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@Lunatic
I had the game basically solved dp1 tho
I did, too, before Banana came in and caused chaos. I literally had it narrowed down to you, Pie, and Mikal, and I was 100% right, lol. After DP1 ended however, I was actually leaning towards Pie/Banana being the team, and being the first kill definitely made me more suspicious. You two honestly were great, but you ended up getting outplayed by Mharman. GG!
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@Savant
Wdym you don't remember? It was literally the exact same game. In any case, this is how she reacted:

hold the flippin phone. Did casey explicitly say you are the first Russian tsar?
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@Savant
Like banana is way calmer here
Wouldn't the more relevant Banana moment from that game be when she felt she had a CC on Earth at the end of DP1? 
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@Savant
If you are town, the odds of at least one scum in a group of three players is 58%.
If you choose three random players other than yourself, the odds are about 64% according to my calculations. (1-(6 choose 3))/(8 choose 3)
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@ILikePie5
Luna, Casey, Wylted? What do yall think?
I'm kinda tired right now, both from work and little sleep, but I'm thinking I may have been right about Savant and Mharman the first time around, lol
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@WyIted
Sperm is good right? Maybe scum is sperm and whatever the scientific term for eggs are. Something like oogyboogy if I recall correct
Please tell me you're just trolling right now. You don't seriously believe sperm and ova are bacteria, right? I need to know that you know they aren't. 
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@iamanabanana
How did you find out? What!
Okay, this changes things significantly. Mharman claims Doctor and Wylted has also claimed something protective (self-protective). That's three protective claims so far. One of you has to be lying. 

Unvote for now 
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@ILikePie5
@iamanabanana
Banana, for right now, do you have a protective role? Yes or no. 

Pie, I see you, and I will respond to you, but it's probably going to have to wait until I'm done with work for me to share all my thoughts. For right now, I'll just say that my own justification barely even makes sense. I think WF just wanted to include my role in the game (it is actually thematically appropriate). 
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@ILikePie5
So you want to lynch me even though I claimed I have a confirmable role?
Since when do you care about being confirmable? Being confirmable means jack shit. Plus, you said it's mostly useless, right?
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@ILikePie5
@iamanabanana
We’ll never know till he gets lynched.
This is not how you play mafia.

??? You’re comparing my reaction to Earth last game and saying my play style is different because I didn’t react the same way towards Savant when Earth and Savant don’t play the same way.
Then explain how Savant is behaviorally different this game.

I was referring to your balance argument. We don’t have the full picture if either or both of them are town. 
If one of them claims something protective, I'll reevaluate. Why haven't you tagged Banana yourself? Here, I'll do it for you. In the meantime, I'm working based off the info I have.

And I explained the balance argument to you about the negative utility aspect with the Doctor and its extreme weakness by needing to select the scum NKer to begin with.
Avoider really isn't all that different from Brave Townie imo. And it's not the only role where you have to select the NKer for it to be effective. Shield (on MafiaScum) is like that as well.

Also, are you just going to ignore my argument against Savant? Is your justification as weak as his?
Mine is actually super weak. And I'm not ignoring the case for scum Savant, I just believe in town Savant more. It's half deduction, half gut feeling. 
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@ILikePie5
Doesn’t mean that he’s not scum. 
No, but again, Savant probably wouldn't be eager to straightclaim his scum character.

That’s a false equivalency. Earth is Earth. His play style was exactly the way it was as town, which I explained to Mikal. In fact, I think I said that if Earth is scum, Survivor was the fake claim or he was claiming his true character. His behavior though matched his town behavior even though it was scummy. That characterization doesn’t exist with Savant.
??? I genuinely don't know what you're talking about. Savant hasn't been acting any differently in this game from what I've seen. The percentages thing is new-ish, but that started in the previous game, and it makes sense that he'd continue with it.

You’re also forgetting that Banana and Mikal haven’t checked in yet either, and as you said, we don’t know the roles. 
They both have. Mikal is pure null for me, and you also townread Banana. Contradict yourself much?

I’m not the lynch today. 
Don't get too cocky. 

Why do you townread Savant? What behavior or character/role/justification reason do you have?
I just explained this... Character and balance... 

Pie's logic is so bad, lol
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
First off virus is a synonym for disease in my book and bacteria is just the shit you wash off your hand to prevent viruses(Aka disease).
I can see Wylted of all people making a statement like this in all sincerity LMAO
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
Okay, so one thing I couldn't help but notice about Pie is how he hasn't really taken into consideration my argument about Savant likely not faking his character in this game. Like I said:

Hold on, I just realized that everybody knows Salmonella, so it's probably not a fake character claim, and I don't think Savant would be eager to straightclaim his character so early. 
This is significant, because in the last game, it was the main reason Pie was townreading Earth in spite of the evidence against him. And honestly, I'd say the case against Earth was about as strong as or stronger than the case against Savant right now. This feels like a change in playstyle for Pie.

