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@Cerulean
How would the Super Governor have interacted with Moozer's ability? If the Invention was granted Day 1, would the Doctor have been delayed to Night 1 (following Day 2) or would it have just disappeared?
It would have been wasted. I thought Moozer might have figured that was the case and that's why he didn't use his ability DP1, but nope, I guess he just forgot he had to use his ability during the day. 
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@Lunatic
@Bullish
@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
@Cerulean
We hope you enjoyed the show! 
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@Earth
@whiteflame
@Moozer325
@Owen_T
@iamanabanana
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Mafia:

  • AustinL0926 - You are Scarface! Not the 1983 version, but actually the 1932 original. Yes, even before the famous Al Pacino movie, there was this film, which was inspired by the life of Al Capone. Capone himself actually saw the movie and liked it. Antonio "Tony" Camonte, an Italian gangster in Chicago, rises through the ranks to become the ultimate kingpin, though it all leads to his downfall in the end. Based on this, you might expect to be the Mafia Godfather… But instead, you are the Ninja. If you perform the Night Kill, it will be invisible to movement-based investigative roles. (Tracker, Watcher, etc.) You win with the Mafia.
  • Cerulean - You are King Kong! This classic monster movie would go on to inspire a whole franchise of movies based around the titular ape. A journey to an uncharted island leads to Kong, a giant gorilla-like beast. The climactic scene of Kong climbing the Empire State building with Ann in his hand is as well-known as the movie itself. Because of Kong’s fearsome might and desire for human sacrifice, you are the 1x Mafia Gladiator. One night per game, you may target any player to challenge them to a fight the following day. Only you and the player you challenge will be able to be voted out; however, a VTNL will still be possible. You win with the Mafia.
  • Owen_T - You are Baby Face! This Barbara Stanwyck film depicts a young woman named Lily Powers who seduces many men and uses sex to advance her career and personal status. At the time it was released, it was highly controversial and garnered negative reactions in the press. These days, film historians appreciate it for its boundary-pushing nature and its reflection of depression-era anxieties. Because of Powers’s use of sex to manipulate men, you are the Manipulative JOAT - 1x Redirector, 1x Deflector, 1x Bus Driver. You may use one ability per night, but may not use any ability more than once. You win with the Mafia.
Town:

  • WyIted - You are Rear Window! This classic Hitchcock film starring James Stewart depicts a recently disabled man who spends a lot of time moping around at home while watching his neighborhood through the rear window of his apartment, where he sees evidence that one of his neighbors has just committed a murder. You are the Watcher. Once per night, you may choose to watch any player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who, if anyone, visited them that night. You win with the Town.
  • Lunatic - You are Rashomon! This 1950 Japanese film by director Akira Kurosawa was the first film from a non-Western nation to really catch the attention of Western film critics and opened up the doors for cinema in other parts of the world. Rashomon popularized the trope of a story told by several different participants, each giving a completely different and contradictory tale. In the film, a crime has occurred, but the only things all the witnesses agree on are that a samurai was killed and his wife was raped by a bandit, but each tells the story of how it all happened completely differently, with the implication being that they all told lies based on their roles within Japanese society at the time. Because of this search for truth that provides no clear answers as to exactly who is guilty of what, you are the Odd-Night Neapolitan Cop. On odd-numbered nights, you may investigate any other player to learn (assuming no interference with your actions) if they are Vanilla Town or not. You win with the Town.
  • ILikePie5 - You are Seven Samurai! This Akira Kurosawa film released in 1954 is still considered one of the greatest samurai films of all time, sometimes even one of the greatest films in general. Set during the Sengoku Jidai or ‘Warring States’ period of Japanese history, this film is centered around a small village which must hire samurai to protect it from bandits. Unlike many other samurai movies which depict the samurai as glorious heroes who have to save idiotic villagers, Seven Samurai takes a more nuanced view, showing the samurai as not all being honorable, while the villagers were still competent on their own, they simply needed help to defend themselves. Because the samurai came to aid the village and protect it from being ransacked, you are the Strengthener. Once per night, you may target any player to prevent their night actions (if they take any) from being interfered with, such as by a Roleblocker, Redirector, etc. You win with the Town.
  • Moozer325 - You are It’s A Wonderful Life! This film is considered a Christmas classic these days, but received mixed reviews upon release and did very poorly at the box office, causing it to be overlooked and largely forgotten until its copyright, having not been renewed, expired, at which point it could be broadcast without companies needing to pay for any licensing fees, and the film surged in popularity. In the movie, God assigns an angel named Clarence, who has yet to gain his wings, to save George Bailey, a suicidal man. Now, you can give players their wings. You are the 2x Daytime Doctor Inventor. Two days per game, you may choose any player to turn into a Doctor on the following night. That night and that night only, they will be able to target any other player to save them from lethal night actions. You win with the Town.
  • Bullish - You are 12 Angry Men! This classic film based on a stage play of the same name is the ultimate example of doing a lot with a little. With the vast majority of the film taking place in a single room and just twelve characters with actors listed in the credits, this film still manages to tell a great story. A jury is almost unanimous in wanting to find a man accused of murder guilty, but one juror has doubts and manages to change the minds of everyone else. Because of this, you are the 1x Super Governor. If anyone is ever voted out who you did NOT vote for, the day will enter Twilight, during which you may choose to pardon the condemned player. If you do so, they will not be killed and the following night phase will be skipped over entirely. You may only use this ability once per game, and you may not use it to save yourself. You may also pre-pardon a person before Twilight starts if you think they are going to be lynched by messaging me before the day ends. You win with the Town.
  • Earth - You are The Ten Commandments! This 1956 film was the most expensive ever made at the time of its release, but it was also a great success at the box office. Filmed on location in the Sinai peninsula, The Ten Commandments retells the story of Moses from the Bible book of Exodus, from his birth in Egypt to his delivery of the Hebrews to the promised land. Now, it is your turn to help deliver the town to victory. You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities, but you have your vote and your voice. Use them to help expose and defeat the Mafia. You win with the Town. 
  • whiteflame - You are Some Like It Hot! This classic comedy depicts two male musicians who must disguise themselves as women in order to hide themselves from the mafia after witnessing them committing a crime. Move over RuPaul, Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon are in town! Now, it is your turn to help expose the mafia. You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities, but you have your vote and your voice. Use them to help expose and defeat the Mafia. You win with the Town. 
  • iamanabanana - You are Casablanca! This classic Humphrey Bogart film was set and filmed during World War II. An American expat in Morocco, controlled by Vichy France, is confronted by an ex-lover of his who is trying to secure exit visas for her and her husband so they can flee from the Nazis. Conflicted, Rick Blaine must choose between following his own desires and doing the right thing. Now, it is up to you to help save the town from an evil force. You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities, but you have your vote and your voice. Use them to help expose and defeat the Mafia. You win with the Town. 

