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@ebuc
Woah! Cease fire!
Your posts would have hurt my feelings, if I had any. LOL!
C'mon, really. I noticed you have a mind to see things in numbers and shapes. Just curious. Why do you see things like this?
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@ebuc
Let's bury the hatchet Ebuc. I want to know a little about your way of thinking. You are obviously all about numbers and shapes. What makes you think like this?
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@ebuc
You take offence for your lack of reading comprehension skills.
Or could it be your lack of communication skills?
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@ebuc
LOL! You really should stick to geometric shapes and numbers. Bringing good points to a conversation is not your best quality.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Trump become popular by saying Obama wasn’t born in America
But why is that racist? Because Obama is considered a black man?
Trump announced his campaign by saying Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers
He did not say that. He was implying that not all illegal immigrants are asylum seekers and wanting better lives. Some are criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc. Can you prove that all that come through the southern border are here for good reasons?
Republicans believe you make America great by denying blacks the right to vote. Changes to voting laws in Texas have focused on making it harder for blacks to vote, such as in Houston.
How can a law about voting make it harder specifically on blacks? Give me an example.
Republicans like Trump tried to blame January 6 on Black Lives Matter activists
Source please.
Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election were focused on areas with black populations like, Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia and Phoenix.
I can see Atlanta and Detroit, but not so much Philly and especially Phoenix. Looks like you are grasping at straws on that one.
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@ebuc
Psychotic narracistic Trumpet is habitual liar and encourages uneccesary violent action.
I bolded your quote above. What violent action would be considered necessary?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Make America Great Again means make America White again.
This is an odd claim, but one I would suspect from you. Tell me, how does MAGA mean racist?
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@n8nrgim
if i say 'fuck it let's watch the world burn', it's only cause i'm partly MAGA myself.
Ummm . . . That is not the purpose of MAGA. The idea of MAGA is to literally "Make America Great Again" and a way to do that is to bring our government back into the hands of the people, where it belongs, to rid it of corruption and bring society back to freedoms from a tyrannical government. Greyparrot said it right, Trump exposed the corruption and now they plan on teaching him a lesson.
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Though they try their hardest, over the my siblings' and I's early years the parents separate and eventually divorce. My sense of self-worth ruptures and I believe myself to be a "bad-luck curse".
This quote, right here, is the whole key to fixing the gay community. With good parents, there would be almost no gay stuff going on.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
What do the words “before trial” mean to you? Are you stupid?
Damn it! I read your post a little too fast. Probably because most of what you say is irrelevant.
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@Greyparrot
@IwantRooseveltagain
Evidence is made public in criminal cases before, during and after trials.
I don't want to split hairs here, but this is right after the raid, not during or after trial. Greyparrot is right when he says it's "bad fruit". It creates a public bias before the trial even starts. It was all for political theater in this case.
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I hate toilets that you have to hold the handle down until it flushes.
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@ebuc
If Trump were anyone other than a former president, he would not have been given the luxury of a summons to appear in court. There would be a team of armed FBI agents outside his door at 6:30 in the morning, he would have been arrested and the government would be immediately moving to detain. So the idea that he’s being treated differently is true – but not from the way his supporters seem to be arguing.
If Trump was just a normal citizen, a senator, a vice-president, or what ever, the FBI wouldn't even care.
Also, if he was a democrat, the FBI would just claim that he broke the law but no "reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case".
But I'm sure what the FBI would do is when they storm the house to detain him, they would take pictures and then post it all over the internet about their super important investigation. Not like that has ever happened.
You're right. When has the FBI ever posted pictures of their investigations on the internet for just a plain John Doe before the investigation was complete? Had it not been Donald Trump, NOBODY would or has cared.
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@Double_R
This is like claiming that your school is terrible and the evidence of that is that your report card shows all F's.
