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Alright, putting aside Wylted's weird and unrelated posts, I actually find myself in the same boat as Austin in that I don't have any clear scumreads on anyone.
Regarding negative utility roles that tend to get claimed early, I think my role might count? It's not a role like PGO which can cause a whole lot of chaos, but it's not really good for the town either.
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@Savant
Since Casey claimed last, and because I think he'd be less likely to consider this than Austin when fake claiming, he's now a slight scum read.
To be fair, I would have claimed earlier, but I've been really busy at work and have hardly had a moment to take a break, aside from my actual designated breaks. My last two hours look like they're going to be quieter, but everyone's probably going to be offline anyway, so 🤷
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@Lunatic
I'm from US House of Representatives Mafia
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Pie started this thread on an evening while I'm at work and working overtime. I'll keep up as much as I can, but I'll be low activity until tomorrow.
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@3RU7AL
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-biden-polls
Hmm, I guess that was just wishful thinking on my part to believe it could be true.
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All in all a GG. I think my only major mistake was going along with the plan to VTNL instead of pushing for a lynch. I was very confident the scum were WF and Moozer, but I actually sussed Moozer more. Oh, well. As I said, GG.
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@whiteflame
Yep. Didn’t know if he could Role Cop me, but asked Luna and when he said yes, we went for it.
Damn, that ended up working out perfectly for you. I was thinking about tracking Moozer instead, but I settled on Earth. Well-played.
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@Earth
Earth, did you rolecop Whiteflame because you were expecting me to track you?
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This does answer a lot of my questions about Savant's role tho. Nothing he said quite matched up with his doctor claim.
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Well, I was right about Whiteflame being the ninja anyway. I didn't see third party roles coming into play.
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@Savant
I also said I wouldn't be able to use my role n2, so there was no reason to rb me then.
Good point, I could be wrong about that. I still think WF is the ninja.
Breaks are never long enough. I'll be back later.
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Calling it now, everyone told the truth about what game they're from, WF is the ninja, and Moozer is the Mafia JOAT. (What does that stand for anyway?)
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If he's scum, the other scum is probably Casey "Everybody say what they did tonight so I can pretend I tracked you" Risk.
The reason I did that was that I was hoping to catch someone in a lie. Last night, my PoE narrowed it down to Earth, Moozer, and WF. I could have tracked WF as well, but I wanted to visit someone else, so I chose Earth. I still wasn't sure how to feel at the start of this DP, so I wanted everyone else's claims first. Maybe I should have said who I tracked first. But, I wanted to see if Earth would lie, and he didn't. That's my reasoning behind what I did. Up to you to believe or disbelieve it.
Also, if WF really is from Fairy Tail Mafia, he could be the ninja. That would explain why he apparently didn't visit anyone. Moozer might be Mafia JOAT. Night one Janitor on Savant, but he didn't die so it was ineffective. NP2, he roleblocked Savant so he couldn't save anyone. It all adds up.
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@whiteflame
A lot going on here and I have limited time to chat. I think one point in favor of WF being scum is trying to convince us that we can vtnl today, despite what I had Luna clarify right at the start of DP1. That, and he said he PM'ed Luna instead of tagging him in this thread. Maybe a way that he could lie to us all and make us falsely believe we could no-lynch? Maybe I'm reading too deep into it, but WF townread me for my early attempt to clarify how lynching works this game.
I sus Moozer because his actions don't really make much sense to me, and when suspicion was thrown his way, he was just like "yeah, lynch me" on a MYLO round, which is anti-town behavior.
Just so we're all clear here: Lunatic, if we vtnl, will someone be lynched at random?
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Can't say too much til my break, but I'm thinking it's WF and Moozer. I'll explain later.
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My shift is about to start. Given that this is MYLO and we don't have the luxury of not lynching someone, let's not hammer. I'm not voting until my shift is over and I've had more time to engage in discussion.
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@Savant
I still think that the fact that Whiteflame didn't visit anyone NP1 is worth something. It doesn't prove that he's town by any means, but it's not nothing.
By the way, when the mafia vote to kill someone at night, how does it get decided who ends up visiting the victim? That's something I'm not clear on.
I'm really not sure how to feel about Moozer. Really, no one gives me strong scum vibes right now.
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@Savant
We don't have the option to lynch no one. If we vtnl, a random person gets picked.