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That's the game! With the Mafia at parity with the Town... 

IT'S A MAFIA VICTORY!

So, I screwed up when I made this game. Maybe not as bad as I thought I had given that it got down to the final three, but still, it was too scumsided. Three vanillas was simply too many in a game where the mafia had the roles that they had. Ninja and the Manipulative JOAT are very good mafia roles, and Gladiator is confirmable and heavily town-leaning. 

That being said, I certainly don't think the town was hopeless this game. Moozer's role was potentially very good for the town. Best case scenario, it stops the NK and confirms him, as well as basically confirming whoever was turned into a doctor. The fact that the role is similar in concept to Owen's role from the last game is actually just a coincidence -- I had it in mind even before Austin's game started. Though, perhaps it's not a total coincidence since it was inspired by JoeBob's role in Austin's UPick Mafia. 

Moozer, I know you're still relatively new at this, so I'm not going to go too hard on you. But I am going to go a little hard on you, because you're not THAT new anymore. You need to make sure you adequately understand your role right when the game begins. You had the town's best role, and you completely wasted it by not using it and then doing hardly anything to defend yourself. Austin had been highly sussed since DP1 and if you hadn't made yourself a prime lynch target, there's a good chance he would have been killed instead, and if Wylted had been protected with your help, he could have even caught Cerulean red-handed. But you didn't ask questions, you didn't use your role, and the whole town paid the price for your mistake. 

Also, you shouldn't have honestly said that you were going to give the Doc to Luna. He was already an obvious choice for the NK, and that just made it a no-brainer. Lying about giving it to Luna but actually giving it to Bullish would have been a good move. Being completely honest was not.

Luna, you made a couple mistakes that could have gotten you highly sussed, though it didn’t turn out that way. First, you called yourself a Vanilla Cop, but described yourself as a Neapolitan, which is a different role and what you actually were. Second, you should have scumread Owen HARD immediately. Miller doesn't make any sense unless there's an alignment Cop or something similar. Why would I include a regular Cop in a game with a Neapolitan? It makes no sense. That being said, everyone seemed to believe your claim, and you were able to confirm WF, as well as Banana to a lesser extent. That was part of why I designed the setup as I did -- the mafia had a lot of power, but so did the town potentially. It all came down to how well everyone used their roles. My mistake was in not giving the town enough power. I think my biggest design flaw here was including the Ninja in a game where the only investigatives were a Watcher and an Odd-Night Neapolitan Cop. Austin should have been restricted to odd or even nights, maybe even made a 1x. 

