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@Mopac
But God created everything didn't he ?
So God himself wasn't living in this ultimate reality ?
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@Mopac
Ok Ok.
When did ultimate reality start ?
Approximately?
( A ) 0 to 10,000
( B ) 10,000 to 50,000
( C ) 50,000 to 100,000
( E ) ages ago.
Don't worry mopac you don't have to answer it.
I'm thinking this Ultimate reality would have you picking ( A )
And you picking ( A ) aint very " ultimate " at all.
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@Mopac
we may as well keep pretending words are meaningless.
Let's pretend your Christian God was the first to be called God.
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@Mopac
Ultimate reality has only been around what?
7000 years max.
What was reality 10,000 years ago.
How long has this ultimate reality been going on ?
Before this Christian God ultimate reality was it like.
Norse god ultimate reality.
Roman god ultimate reality.
Greek god ultimate reality.
?
Are They old ultimate realities ?
If ultimate reality has anything to do with God, why would it start with christian God. Why not one of the thousands before it ?
Anddddddddddddd .
One more question Mo.
Is your orthodox Christian god. The Jewish god. ?
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I like to picture god trying to prove his god to sec mur.
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@Mopac
Copy that ten four.
Taking note. A credit if you will +1.
For the charitable work your " organizations " do.
A quick score update.
Religion: FOR 5
Religion: AGAINST 4890578336793190742114589754697838624315395059353153656372990335778432198385490865246790065421567.7
Good game.
Good game.
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@disgusted
It's none of your business what other people think about you.
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Ya Read one scripture , you decipher it, you feel happy with what you made from it.
You then read 5 scriptures, you decipher them, you now know 3 out of them 5 you translated good, i mean reallllll good.
You're now 20 scriptures in. You suddenly realize that your scripture translations are SPOT ON.
Now you've translated 30 scriptures , there is now no doubt whatsoever that you ard in tbe top 100 of Scripture translators that has evvvvvver lived.
Your good.
And five of the thirty scriptures you just deciphered you are close to certain you do then better then any other being that has ever lived or will ever live.
You've a certain quirky way that translates the scriptures so so good.
Coming to the end of reading the bible it is blatantly obvious that God had this book written and past on over time to end up with you.
You being the reason why God " MADE " the bible.
you can believe in a god until the cows come home.
But without joining a group / picking the correct true holy book.
Without a holy book having a belief in god is nothing more then having a belief in God.
So knowing that making a religious group is a " STRICT FOR PROFIT " business.
The answer to your question is , well i think is.
The OT was made to get a few things the creator's of the OT want. Commandment #1 is the gist of why the bible OT was written.
And from writing it certain people gained.
People will ALWAYS take advantage of people.
Tricking Ten men to work in ya farm for the love and glory of God ( amen ) is ummmmmmmm, well its handy.
The OT was written for the purpose of gaining stuff.
Running numbers , ponzi schemes came later on.
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And in a vacuum?
What about, doesn't matter?
And the answer you've been waiting for
The splelling is clearly different, inanimate and animated.
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I'm a dumb atheist.
No no , but i once heard of one.But
But
There is john the atheist , Rebecca , Derek, Lequisha, and Kamal the atheist.
Rebecca likes horses and rap music.
Derek is all about motorbikes and chicks.
Johns a family man 3 kids.
Kamal , i don't know much about kamal
The Atheists don't do weekly meet ups at the clubhouse. The atheists don't even group sing.
As a qhrase i hate using , It is what it is.
And and , what the hell does another person's opinion have to do with you being this or that.
The theists would say now do what ya heart says.
Anyway, a big welcome to TEAM AGNOSTIC nice to have you aboard.
Now i no you like a litte play with words , we here at team agnostics have to deal with.
God either exists orrrrrr he doesn't. Its one or the other. NOT BOTH.
And you are Agnostics ?
Any luck on your heart telling you what to do yet?
Do what ya wanna do be what ya wanna be yeah.
I mean, I'm a attack helicopter.
And Remember this, if you decide to become a theist you will have to pick a group to join as you need one of them holy books to hook ya god you believe in up to.
Maybe non religious group god can better explain this to you. Lets ask him.
Hey non religious group ?
Non religious group god are you there?
No?
No he ain't around but I'm sure non religious goup god would say .
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@EtrnlVw
First things first.
Hi my mate. Love you eternal.
Hey as a kid etrnl i attended my grandfathers funeral and the head church dude with the funny gown said to me that what i see infront of me is not my grandfather, it was like a shell. A vessel if you will.
And the whatever was him part " Soul " is now resting in the heaven place.
Ive I've never cried at a funeral since.
I loveeeeee the idea of a place like you describe as a heaven. And as a Atheist i believe in a heaven "thing" joint , place.
But etrnl
Etrnl?
Janes asking a question here.
So lets work through this one together. Ok?
Ok? Lets do this.
The question
DID GOD .
