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@Vader
How did you mean it? Perhaps I misunderstood.
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@Ramshutu
Get out of my head.I have a particular strong suspicion that this is just an attempt to make it seem like RM was the beneficiary of campaigning, after their preferred candidate(s) didn’t make it and/or lost out for the same reason.
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@Vader
The mods wont side with RMThey sided with him during this Wylted situation, they may do it again
We did not choose sides, Supa. We just enforced the rules that were put up to ensure a fair election. Personally I'm extremely irritated that you had to lose all those votes, through no fault of your own, because one person deliberately snuck around violating election ethics. You were denied your fair shot here. And you deserved a fair shot.
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Even Trump-supporting Republicans are furious about this. I think there's a higher-than-normal chance for it to go through. But that still doesn't mean it's enough.
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@Dr.Franklin
Ignore him, let it to the proffesionals
I see your wisdom and I am ashamed.
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@Harikrish
No, you definitely shouldn't assume that. And when did I threaten banning?
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@ebuc
I feel like you're missing my point. They're not wrong because they're Islamic, ebuc. They're wrong because they're invading and destroying.
Trump uses people for a specific purpose and then throws them under the bus.
Well, yes. He does that. I can't keep track of all the people he's fired or turned on, it's rather dizzying. He tries to run the government like a business, where the CEO has near-absolute power and if he isn't getting what he wants he just fires people.
What Trump has done is to give the go ahead to kill allies who beat the hell out of ISIS.
That is also true.
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@Greyparrot
Aw. Now I can't hate you for being my sociopolitical opposite. And every American lives for hating their sociopolitical opposites. It is known.
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@Greyparrot
School vouchers.
... I quit.
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@Greyparrot
I think right now he's somewhere around "Kurds bad, Turkey meh."Well, at least he didn't say Kurds good Turkey bad.Or did he?
Last I heard he'd slapped Turkey on the wrist for all the Kurd killin', levying sanctions and deploying Mike Pence to go over there to talk to 'em, but the effort seems rather half-hearted and obligatory. I think he finds it hard to sympathize with the Kurds because they're the ones his personal critics and political enemies are defending.
Most people aren't going to understand that. They can only understand X good and X bad.
THEN TELL ME WHAT HOPE THERE IS FOR HUMANITY, GREY. TELL ME THAT.
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@blamonkey
Lol. Yeah, I don't know either. Perhaps they don't fully understand the realities of the job at the time they express the desire? Maybe they're thinking of it more as a promotion than as a spirit-draining chore. I definitely would never have asked for it like that. I was reluctant to even be a recusal mod, and I have it way, way easier than bish or Virt.
But I think it's just about accepting that there will always be impossible-to-please malcontents and it'll always be a mostly thankless job. But apparently not completely thankless, thanks to people like yourself.
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@ebuc
Sorry, to answer your response to me:
I don't think vilifying Turkish culture and adding religious intolerance to this on top of everything else is going to help anything. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Remember that Turkey is our ally, too. The situation here is that two of our friends are fighting. One friend is much bigger and, at present, more aggressive than the other.
While the larger friend is the aggressor at the moment, he is still an ally, and it's not a good idea to antagonize and alienate him completely. We have to be more far-sighted than that. That's diplomacy for you.
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@Greyparrot
Ugh, why didn't he just stick to his other reasons for the withdrawal? They were contendable. This was such a stupid thing to say. His attitude should be "I sympathize but this was necessary," not "who cares, you're people of low character anyway." Especially when those people have just done us a solid.Because the people stupid enough to not know a damn thing about Turkey and the Kurds need an explanation like that. Those people are easy to talk to.
So he fires off an unjustified insult on the people who have been on the frontlines fighting ISIS for us because... Americans are stupid? Too stupid to understand reasons like "in the long run our presence in the Middle East does more harm than good for both us and natives of the region"? So stupid the only thing that will penetrate our thick dumb skulls is "America good, Kurds bad"?