Also, I included Bullish's role as a direct counter to Cerulean's. I wish there had been more discussion about how their roles interacted. 

This might be a bit controversial, but I'm giving Town MVP to Wylted. Sacrificing himself to prevent the town from mislynching him at MYLO/LYLO is the type of selfless move that the town needed for a shot at winning. Whiteflame is a close second. His analysis was logical and overall very good. His mistakes were just scumreading Moozer (who, although town, was objectively scummy) and assuming the game was reasonably balanced in the first place (definitely can't blame him for that). Also, he was the only one who was really engaging in theme split analysis, though he missed the mark. 

The theme split was that the Mafia movies were all pre-Code movies. After Owen's flip, this split was solvable, though Cerulean could not have been caught that way as he had fakeclaimed well. 

Speaking of, Cerulean is easily the Mafia MVP. He was widely townread early on and did good research to try and figure out other players' characters. All in all, an excellent Mafia player. 

Anyway, I have a bit more to say, but I'll leave it here for now. I hope everyone had some fun despite how lopsided the balance was. If I ever create another Mafia game, I'll definitely have an experienced mod or two give me feedback before starting it. 
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@whiteflame
Putting up the endgame thread now, can you lock this one? 
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Earth was lynched! He was Innocent.

That's the game! I'll have the Endgame thread up in a bit. 
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Earth (1/2): Bullish 
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@Earth
@Bullish
@Cerulean
It's the final scene 
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This DP will last 72 hours and will end on Thursday, Oct 31 at 2:00 PM EDT.

Deceased players:

  • Owen_T - Lynched DP2 - Baby Face - Manipulative JOAT (1x Redirector, 1x Deflector, 1x Bus Driver) 
  • ILikePie5 - Died NP1 - Seven Samurai - Strengthener 
  • Moozer325 - Lynched DP3 - It's a Wonderful Life - 2x Daytime Doctor Inventor 
  • Lunatic - Died NP2 - Rashomon - Odd-Night Neapolitan Cop
  • WyIted - Lynched DP4 - Rear Window - Watcher
  • whiteflame - Died NP3 - Some Like It Hot - Vanilla
  • AustinL0926 - Lynched DP5 - You are Scarface! Not the 1983 version, but actually the 1932 original. Yes, even before the famous Al Pacino movie, there was this film, which was inspired by the life of Al Capone. Capone himself actually saw the movie and liked it. Antonio "Tony" Camonte, an Italian gangster in Chicago, rises through the ranks to become the ultimate kingpin, though it all leads to his downfall in the end. Based on this, you might expect to be the Mafia Godfather… But instead, you are the Ninja. If you perform the Night Kill, it will be invisible to movement-based investigative roles. (Tracker, Watcher, etc.) You win with the Mafia.
  • iamanabanana - Died NP4 - You are Casablanca! This classic Humphrey Bogart film was set and filmed during World War II. An American expat in Morocco, controlled by Vichy France, is confronted by an ex-lover of his who is trying to secure exit visas for her and her husband so they can flee from the Nazis. Conflicted, Rick Blaine must choose between following his own desires and doing the right thing. Now, it is up to you to help save the town from an evil force. You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities, but you have your vote and your voice. Use them to help expose and defeat the Mafia. You win with the Town.
Living players:

  1. Bullish
  2. Cerulean
  3. Earth
With three living players, it takes two votes to reach a majority. 
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@whiteflame
FINAL VOTE TALLY:

Austin (3/3): Cerulean, Banana, Bullish
Cerulean (1/3): Austin

Austin was lynched! He was Guilty.

Submit all night actions within 24 hours. Lock, please! 
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Less than 24 hours remain in the DP. 
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Austin (2/3): Cerulean, Banana
Cerulean (1/3): Austin
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Cerulean (1/3): Austin
Austin (1/3): Cerulean

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Cerulean (1/3): Austin
Austin (1/3): Cerulean
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Austin (1/3): Earth
Cerulean (1/3): Austin 
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@Earth
@Bullish
@AustinL0926
@Cerulean
@iamanabanana
The end draws near. 
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This DP will last 72 hours and will end on Monday, Oct 28 at 2:30 PM EDT.