The other argument of mine he hasn't responded to? Balance. I'm getting the feeling that Mharman, Savant, and Wylted really are all town, and part of that is balancing. Doctor is like Cop in that it's considered a pretty standard role, but it can also be very strong. The Enabler adds a bit of swing, but a role like Wylted's which can still potentially stop the NK even with the Doctor or Enabler dead helps prevent too much swing. It's actually some nice balance, and from what we've seen of WF so far, he seems to have the knack for it. Of course, this is all assuming everyone is telling the truth, but again, that's what my intuition is telling me.

Honestly, it might be way too early for me to narrow it down this much, but I get the feeling that the scum are among (Pie, Luna, Mikal). So yeah, I'm down to lynch Pie tonight. Even if he's town, it really helps with my PoE.

VTL Pie
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
I actually think Wylted might be right about Pie being scum, for a very particular reason. I'll explain later. Like I said, busy, busy today. 
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@ILikePie5
Leprosy and TB are not viruses.
No, but they are diseases caused by Mycobacteria. 

And he earlier in the DP said he didn’t know what I was talking about when I mentioned TB and Leprosy.
Can you point me to this? 

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Microbiology Mafia DP1
Just saw #458. I don't think Wylted made that up.
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
Wylted is making it really hard for me to read him this game. On the one hand, behaviorally speaking, he feels normal to me, the way he's all over the place and so strong in his convictions. On the other hand, I really don't like the lack of a real justification for his role. It feels like it could be an excuse for not having to come up with a justification in the first place.

Disagreed with Pie on it being a pseudo-cc of Mharman, however. Yes, it's technically protective, but only self-protective, and only in very narrow circumstances. You can have a protective and a self-protective role in the same game; it's not all that uncommon. It could also balance for the Enabler, assuming that everyone who has claimed so far is telling the truth.

That said, given that we are running out of time in the DP, I'm okay with Wylted as a compromise lynch since his role isn't that useful even if he is town.
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
I have thoughts on Wylted's claim, but I'll have to share them later, probably during my next break. I'm super busy today. 
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@ILikePie5
Can you point me to where you see this?
#271. Though in retrospect, I realize that Savant was probably pushing Mharman mainly due to him having the lowest percentage according to Savant's code. I also somehow missed that Savant had already claimed Enabler by that point (probably because it came right before AR suddenly appeared to cause more dumb drama). The post itself is still sus, though. It's like he knew Mharman was the doctor somehow.
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Hold on, I just realized that everybody knows Salmonella, so it's probably not a fake character claim, and I don't think Savant would be eager to straightclaim his character so early. I need to rethink this.

Unvote
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
Basically, the whole situation with Savant voting for Mharman and Mharman claiming doctor felt staged to me. 
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@Savant
#359 - SL - A bit opportunistic, plus a weird assumption with no detailed analysis to go with it.
Fair enough, I was planning on expanding on my thoughts on my break, which is now. Basically, it was the way you suggested that Mharman might have some role which could town confirm him and voted for him for no clear reason. And then, hey presto, he's the doctor! But he weirdly refused to claim his character, which made me think that he may have asked if there was a Doctor and was told no, but maybe his character question didn't work out so well. Or, maybe he just hasn't come up with anything good.
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@Savant
I'm assuming your scum lean on everyone except Mharman is a mistake.
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@Savant
1) If you're right, the game is basically solved, and you don't need to lynch either of us today.
Okay, this is a HORRIBLE defense, and it reminds me of Austin's defense of Savant in BotW Mafia. Also, the idea that WIFOM doesn't work this far out from MYLO... What? 

I'm actually pretty comfortable doing this. 

VTL Savant 
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
Anyone else getting the vibe that Savant and Mharman are a team? 
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@Mharman
Withholding my character to make fake claiming slightly harder for scum.
This makes no sense. You already claimed your role, just full claim. 
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@Mharman
Character/justification? 
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@ILikePie5
Then I saw post 195 and that reads a lot like what Savant would post. He basically already does in his chunk posts. I’ve also never seen Wylted go back to previous games if I recall correctly
Idk, rereading the back and forth between Savant and Wylted, it doesn't feel staged to me. I am having a hard time reading them, however. I will say that the only other time I can remember Wylted building a whole case against someone was in Heroic Heroes, where he was scum. He did say that he went back to look at my previous posts to judge me in UPick, however, and correctly figured out that I was scum. So there's that. 
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
Okay, I'm not going to stay up very late tonight, but I did say I would expand on my thoughts a bit, so here I am. Regarding Wylted, being different, I guess it is technically true that a change in behavior is not necessarily a scumtell, but it is a good thing to look out for. Players do tend to act slightly differently when they're scum vs town, after all. That's just obvious. Also, I don't think I was any different in terms of my behavior in the last game, aside from generally being more active.

Wylted claiming to have been using an AI is... weird? I kind of believe it tho, mostly just because of this one line:

Looking closer at earth they seem to want to appease the crowd so to speak which is putting me off.
It's weird that Wylted would use singular 'they' to refer to Earth, especially given that, from my memory, he thinks that singular they is dehumanizing (which it isn't since it's exclusively animate in English and even using it for non-human animate referents is rare, but I digress.) An AI wouldn't necessarily know Earth's gender, however. Idk, I might be looking too deep into nothing, but DP1 is the time to do that. Even if it is true, however, I don't know what to make of Wylted using an AI to write posts for him.