LOL! Great analogy! In that case, my school was terrible. :)
Trump has been impeached and investigated over and over again because he's easily the most brazenly corrupt individual we've ever seen in US politics. This should have been obvious from the very beginning by his very public infatuation with his mentor Roy Cohn. If not his fake university, fake charity, and droves of unpaid contractors should have given people the hint. Yet here we are, despite all of the evidence against him, right wing cultists still blame everyone else for the crime of investigating him.
I will still claim that with whatever standard they are prosecuting Trump with, make it the same across the board. If Trump is truly guilty, then hit him with the book, BUT it seems that the liberals here still think that their political heroes are little angels. This is actually pretty funny. Both sides pointing out the folly of the other's leaders but won't hold a standard to anything. We just seem to say that our devil is a less evil devil.
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@zedvictor4
@FLRW
Touche! I will agree that church schools are also grooming children to what they believe. I also do not think every religion is healthy.
My only point here is that Christianity is on the decline, per FLRW, not because children are "getting smarter". It's because they are taught against it. Children don't believe anything for themselves until they become about 16, when they get their own ideas and start to become independent. So pop them in a classroom where the Bible is shunned and the idea of God is a joke and the alternative to creation is taught, it would make sense that children grow up to think that God doesn't exist.
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@Sir.Lancelot
This rule would just stop the derailing of healthy discussion into full-on extremism and allow for more meaningful conversations to take place.
Hmmm . . .Just getting through with fodder with Roosevelt, I see what you mean.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
LOL! You are in a chipper mood this evening! Did you have more kool-aide than usual? A run through the gauntlet, I see. Well, I'll appease your questions just for fun.
Well first there is your education you attain.
What does this have to do with success? Is it really success to say that you can parrot back some facts about a subject but never really get to use them AND to pay them an ungodly amount of money to do so? OR is it a success to actually learn the trade you started in as a young man, get on the job training and understand the trade and nothing else that is irrelevant to it, AND GET PAID while doing it? Now I make WAY more than a college grad AND I have NO COLLEGE DEBT! In my book, SUCCESS!!
You put so much emphasis on your education? Are you so insecure about it that you have to pound your weak chest about your degree in art?
What sacrifices and commitments have you made for others? Military service? A war? Volunteer to help those less fortunate?
Plenty, but to list everything would seem like bragging and I don't believe in "showing my peals to swine". I do know that you did serve in the military and I do thank you for that.
Then the money you are able to earn.
"Able to" and "have earned" are two different ideas. I am able to earn quite a pretty penny as does everyone in America, but what I have earned is more than what you think for this lowly high school grad.
Then the relationships in your life, wife, children, grandchildren, friends, brothers, sisters, etc…
Deep and meaningful, but of course you wouldn't believe what I say anyways. (except one brother who is an idiot).
Then, what have you done to leave the country and the world a better place? Anything? Doctor? Inventions? Art? Legacy?
Ooh! You are going to hate me for this, but I will leave the world a better place by teaching the next generation to not think like you and people like you. People who are so narrow minded and foolish college grads that like to brag about their posterity on an internet site because they have done all that they have been programmed to do.
Whew! Now that I have wasted my time with you. . . good day!
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Woah! A multi-post run. Tired now Rooskie? Why don't you have some more kool-aide?
Or it means Trump has broken a lot of rules and laws, including the constitution
Maybe, but again, let's keep the standard the same. Let's indite Hillary for her emails, Joe Biden for his business deals, etc. You know this happens. Don't deny it or will you just run to your dixie cup with your happy juice?
Did you hear that one on one of your right wing wack job talk radio shows?
So wise! I did hear it from there and that made so much sense that I decided to adopt it.
Every one of those clowns was voted in by the people. The people get the government they deserve.Lauren Boebert is a divorced high school dropout who got pregnant in high school. She’s a dummy and she has been elected twice in rural Colorado
I don't think there is anything we have ever agreed on, but this is an exception.
The message is if you break the law as a subversive, you will go to jail
No, the message is that if you push back against the establishment, then expect them to ruin your life. Don't think, just be sheeple.