That is just sad.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
It's important to remember that their hearts are in the right place. They just want us all to be safer. They want to stop more people from losing their lives. They want to be able to send their kids to school without worrying about their safety. They want to be able to go to a concert or a WalMart without fear of being shot and killed.
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@Harikrish
Can't replace ethan. Rare to have such a friendly rapport with someone who is so ideologically opposite me.
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Users - RationalMadman, Ramshutu, SupaDudz
Debates - Firing Squad, Jury Nullification, Rap Battle
Threads - Rash's Goodbye thread, Hall of Fame Upcoming, Vending Machine
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@thett3
It would be really entertaining to just sit back and let you fuck things up enough to set everything on fire. I could put my feet up and drink a mimosa and watch Rome burn.
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@Vader
He said the same thing to me in his congratulations letter when I was first picked as recusal mod. Such a sweetie.
I didn't actually carry it out. I just made the decision. A while back they asked me to be an actual mod with mod powers but I didn't want it, so they made me a recusal mod instead. I make the call but the other two execute it.
The reason I handle any decision vs any other moderator is always that the other moderator(s) are recused from the case.
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@Vader
You have given more bans than Virt rn. How does it feel to be alpha
Lulz. Really? Seems hard to believe. I guess if bish is usually the one who carries out the bans they jointly decide on...
I can't take credit though. I just happened to be given one of the most active volcanoes to monitor. And I don't like being alpha or disciplining Wylted, it's like having to ban your favorite comedian/entertainer.
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@thett3
thett, thett. Don't worry. There will be many shitstorms on the horizon, buddy, I promise. We're all drama vampires to some degree, we'd never cut your feed entirely.
It's just that most of us can get by on a few bites, whereas you're like... one of those thousand-year-old purebloods who only wakes up twice a century and must devour whole human hearts from virgins to sustain himself.
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I'm going to translate what thett just said for everyone.
"Bitch you just made an attempt to cut the fuel lines to the drama I crave as a vampire craves sweet juicy red blood! I must cultivate an air of seriousness and sinisterness around this so it can escalate into an explosive orgasmic flamewar for me, or else how will I find the sustenance to sustain my survival?! You didn't think about me when you said that did you bitch?!!"
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Ah okay. My bad. The whole "you've obviously never worked there" thing made me think your stance was adversarial or something, I guess.
There is still the problem of this AR tunnel vision, though. Sure, a higher percentage of mass shootings are caused by AR's, but they don't even account for 5% of all gun deaths in America as a whole.
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@thett3
You'd need to ask bish and Virt. I thought he'd already cast his votes in the voting thread so there wouldn't be a problem. If he hasn't, I think it's a fair question.
It amuses me that even on a rinky dink site with a trivial election people see conspiracy theories about a sinister rinky dink deep state whose evil master plan is to stop two rinky dink votes.
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When I ban him he makes sure to punish me by supplying me with grade A entertainment. *wipes tear* And I never tell him how much I appreciate it. And he always makes sure to blame bish even though it was 100% my decision. He's so thoughtful.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Did you @ me by mistake? I don't understand the relationship between your post and my post.
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@thett3
Ah, just a few days. Three. Then he'll be back making me laugh again, that lovable monster.
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@TheRealNihilist
Nope, he'd already been served his ban notice by then. I know it's hard to tell because he was acting so zen and effervescent.
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@TheRealNihilist
Something else. Calling the mods names is not against the rules. He was banned for something he said to another member in one of the Hall of Fame threads, where we said personal attacks would be treated severely.
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Ugh, why didn't he just stick to his other reasons for the withdrawal? They were contendable. This was such a stupid thing to say. His attitude should be "I sympathize but this was necessary," not "who cares, you're people of low character anyway." Especially when those people have just done us a solid.
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@HistoryBuff
Well said.
I suspect some of this soreness may be spillover from recent events unrelated to Columbus.
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@Harikrish
ethan is his own man. It's his decision. I will not directly pressure him to return to DART.