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@Earth
@Moozer325
I used my RB on WF.
Okay, I can confirm that Earth visited Whiteflame last NP. Moozer, what did you do?
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@Earth
@Savant
@Moozer325
I'm still a bit confused about your role for now, but I'll get around to that later. For now, I want NP claims from Earth and Moozer.
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@Savant
I want everyone to get their night actions out on the record first before I vote for anyone.
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Damn, there goes my top unconfirmed townread.
Alright, everybody say what they did last night.
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@Lunatic
Not sure what to make of all this rn. For now,
VTL Barney
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@ILikePie5
Basically, he and Barney were the ones I was most unsure of how to read. I debated with myself a lot about which of the two I should track, and finally settled on WF. Not sure if it was the right decision or not, but it's what I did.
My break is about over, be back later.
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@Savant
Hold on a second Savant, there's something I'm not understanding here. You claim to be the doctor and that you protected yourself, but according to the 13RW Mafia endgame, you shouldn't be able to protect yourself; only other people. Unless I'm just reading that wrong?
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@ILikePie5
I'm the Tracker. Last night I tracked Whiteflame, who visited nobody.
I buy what Moozer says tbh. When I messaged Luna, he responded by saying "confirmed" and only later told me that Whiteflame didn't visit anybody.
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I'm at work rn. I'll talk more later, but for now, I'll say that Whiteflame is likely town.
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@AustinL0926
Oof, and you were just a little bit too late, too. :/
Hey, at least we were able to have this game tho.
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@Lunatic
@AustinL0926
Okay, time's up.
VTL AustinL0926
Luna, I think we have enough votes now.
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@Barney
I think that's 4 total votes for Austin now? I'll wait till 10:00 my time (EDT). If he still hasn't posted anything by then, I'll add the final vote.
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@Barney
@Savant
Tie game, no one gets any points. Although, we're on Dart, not DDO, so I guess you both get the points. Well, they don't matter anyway, so I'll be generous.
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@Savant
🅰️♓, ℹ️ 👢⭕♈📧 ⛎⚡ℹ️♑⛽ 🌴📧©️♓♑ℹ️©️🅰️👢ℹ️🌴ℹ️📧⚡ 🌴⭕ 🅱️📧♑↩️ 🌴♓📧 ®️⛎👢📧⚡
(10 points to whoever decodes that first)
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Oh, simultaneous posting between Barney and me, nvm then.
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@Barney
I don't know about everyone else, but I believe my role has been slightly modified from the previous game. I have a limited number of votes after I die
According to the Fast Food Mafia Endgame, that's how the role worked originally as well. Unless you can only vote once after you die?
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I largely agree with WF and Moozer. If Austin claims an important role and doesn't get cc'ed, I say it's probably better to lynch Barney. Otherwise, Austin is at the top of my lynch list.
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@ILikePie5
We should probably get Austin or white flame to claim, and then save the rest for another DP.Who do you want out of those 2?
I'm not the one you asked, but personally, I'd go after Austin since he's been so quiet. I'd be perfectly fine with either tho.
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@Earth
Can we not do this confirmable shit again?
Sorry, by 'role confirmation' I meant 'role claim'. Terminology mistake.
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@whiteflame
Fair enough, I had forgotten about Earth's role confirmation for a moment. I was thinking we only had two confirmations -- Barney and JoeBob. If you want to wait to do a full reveal, I'm fine with that for now.
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@whiteflame
@Savant
Fair enough, but I'll hold you to that.
Whiteflame, your full role claim has been requested.
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@Savant
@Moozer325
That's a good point. I think it's good to make a distinction between a 'soft confirmable' role (like Austin's claimed role in BotW Mafia) and a 'hard confirmable' role (like Lunatic's role in the same game). JoeBob's role is hard confirmable. As for Savant, we have yet to see what their role actually is.
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@ILikePie5
We've got a hard claim from JoeBob and an unconfirmed but highly probable Restless Spirit claim from Barney. Should we try to get claims from everyone else now?
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I'm almost positive Pie has the correct solution. It all just makes so much sense and is so coherent.
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@ILikePie5
Oh, oops. I hadn't thought of that. Apologies. I'm still getting used to the intricacies of themed mafia.
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@ILikePie5
I think 🤾🏻♂️🍩 is supposed to represent Dunkin Donuts.
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