It is because of morons like you and the Republican Party
Ha! I actually contribute to society, but it's the democratic base that really sucks up the money from the government. How does it feel to be part of a party that literally buys their votes?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Trump rapes women, sexually assaults them, and wants to have sex with his daughter. And you are worried about Biden who has been married to the same woman for 50 years? Ya, that makes sense.
I noticed you didn't try to defend Biden about his dementia or even his hair sniffing. Hmmm . . concerned about your hero not being on the level? Trump is no angel but at least he is not chasing little girls.
Loser
Fake news.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
And you are a white, male, heterosexual, yet somehow a total loser who has done nothing with his life. Huh
White - yep
Male - yep
Heterosexual - Hell yeah!
Total loser - Maybe, but that's debatable
Done nothing with his life - Maybe, but I'm still not done with it
But, what you think is a "winner" and a "life success" is so far from what really matters, I'm pretty sure that I will never be anything like that. I'd say that I am just as proud of my enemies as I am my friends.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Instead of allowing such dialogue to cross interfere in one channel. Let the white nationalists/binary people have their channel outlets to freely criticize anything they want, (nobody has to visit their category, engage them or read their posts if they don’t want to.), and then let the leftists/progressives have their channel to have civil discussion so they have a medium for acceptance. There’s no reason both sides cannot co-exist, regardless of the hatred between the two. That is if only, the mutual goal is to move DART forward.
I think this really defeats the purpose of this site. If we just agree with others that are like minded, then we don't learn or grow or . . . debate. I have learned a lot just the few months being here and posts from Roosevelt, and the such like are still great banter, even though it is not professional debate material. I think the forum for a lesser form of debate and then the official 1 on 1 debates is a good setup to do.
Can we really stop everything that we don't like? Don't we have a code of conduct to abide by?
I agree with slainte, that a person should be banned if there are egregious violations and it should be agreed upon by a certain council.
What is the reason that this site is "failing"?
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I will throw my hat into the ring and say that TWS nor Roosevelt should be banned. Both can be annoying and seemingly "mean" in their posts, but is that really grounds for a ban? Also, TWS is correct saying that a ban is only good for that one username. They can come back to really be a butt-head, theoretically, an infinite number of times.
I know we would all like to see civil debates and points made, but we are all corresponding with humans here with such differing points of view. I do not agree 100% with anybody here. So are we whining about feelings being hurt?
If this is not a debate site for thoughts being tossed back and forth, and even if it's heated, then it's not much of a debate site.
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@FLRW
I assume Christianity is dying because kids are getting groomed against it. Most kids are public schooled and the public school system is not Christian friendly, especially today.
Another reason is that human kind becomes more degenerate. Surprisingly, the Bible predicts this too:
2 Timothy 3:13 "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived."
In fact this whole chapter really calls out our day and time.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
He’s not mentally disabled, he’s just old.
Ah! The kool-aide man strikes again! Go ahead and drink up what they tell you Rooskie.
President Biden is a poor old bumbling fool. A puppet to the left agenda. He can't hardly talk even if the words are printed in front of him. The Media has been covering this and running interference for years on this. He would say the dumbest things years ago, but now you can't even make out what he is trying to say.
It's sad that all your side has for a champion is the old man, fall over for no reason, president, a cackling vice-president, a butt-loving TRANSportation secretary, and a cross dressing DOE assistant Sam Brinton. Heroes is your eyes!
Oh, and Biden sniffs little girl's hair. You did vote for what you thought represented you, didn't you?
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@Rieka
I'm going to let you in on a little secret with a few people on this site. They don't have souls and they feed off of your reaction. Such ones are Bro D. Also, Prez-Hilton goes around every once in a while to stir up things. So as long as you are having fun trying to break their heads, I would recommend making your statements and then letting the rest go. If their statements don't bother you, then go right ahead, but be warned, they have no morals or standards so a logical debate with them is like having a mud fight with a pig, they enjoy the banter and you just get all dirty.