As for Wylted's big "this is why Mharman is scum post" ...Maybe I'm just too tired to really engage with this game, but I'm not really seeing it. Mharman feels pretty normal to me so far. I wouldn't exactly consider him a town lean, but he's not a scum lean, either. He's just in my null camp.

I'm sorry, I really want to put more effort into this game, but I'm fucking exhausted from work. Lots of overtime every week. This is why I wanted to sit out the last game. I only ended up being more active than normal because it started on the weekend when I was free. I'm just going to go to bed and hopefully return to this in the morning before work.
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@WyIted
I'll expand on my thoughts more when I get home, but right now I'm not seeing the case against Mharman. 
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@ILikePie5
Anything in particular you don't like about it?
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
I'm sorry everyone, I know I'm not up to my usual standards right now. Work has been occupying basically all my time, and on top of that, I dropped my phone last night and it broke. The hinge won't open all the way now (I have one of those fancy new folding smartphones) and the touchscreen is super wonky now. It's barely functional. Normally I'd drop out, but with the Town plagued by inactivity as it is, I don't want that to everyone else.

A few quick reads for now: Wylted very likely did not fake his claim imo. He was quick to claim and this seems like a tough one to research tbh. Plus, he's notoriously pretty bad at fakeclaiming. His fakeclaim last game was one of the worst I've ever seen. Also, behaviorally, his logic behind thinking WF modspewed AR as scum is kind of dumb, but I remember Austin once saying that using bad logic is a town tell for Wylted, and in my experience, that seems to be accurate. 

Banana's entrance feels fine to me. Earth volunteering himself feels good to me. Can't townread Savant for his effort this game like in the last one, so he's null for now. So is everyone else I haven't mentioned. 
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
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@Mharman
Thoughts, you guys?
Sorry, I've been at work all day. I feel like I'm not going to be that helpful until the weekend comes. For now, I have a TL on Wylted for behavioral reasons (I'll expand later). I'll have to reread to get solid reads on everyone else. The inactivity definitely isn't helping me out. 
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@whiteflame
There's a step above it called Domain, and the interesting thing is that there are two whole domains for Prokaryotes (single celled organisms without a nucleus) - Bacteria and Archaea - and just one domain for everything else - Eukarya.
I see you aren't a believer in the two-domain classification system, then. 
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@Savant
@WyIted
Actually, I was thinking of the signups page. 

No, you don't need to have detailed knowledge of microbiology to understand the theme. 
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@WyIted
This guy has a PHD in biology there is a good chance the theme split is some nuance none of us have any hope of deciphering without the same specialized knowledge. 
I mean, WF quite explicitly said this wasn't the case in the OP.
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@ILikePie5
I would double check. AI isn’t always accurate.
Fair enough. Wikipedia also says gram negative. 
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Microbiology Mafia DP1
Checking in. Not going to be very active today. Google AI says I'm gram negative. I don't know what that means. 
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@David
Hoping we can avoid that with the newer site by not relying on one owner. Gonna give multiple people access to the code. If you are willing to devote an hour or two to learning Node.js, plz join us. I can send you the discord link.
This is exactly what we will be doing to ensure continuity. 

That's good! I think the number one other thing you need to do unlike this site is have some actual good search engine optimization. It's crazy how difficult it actually was for me to stumble upon this one. 
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@Savant
I've taught myself some coding to a very basic level in the past. I'll consider it.
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New community announcement
Is this going to become a cyclical thing, with the website dying and being reborn out of the same community?
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Mafia Mod Sign-Up List
Current Mafia:

None

Sign ups:

Whiteflame - Microbiology

In the Hopper:

Earth - Tales of Symphonia/Xenogears/Skyrim Mafia
iLikePie5

On hold

Mharman
Wylted - Lulsec
Casey Risk - Deltarune Mafia
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Microbiology Mafia Signups
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@Lunatic
I'll explain my thoughts more after work 
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nightless mafia signups
Fine

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@Lunatic
To be fair, pie was unrelenting on this point, and it was one of the major things that got him killed lol 
Yeah, fair play to Pie. I just wish the rest of the town would have listened to him on that point.
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Also, what happened with Austin and Moozer both claiming they didn't submit a guess? Was that really just a moderator error?
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Wow, good job to the mafia! I totally didn't suspect Mikal at all after late DP1.

I will say, I am very frustrated that the town believed Banana when she claimed my character and role. I thought it was SO OBVIOUS that I was softing Fear Factor. Even Wylted pointed this out! I was actually beginning to sus Banana by the end of day one and was considering targeting her, but I had been laying down hints that I was going to use it on Mharman and wanted the town to actually be able to follow my hints correctly in case I died. I didn't expect to be Janitored, however.

Balance feels slightly scumsided tbh, but it was a good game regardless!
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@Mharman
if that's hammer lemme post my notes
Not hammer yet, WyIted should be at L-1
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@Savant
Standard Operating Practice. It's used for negative utility roles that are typically automatically claimed, like Miller and Hated. 
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