Deceased players:

  • Owen_T - Lynched DP2 - Baby Face - Manipulative JOAT (1x Redirector, 1x Deflector, 1x Bus Driver) 
  • ILikePie5 - Died NP1 - Seven Samurai - Strengthener 
  • Moozer325 - Lynched DP3 - It's a Wonderful Life - 2x Daytime Doctor Inventor 
  • Lunatic - Died NP2 - Rashomon - Odd-Night Neapolitan Cop
  • WyIted - Lynched DP4 - You are Rear Window! This classic Hitchcock film starring James Stewart depicts a recently disabled man who spends a lot of time moping around at home while watching his neighborhood through the rear window of his apartment, where he sees evidence that one of his neighbors has just committed a murder. You are the Watcher. Once per night, you may choose to watch any player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who, if anyone, visited them that night. You win with the Town.
  • whiteflame - Died NP3 - You are Some Like It Hot! This classic comedy depicts two male musicians who must disguise themselves as women in order to hide themselves from the mafia after witnessing them committing a crime. Move over RuPaul, Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon are in town! Now, it is your turn to help expose the mafia. You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special abilities, but you have your vote and your voice. Use them to help expose and defeat the Mafia. You win with the Town.
Living players:

  1. AustinL0926 
  2. Bullish
  3. Cerulean
  4. Earth
  5. iamanabanana
With five living players, it takes three votes to reach a majority. 
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@whiteflame
FINAL VOTE TALLY:

Wylted (4/4): Bullish, Austin, Cerulean, Wylted
Cerulean (1/4): Banana

Wylted was defeated! He was Innocent.

Submit all night actions within 24 hours. Lock, please! 
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Less than 24 hours remain in the DP. 
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Wylted (2/4): Bullish, Austin
Cerulean (1/4): Banana 

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Wylted (3/4): Bullish, Austin, WyIted
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Wylted (3/4): Bullish, Austin, WyIted 
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Wylted (2/4): Bullish, Austin 
VTNL (1/4): Wylted
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@Earth
@whiteflame
@Bullish
@AustinL0926
@iamanabanana
Come watch the show! 
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@WyIted
@Cerulean
Prepare yourselves for combat 
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IT'S A FIGHT TO THE DEATH!

WyIted and Cerulean are engaged in a death battle! They are the only two players who may receive votes during this DP. Votes for other players will not be counted. If a majority votes to VTNL, then the day will simply end without a lynch and the game will continue to the next NP. However, if no majority is reached by the time the DP ends, then one of the contestants will be chosen at random to be executed. 

May the better combatant win! 
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This DP will last 72 hours and will end on Friday, October 25, at 1:45 PM EDT. 

Deceased players:

  • Owen_T - Lynched DP2 - Baby Face - Manipulative JOAT (1x Redirector, 1x Deflector, 1x Bus Driver)
  • ILikePie5 - Died NP1 - Seven Samurai - Strengthener
  • Moozer325 - Lynched DP3 - You are It’s A Wonderful Life! This film is considered a Christmas classic these days, but received mixed reviews upon release and did very poorly at the box office, causing it to be overlooked and largely forgotten until it's copyright, having not been renewed, expired, at which point it could be broadcast without companies needing to pay for any licensing fees, and the film surged in popularity. In the movie, God assigns an angel named Clarence, who has yet to gain his wings, to save George Bailey, a suicidal man. Now, you can give players their wings. You are the 2x Daytime Doctor Inventor. Two days per game, you may choose any player to turn into a Doctor on the following night. That night and that night only, they will be able to target any other player to save them from lethal night actions. You win with the Town.
  • Lunatic - Died NP2 - You are Rashomon! This 1950 Japanese film by director Akira Kurosawa was the first film from a non-Western nation to really catch the attention of Western film critics and opened up the doors for cinema in other parts of the world. Rashomon popularized the trope of a story told by several different participants, each giving a completely different and contradictory tale. In the film, a crime has occurred, but the only things all the witnesses agree on are that a samurai was killed and his wife was raped by a bandit, but each tells the story of how it all happened completely differently, with the implication being that they all told lies based on their roles within Japanese society at the time. Because of this search for truth that provides no clear answers as to exactly who is guilty of what, you are the Odd-Night Neapolitan Cop. On odd-numbered nights, you may investigate any other player to learn (assuming no interference with your actions) if they are Vanilla Town or not. You win with the Town.
Living players:

  1. WyIted
  2. AustinL0926 
  3. whiteflame
  4. Bullish
  5. Cerulean
  6. Earth
  7. iamanabanana
With seven living players, it takes four votes to reach a majority. 
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@whiteflame
FINAL VOTE TALLY:

Moozer (5/5): Whiteflame, Banana, Cerulean, Bullish, Earth 
Whiteflame (1/5): Moozer
Wylted (1/5): Austin

Moozer was lynched! He was Innocent. Submit all night actions within 24 hours.