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If Trump is truly guilty of all these crimes, then hang him. BUT I want all others to be judged by the same standard. The fact that Trump has been constantly bombarded with impeachments, trials, investigations, etc, really shows a bias to the outside contender. If you are not part of the club, then you are going to be torn up.
The government is corrupt and we all know but since some people don't like Trump and would rather have a drooling, bumbling, hair sniffing fool in office, and they gladly accept the double standard. If it weren't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any standard at all.
Really, we need to get rid of the whole clown show that is congress and start over, but that would mean we don't know who would be coming in next. I guess it's better to dance with the devil you know than the devil you don't know.
They made an example of the Jan 6'ers by crushing them with the hardest crime they could. They are making an example of Trump too. The message is "Don't fight against the machine."
America is in a steady decline and it's sad to watch it.
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@badger
I play guitar (not very well) and have found out that quantity time is much better than quality time with it. Some people have a natural knack for instruments, but not so much for me. So, it's better for me to sit and play with friends simple songs and notes and chords and work my way up from there. Muscle memory has to be developed first and also an ear for where which note is on the guitar.
From there, branch out to whatever different forms, but do not get discouraged at the progress of others. Keep at it! it's great fun to play with others and actually do a full song!
Oh! and get little tips from other guitarists on songs. This will improve your skills but also you can sound like a master by just little tweaks.
Good luck!!
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@Greyparrot
I think you need to slap Rooskie now. He is repeating himself like a skipping record.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Vaccines save lives by preventing disease.Most people who get vaccines have no serious problems. Vaccines, like any medicines, can cause side effects, but most are very rare and very mild. Some health problems that follow vaccinations are not caused by vaccines.In very rare cases, a vaccine can cause a serious problem, such as a severe allergic reaction.In these instances, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) may provide financial compensation to individuals who file a petition and are found to have been injured by a VICP-covered vaccine. Even in cases in which such a finding is not made, petitioners may receive compensation through a settlement.This is true of ALL vaccines. People have to be vaccinated by several vaccines to attend public school, work in certain jobs and serve in the military.
Bravo! This is smartest thing you have posted all day.
The only caveat here is that the COVID vaccine does not have the historical data or the years of research that the others were given. Therefore, I would not call it safe.
BTW, did you know it's not necessarily the crippled virus in the vaccine that is the killer? It is the serum cocktail that contains loads of toxic metals that we should not be exposed to.
My sis-in-law worked as a nurse and gave a vaccine to a little boy. The boy started crying and his arm swelled up and turned red where the shot was given. She got the doctor and told him what had happened and said that she will log it as a bad reaction to the vaccine. The doctor told her not to and to log it as something else. She couldn't, beyond any doubt, prove that it was the vaccine that made that reaction. Turned out, almost all bad reactions are never logged as such, at least where she was working.
Ooh! Also, did you know the VICP is funded by the American public who get vaccinated and not the vaccine makers? Look it up. It's a tax imposed on the vaccine makers.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I’m very surprised you didn’t die from COVID. So many people like you did die from the virus.
Unfortunately, for you, this deplorable made it out unscathed. A mild headache was all I got. And I didn't have to succumb to government experiments and pressure.
So Trump tried to poison us with this vaccine he pushed for.
Trump had no clue what was involved in this vaccine thing. He was stupid to let Fauci take things over. But he did not demand people take it. He made it available. Biden made it a mandate and even stated that "his patience is running out". Tell me who is demanding the poison?
Getting a little hard to answer my posts? Here, take this kool-aide. After a while, everything will be alright.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Trump was the one who pushed for the vaccine. He takes full credit for it. Are you calling Trump dishonest? Are you a RINO?
Trump help create it, but Biden started demanding it to all parts of society. If you want to poison yourself with the vaccine, that's up to you. But I should not be a demanded Guinea pig for this thing by the government or any corporation.
