s slap the face of our US Armed Forces who risked and lost their lives to also save the cowardly Jehovah Witness from certain death at the hands of either the Nazis, and/or the Japanese in WW2. When it came down to the Jehovah Witness to actually stand up for their freedom, they ran away using their Satanic rewritten NWT bible in WW2 until the conflicts were over. Then the sickening namby pamby Jehovah Witnesses were glad that the freedom they now have, others had fought and died for when they sat home and hid from defending the USA! 

The irony is the FACT that their version of the Hebrew god named “Jehovah,”aka, Jesus the Christ, was the most warring god known in the Bronze and Iron Ages and set an example of going to war when needed!   What the despicable JW’s forgot about is the following passages set forth by Jehovah pertaining to war: 

”There is a time to love and a time to hate; A TIME FOR WAR and a time for peace." ( Ecclesiastes 3:8)

"From twenty years old and upward, all in Israel who are able to go to war, you and Aaron shall list them, company by company." (Numbers 1:3)

This is a link to why the Hell bound JW’s do not fight wars, but let others do it for them, even when our country was attacked on December 7. 1941.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008487


As if the ungodly faith of the Jehovah Witness religion wasn’t bad enough in protecting pedophiles with their “two witness rule,” subjectively, they are to be further chastised on Memorial Day for their cowardly stance in not helping defend the USA in WW2!

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Do you still want me to be your friend?  Then DO NOT try and put erroneous words into my mouth relative to the topic at hand, understood? The correct biblical answer is YES, every one of the 613 commandments are to be followed by TRUE Christians today as Jesus so stated upon His Sermon on the Mount!  Do you want to call Jesus a LIAR and therefore exposing yourself to the dreaded Unpardonable Sin? Huh? NO?  I didn't think so, therefore your answer is now changed to a resounding "YES!"

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Let me try and simplify the answer to your title of this thread.  You stated: "Is the morals of the bible reliable in 2020 AD?" Subsequent to reading my post #4, the Christian, whether a Christian in name only, or a TRUE Christian like myself, is to consider the biblical axioms that some of the morals listed by me, are to be followed today and forever until the end of the earth, period!  So your answer is YES, the morals of the Bible listed have to be followed, because who in the hell is going to go against Jesus' inspired words by calling Him a LIAR that they are not to be followed, get it?


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FAUXLAW'S  UNGODLY QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: "What is accepted as God's word is true yesterday, today, and forever. That said, I can argue that such an attitude stands for me, but not necessarily another. We each must make that comparison for ourselves."

WRONG!  No pseudo-christian like you can have his cake and eat it too!  You stumbled and contradicted yourself AGAIN!  You state that Yahweh/Jesus' words are true yesterday, today, and forever, then you convolute your statement by being hypocritical where it is up for the person to make their own opinion in which to follow of Yahweh/Jesus' words!  When will you ever learn? NEVER!



User_2006, barring the FACT that fauxlaw is an example of what a Pseudo Burger King Christian®️ looks and acts like, at least he agrees to the word of Yahweh/Jesus in the stoning to death of certain creation, and the killing of children that curse their parents,  when they go against specific commandments of the 613 total. Pay attention to this type of pseudo-christian on DEBATEART, they will lead you astray with their ungodly Devil Speak.


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YOUR INITIAL QUOTE: "Is the morals of the Bible reliable in 2020 AD?

The Bible morals that our serial killer Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, has set forth within the scriptures are to be followed today and to the letter, no matter if man's laws supersede Jesus' inspired 613 direct laws as stated within the scriptures: “But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)   “EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5)


Therefore, a few examples of many within the same vein from the 613 laws that Jesus' inspired word have given the TRUE Christians like me are as follows:

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

" But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy  22: 20-22)

"And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death." ( Leviticus 24:16)

“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surlily be put to death, their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:13) 

"For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)


Besides, we have Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate stating the following regarding the 613 commandments: 

"Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” (Luke 11:28)

"If ye love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15)

Is there any pseudo-christian that wants to call Jesus a LIAR relative to what He proposed in the passages above, NO THEY DO NOT, case closed. Jesus' Sermon on the Mount cements the laws listed herein as to being followed throughout time until the earth passes away.


If you hang around this forum long enough, you will see that it is haven for the ungodly and Satanic pseudo-christian element, of which you will notice them outright by them insidiously trying to rewrite the Bible to their way of thinking to save face on what Jesus proposed in the first place. I call them Burger King Christians®️, where they want their bible "their way" instead of "Jesus' way"  They will pay upon Judgment Day for sure, praise Jesus' revenge!



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YOUR QUOTE: "God is a universal Reality with variations of interpretations of that Reality within the world. While the Reality of God and truth are constant the interpretations of that Reality vary among people. In other words it doesn't matter, those interpretations aren't relevant to the truth or this discussion. God exists independent of them. The processes of the universe signifying a Creator exists is not relevant to "which" God I'm referring to, or which God religions express. What matters, or the subject at hand is whether or not there is a Creator involved in creating the universe."

 There are only 3 main God concepts that still exist today from the Bronze, Iron, and Middle Ages, which are Yahweh, Jesus, and Allah. These aforementioned Gods ALL CONTRADICT EACH OTHER IN THEIR WRITINGS, but yet their foundation all stem from Abraham.  Therefore, your dissertation above falls flat on its face, get it?  

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YOUR UP IN THE AIR QUOTE: " So in that sense it's pretty concrete, at the very least can give anyone confidence that "God" exists, excuse me that the platform of awareness exists."

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It is so uplifting to see you try and be back on DEBATEART Religion forum, praise!  Jesus and I have a lot in store for you and your biblical ignorance, stay tuned!

Oh, just an update, in your timely departure from this forum for obvious reasons of calling Jesus a LIAR as I had easily shown, have you called Him a LIAR again upon your absence from DEBATEART Religion forum?   I know, once was enough to exclude you from ever going to heaven because you know what you're guilty of, don't you!  



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