Let me know if there is an error with the vote count. Otherwise, lock, please! 
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STOP TALKING 
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Approximately 1 hour remaining in the DP. 
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Moozer (3/5): Whiteflame, Banana, Cerulean 
Whiteflame (2/5): Bullish, Moozer
Wylted (1/5): Austin



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Moozer (4/5): Whiteflame, WyIted, Banana, Cerulean 
Whiteflame (2/5): Bullish, Moozer
Wylted (1/5): Austin

About 4 hours remain in the DP. 

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@Moozer325
About 15 and a half hours remain in the DP. 
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Moozer (3/5): Whiteflame, WyIted, Banana
Whiteflame (1/5): Bullish
Wylted (1/5): Austin

Did you know? The term 'box office' is often said to be derived from physical boxes that were used to collect theater admissions. However, the word 'box' more likely referred to reserved box seating sections in theaters. In either case, it was used well before the first movies were made, but was used to refer to movie theaters by extension, and eventually came to refer to total global sales.
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Moozer (4/5): Whiteflame, WyIted, Earth, Banana
Whiteflame (1/5): Bullish
Wylted (1/5): Austin

Did you know? Alfred Hitchcock made a cameo appearance in 40 of his films.

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Moozer (2/5): Whiteflame, WyIted
Whiteflame (2/5): Bullish, Austin 
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Moozer (2/5): Whiteflame, WyIted
Whiteflame (1/5): Bullish 

Did you know? Bambi and Bambi II hold the record for the longest time between a movie and its sequel, with the original movie being released in 1942 and its direct-to-video sequel 64 years later in 2006. 
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Wylted (1/5): Whiteflame 
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@Earth
@Bullish
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@iamanabanana
Act 3 begins 
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@Moozer325
Return to your seats 
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This DP will last 72 hours and will end at 2:30 PM EDT on Monday, Oct 21. Note: last night was considered to be NP1 although taking place after DP2, due to being the first completed night phase of the game.

Deceased players:

  • Owen_T - Lynched DP2 - You are Baby Face! This Barbara Stanwyck film depicts a young woman named Lily Powers who seduces many men and uses sex to advance her career and personal status. At the time it was released, it was highly controversial and garnered negative reactions in the press. These days, film historians appreciate it for its boundary-pushing nature and its reflection of depression-era anxieties. Because of Powers’s use of sex to manipulate men, you are the Manipulative JOAT - 1x Redirector, 1x Deflector, 1x Bus Driver. You may use one ability per night, but may not use any ability more than once. You win with the Mafia. 
  • ILikePie5 - Died NP1 - You are Seven Samurai! This Akira Kurosawa film released in 1954 is still considered one of the greatest samurai films of all time, sometimes even one of the greatest films in general. Set during the Sengoku Jidai or ‘Warring States’ period of Japanese history, this film is centered around a small village which must hire samurai to protect it from bandits. Unlike many other samurai movies which depict the samurai as glorious heroes who have to save idiotic villagers, Seven Samurai takes a more nuanced view, showing the samurai as not all being honorable, while the villagers were still competent on their own, they simply needed help to defend themselves. Because the samurai came to aid the village and protect it from being ransacked, you are the Strengthener. Once per night, you may target any player to prevent their night actions (if they take any) from being interfered with, such as by a Roleblocker, Redirector, etc. You win with the Town.
Living players:

  1. Moozer325 
  2. WyIted
  3. Lunatic 
  4. AustinL0926 
  5. whiteflame
  6. Bullish
  7. Cerulean
  8. Earth
  9. iamanabanana
With nine living players, it takes five votes to reach a majority. 
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@whiteflame
Lock, please! 
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FINAL VOTE TALLY:

Owen (6/6): Pie, Bullish, Austin, Banana, WyIted, Moozer

Owen was lynched! He was Guilty. Submit night actions within 24 hours. 
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Owen (4/6): Pie, Bullish, Austin, Banana
Banana (1/6): Wylted

Approximately 9 hours remain in the DP. 

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Owen (4/6): Pie, Bullish, Austin, Banana
Banana (1/6): Wylted 
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Owen (3/6): Pie, WyIted, Bullish 

Did you know? At the time it was released, Cleopatra was the most expensive film ever made, and though it was the highest-grossing film of 1963, it initially lost money due to its exorbitant production and marketing costs. 
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Owen (1/6): Pie 

Did you know? The term 'cut', in reference to film editing, comes from when filmmakers actually had to physically cut reels of film. 
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@iamanabanana
Mafia time 
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