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@Harikrish
If I say your name three times will it banish you like in Beetlejuice?
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Will someone please get this man a history book? He needs help, people. He doesn't know why the Civil War happened, he thinks it was the nation of Canada that burned down the Whitehouse in the War of 1812, and apparently it escapes his notice that the Kurds had no country or military in WWII, so this makes about as much sense as blaming Native Americans for not committing their Native American military armies to the Battle of Normandy.
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My first thought is that people who own AR-15's are likely to already own other guns, and good ones. Would they trade their AR in for a pistol and shotgun when they already have three pistols and two shotguns? It's the AR that is filling a niche in their collection.
But it's a very interesting idea. It certainly has more merit and feasibility than a direct buyback, which can never work in America like it did in Australia.
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"As somebody wrote in a very very powerful article today, they [the Kurds] didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy..." -- Trump
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
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@Greyparrot
Since the treaty does not involve America in any way I must assume the People's Republic of Greyparrot suffers from delusion and dissociative identity disorder.
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So what did he create the appendix for.
It would really put a lot of debate and puzzlement to rest.
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@crossed
How do we test my cookies being stolen. how do we prove billsand is billbatard
I stole your cookies. No test needed. Stop leaving them out like a fool for any cookie shark to abduct and murder in cold blood.
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@Greyparrot
Thank you for understanding. It's considerate of you.
I propose the People's Republic of Castin and the People's Republic of Greyparrot ratify an official treaty that our relationship be limited to pithy one-liners without any real substance or argument whatsoever.
Will you sign? Or do you need to talk it over with your people in parliament first?
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@Greyparrot
You edited your post to add that second line later, so I honestly thought you were joking and you agreed with me. I rolled with the joke.
I'm cautious about engaging you in a political conversation because you tend to just "orangemanbad" away every criticism of Trump, seemingly regardless of the content of the criticism. Just in my experience, anyway. It just makes discussion feel rather pointless.
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@Greyparrot
No, we need to wait until Turkey does us some recent big favor, first. But after that, absolutely, we commence Operation Backstab.
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The Kurds made a mistake. They trusted America.
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@Pinkfreud08
Yeah I can understand that. But to me it was fiction, and all fiction is fake.
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All right so my understanding of the specifics is this, anyone pls feel free to add or correct:
- A day or two before Trump made the tweet, scientists calculated there would be a 5% to 10% chance the hurricane would hit a tiny corner of Alabama.
- But by the time Trump made his tweet, that was outdated information. It was now certain Alabama would not be hit at all. So this was a small threat to a small part of Alabama that got updated to a non-threat.
- Then Trump makes his tweet saying Alabama "will be hit much harder than expected." This was inaccurate and out of date, which is a problem.
I could understand him saying Alabama would be hit; he probably remembered it mentioned in previous reports. But for the life of me I have no idea where he got "much harder than expected" in regard to Alabama. Those were the words that caused the real panic.
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@Greyparrot
You're one of those supporters who think if he's wrong about the weather the liberals win. Aren't you. Admit it. J'accuse, Grey! J'accuse!
Those goddamn liberal hurricanes, right. Dorian came straight for us dressed like a hipster and wearing a Hillary 2016 pin. Panic. PANIC.
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Am I the only one who read the book because I just enjoyed the storytelling and characters?
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@Lunatic
Is that one of those creatures from Dark Crystal.
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@Snoopy
They politicized their work as soon as they decided to misrepresent the truth to the American public in order to appease a political power.
The public depends on them giving important and reliable weather information. That is more important than petty politics or the president's ego.
Meanwhile his supporters are acting like him being wrong about the weather would mean the liberals win. I don't even. The weather is the fucking weather.
Do you mean dramatic consequences in terms of politics, or policy?
Both.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
The one at the bottom of the website said it was expired when I tried to use it just now. I am currently on my phone, not sure if that has anything to do with it.
It's doing that for everyone and needs to be fixed. I always just use this url to the main chat. Don't know if it will work for you.
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