BTW, I lost a $100K project since they demanded that all the workers on site had to be vaccinated, so I know what it's like to take the brunt of the vaccine mandate. Tell me college grad, how much would I have made on that project?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Look, in America, nobody asks or cares what a high school graduate thinks unless they are looking for someone to fix their car or cut down a tree.
Hmmm. . . So what you are telling me is that you don't have enough intellect to know how a car works or how to safely cut down a tree? What did your college teach you? It seems all they did was show you how to raise a dixie cup to your lips.
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@dustryder
To what extent do you agree or disagree with this article when it comes to labelling causes of death?
Let me push through the Rooskie smokescreen and say that COVID was a real virus and it really killed people. I am saying that the numbers have been skewed to help push a narrative. A "vaccine demanding" narrative. A "shut down the economy" narrative.
So to answer your question about the article, I do not disagree with the article all that much. But, when you look at the stats from the CDC, COVID was not the vicious killer that the MSM made it out to be. For them to claim that the virus killed over 1M in America is not accurate. Some of those people were on their death bed and COVID just came first. Some had the flu and they called it a COVID death. Some people died in an accident or poisoning, and its called a COVID death. Also, we know that the Government paid hospitals more money to treat COVID patients on Medicare. So there is a monetary reason to state that a particular patient has died with COVID included.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
They would determine the person had COVID for the purposes of tracking the virus but the death would NOT be attributed to COVID.
That would be fine except it was not about tracking. It is attributed to a COVID death. So someone stating(Rooskie) that COVID killed over 1 Mil people is simply not true. That many died with the COVID virus in their body, not from COVID itself. It is pushing a narrative to say that over 1M people died from COVID, or maybe like I said, a hoax.
Ok, so you’re saying doctors lied at the direction of their bosses. You really think doctors would do that? These are educated, wealthy people with options, with the ability to hire lawyers and blow the whistle. And they all, thousands of doctors, chose to lie over and over again about what their patients died from. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of deaths that were improperly documented on official, legal documents.
They just followed protocol, fool. Of course the heads of the hospitals wouldn't say "Ok, now lie on the death cert or you're fired". You are so much like your President. Incoherent and brainless.
I talked to the CDC and they said a healthy dose of kool-aide is all we need. Drink up!
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@IwantRooseveltagain
For a college graduate, you really don't think that hard. Did you look a the site or did you just spout off something to help soothe your ego?
Doctors certify what a person died of. Not a hospital administrator and not Pfizer.
Of course, you goon! That same doctor is given orders from the hospital owners of what to put on the death certificate. Otherwise, they would be out of a job.
In Maricopa county, the doctors went back though the death certificates and looked at the causes of death and tried to apply the COVID death to something that "looked" COVID. Why would they do that? They obviously don't care that the stats are correct, seeing that even an accident is a COVID death. Hmmm. . . Maybe money? It does make the world go 'round, doesn't it?
If you died of Covid and you were obese and had diabetes, you died of COVID you moron.
Is your college degree in art, because you really don't know much.
So if you died of a broken neck or a heart attack and had COVID, why would they tally it up to COVID?
(Hey, waiter! My friend here needs more kool-aide!)
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@IwantRooseveltagain
When did doctors become scheming, money grubbers? They were once some of the most trusted citizens in the country. But once Trump became President, they somehow became the enemy
You are absolutely useless.
It's not doctors in general. Most doctors and nurses want to help people and that's why they are in that profession. BUT, the pharmaceutical companies and owners of hospitals are ALL ABOUT MONEY!!! Hello!? It's a business, remember? If you're not making money at a business, then it's just a hobby.
Do you need another glass of kool-aide?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
That’s a lie. You heard that on FOX News.
Your college degree is a lie!
Look on the CDC's own website!
Look at the statistics (AKA: facts). The site even says, that only 5% of death certificates have COVID as the actual death. Every other "COVID related" death had on average, 4 OTHER CONDITIONS related to death. Look at some of the stats that state, diabetes, or heart failure or obesity or even "intentional or unintentional injury or poisoning". Really? Someone fell off a ladder and broke his neck but, dies of COVID?
But, I shouldn't be at looking this and thinking that maybe this may be a hoax. (Sigh) I'll just blindly believe my leaders.
Drink it up, Rooskie! All the kool-aide! You should be getting a sugar rush with so much kool-aide in your system!
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You damn fool! Most died from co-morbidities that wasn't even COVID linked because the hospitals could get a pile more of money from a "COVID death". It was completely over stated how many died from COVID.
Drink more of the kool-aide!
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@FLRW
"As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron."
You forgot "hair sniffing" and "pedophile" in the comment above.
Joe Biden does manifest the inner soul of the people today. Brainless.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Oh no! More brainless garbled typing from the Rooskie.
Has it occurred to you that maybe the left and the media is pushing so hard on Donald Trump is because he is upsetting the apple cart? So many hoaxes in so little time. Hmmm. . . Maybe because they are. We were just nailed with the biggest hoax of our lifetimes. COVID. The virus was real, but the vaccines were bunk, the masks were bunk, the social distancing was bunk, so on. Read the reports from congress into these hoaxes such as the Durham report. They (the charges) were made up! Look at the 36 point indictment to Trump a few weeks ago. No real charges, just made up rabble on conspiracy to commit and cover up a crime that is not even named!! Then just last night, another indictment which a portion is the classified documents thing, which EVERY president living now has done, including one recent vice president turned president, and no charges brought to them.
Now you are surprised that all these events are being chalked up to "hoaxes"?
Get a grip! You are the one who will freely let your children be brainwashed and socially engineered by the government in the public schools. You let them turn your children into little puppets of the state. You really are useless around here. I take that back, you only use around here is to help show the rest of Ameriians how dumb a friend of the state can be.
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My two cents:
It is a man's world due to the aggressiveness and strength of a man. The woman is more a nurturer and will care better for family than a man will. The two working together for a common goal will always be the best pair, but one cannot take on the role of the other, and if they do, it is rare that they will succeed in the roles. Women are not dumber or inferior for this reason, it's just that their roles are not as "glorious" as a man's role. Women see the public recognition that a man gets for work or inventions or public service and she wants to be recognized too.
Really, if men could just be good men, most women would be happy with being a stay at home mom and housewife.
BTW, I think Andrew Tate is a chump.
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@IlDiavolo
New age is honest, it doesn't need to threaten the person with a terrible punishment of eternal fire. Even a shrink can tell that new age is better than the sadistic ways of Christianity.
Of course, one will claim superiority over the other, but like you said, similar output.
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@Greyparrot
No! MSNBC is love! MSNBC is LIFE!
I think you need a good E-Slap to have you snap out of it. (WHAP!)
Get a grip Greyparrot! They don't love you! They only want your body and mouth to destroy America and talk dirty lies while doing so! After that, into the furnace you go Listen!
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@IlDiavolo
You hit the nail on the head! The new-age and Christian world today are very similar. Love everybody, just have good feelings, don't make waves, etc. It is very "Hippie". (Not sure if they had that where you are from.) The truth is that true Christianity is different than most ways of life.
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@Greyparrot
But unlike riots that cause destruction, those $30B was just redirected to something else and increased those field's monetary status.
But, don't think too hard. Eat up the narrative, sheeple!
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@Best.Korea
@TWS1405_2
In TWS defense, there is a debate going on right now on this site in about the Muslim Prophet Mohammed and it being normal to marry a six year old and then consummate the marriage when she is nine years old.
I bring this up because if a huge population of the world (1.8 Billion) will think this is not only okay but encouraged since their religious leader got away with it, then how many more people will have to be convinced before the critical mass of opinion tips the sway?
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@IlDiavolo
I would die to see that, . . .
Hmmm. . . Maybe it would take a meeting with your Maker for you to know the truth. (joke!)
. . .specially when these aliens show their skills to cure and make miracles, they're going to be the new God for the ignorant masses.
It is an interesting concept to think that maybe religions around the world have been just worshipping some short big-eyed grey alien all along, named Bob, who really was just the janitor of this solar system who decided to "spread his seed" all other the planet when no one was looking. Again, fun to think about.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Alien abduction stories = homosexual government rapists who apparently can't find volunteers for their experiments and would rather induce a specific hallucination than simply sedate their victimSo many interesting hypotheses...
LOL! Just as plausible as the rest.
The intent from the abductors is unknown but for sure it's all human driven. It has been done before during WW2 in concentration camps, the experiments that is. . . Probably the rape to.
I don't think SETI is that expensive... It's not like they build any radio telescopes just for it.
I suppose not compared to other programs, but 100 million is real money for useless causes. Oh well, maybe the builders of the radar dishes make some money from it.
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@IlDiavolo
@Tradesecret
Here are my two cents.
There is no such thing as intelligent life (aliens) outside Earth. There is no proof. Only hear-say and odd happenings.
Now, there has obviously been something happening. Abductions, devices planted, UFO sightings, etc, but this does not mean that these happenings have been done by an extra-terrestrial race. Which one of these happenings could NOT be done by our own human race? We abduct, we plant devices and we create new war machines all the time.
Our advances on science have been extraordinary and the idea of anti-gravity has been researched since the 1960's. We have heard the saying that our flip phones today have more technology in it than the moon lander from 1969. How hard would it be to think that the "flying saucer" is not just another piece of technology from the Pentagon or Kremlin or China or whatever?
The idea of abductions can be easily explained when you do some research into the field of mind control. Our brains work with electrical impulses through neurons. How hard would it be for a government agency to send the correct electrical current to the portion of the brain that controls a person's perception to make them think they are being abducted? They have experiments done to them and the probing is just the disgusting way they enjoy ending their mission. The devices planted have been known to track and hear what the person is saying and in some cases, know their thoughts.
As for visitations, it wouldn't be hard to dress up the part OR it is possible people do have visitations from demons or angels.
So all in all, aliens are a government sham. They are feeding junk to the public and raking in billions of dollars for "research" like the SETI program, which has stated that they still have not found anything regarding alien life.
Ildiavolo, to answer your question, would it affect Christianity if aliens were found to be true? Doubt it. The religion is not based on that there is not alien life but rather that there is a God who died for us. And if aliens do exist, God created them too (animals) and gave us (humans) dominion over them also. The idea of alien life is very fun to think about and super fun to hear stories of abductions and visitations and UFO sightings, but in the whole scheme of things, it doesn't erase God out of the picture.
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Well, when Einstein, Hawking and Elon Musk found out that there was no God, they didn't immediately start committing crimes, killing people they didn't like, stealing, and basically just being a menace to society. Also Bill Gates Gates has said he's "pretty much an atheist" and that belief in a god "makes zero sense."
I'm pretty sure Bill Gates, the believer in eugenics, is the guy you want to uphold as an atheist being moral about human life.
Remember that if you do believe in God, you are more likely to fly an airplane into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.Allahu Akbar!
Keep in mind, that just because someone claims to love God doesn't mean they actually love God. We would know that a father would love his children, but if a man abused and molested his children, he really wouldn't be father, would he? Same with the crazies that claim to do things in the "name of God".
Maybe it's, if you believe in God, you immediately start committing crimes, stealing, and basically just being a menace to society.You know, like Televangelist Jim Bakker. Bakker was indicted by a federal grand jury on 24 charges of mail fraud, wire fraud, and conspiring to defraud the public in 1988 following a 15-month investigation.
Cherry picking a looney doesn't have any baring on the conversation.
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