Ok Now let's stop here for a second.
" DID GOD " jane asks.
DID GOD?
I reckon we've done enough work here now to give jane a sufficient answer / opinion on her post.
Did God?
I dunno.
I do not no if God did what he did to limit our awareness.
Jane
Jane? 'Shrugs shoulders'
The answer to ya post is ( Dunno )
It's just, dunno..
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@janesix
He said the S word. Souls.
I was trying real real hard jane to think about thinking about what my brain might think about thinking.
Then bammmmmmmmmmmmm.
Etrnl brings up baby souls turning into ummmmmm older better souls.
My brain then explodes. And it makes a funny noise on its way out. fffffffffff.
I'm currently waiting for what my heart has to say about this whole but it's not really saying much today.
i think this question is best put to God.
GOD?
Nope no answer from god either today.
As for this experience of not knowing everything thing you speak of
Well ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I don't know about this.
My head knows nothing about it either. And my heart still isn't communicating at all with me today.
Jane . Hey jane ... Look im just going to pass.
Sorry i couldn't offer any oppinion or advice on this.
PASS.
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This Abraham bloke is without a doubt brilliant dude.
A real thinker of sorts.
Ruthless, butttttttt. Take em for a ride.
He wants to get a little GROUP going. Gain a gathering.
To name a few others that gets a group started.
Jesus.
Ye old sea dog L Ron hub.
Joseph smith
That David ker esh what ever his name. maggot.
THEY ALL GOT A GROUP GOING.
And it's alllllll about GETTING A GROUP GOING.
Getting a religious group going is like 189 and a half Ponzi schemes.
It's ummmmmm brilliant.
And it appears to me that Abraham plays a main part in the new and the now HOT system, GREATTTT FORMULA offff.
A God.
A Human God.
A Book.
A Clubhouse. ( a building shaped like no other ) ( a odd shaped roof )
Group building block materials.
Three cheers for the main man Abraham.
Hip
Hip
Hip
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So You're in a religious group because you believe in god?
I can do the having a belief in a God type thingy part, watch............
See? It's easy. I'll do it again ready? .starting now.
Believing in a God.
Still believing.
Anddddddddddd stop.
See? This part I've got down pat.
It's just ummmmm.
Well.
The joining a group because i believe in a God part is to me.
Difficult.
Ha. Diffi/cult. Is that a group?
A answer or two to some questions i have may enlighten me some.
What come first for you?, was it.
( A ) Beliving in a God.
Orrrrrrrrr
( B ) joining or finding yourself in a religious group.
How did you pick your religion?
Beliving in a God seems somewhat feasible.
But Joining a group because of it. WTF?
Let's say a 28 year old man from (____________) starts and now believes a God exists.
What group should he join?
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I'm the most moral being on this site.
I've joined 4 religious groups. And follow three books.
Apart from putting gods before others, i am mega moral.
Andddddddddd
If you Denounced your religion today. Would you wake up tomorrow with no morals
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From the spelling of the word God to the different levels of reality.
Things we do to get from simply believing in God to actually knowing the bloke.
From joining a religion through lying to yourself. To GOD.... can i get a AMEN.
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@janesix
Well, one thing is for certain
It's An article. √
with more than two pictures. √
so we know its legit.
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and or John maybe can better explain it?
Keeping in mind Bats are birds.
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So if there is 30 donkeys in a barn, how many years are in the color forty blink
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@Stephen
I once beat a cat with a stick.
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I'd say god did write the bible. Well after you've translated 10 or so scriptures , and you know FULL WELL you translated 3 of them 10 scriptures better then any other man ever has before.
You start to know god made this book for you.
There isn't one theist on this site that is not currently in the top 100 of Scripture deciphering of like ALLLLL TIME.
SOoooloooo gods do write bibles specifically for Brian. Timothy , Jessica ,
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr SCRIPTURE...... Ya wouldn't ave ya God speak anything but.
I now ask for 8 seconds to think anout the mind of the bloke whom at that metting that night said.
Hey what do you reckon we get Gods to speak " scripture"..
Think of his mind, go.
1
And a 2
And 3 .
And a 4 and a 5
And 6
7
And there.
Brilliant hey.
The bible
But my real answer to why god didnt write the bible is .
Because there wouldn't be a bible if gods wrote them because god's aint gods aint gods.
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Ok Why didn't God write the bible.
It seems the reason why gods didnt write the bible is because.
Try make a checkerboard pattern without thinking about it.
Look over here , :::::::,:,:,:,:,:,:,:,:,:,:,:,:look .
You cant prove a negative , hyena whales .
The chicken did.
And ill fininsh of with, you cant prove evolution you fool.
This is just Some of the reasons why gods cant can't write books.
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@Mopac
Nice post.man.
I feel like im melting.
Great response pacmo.
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@Mopac
Every generation has to learn things over again, scripture speeds things up.
You're grateful. ?
So in a generation or two time do you think they are going to be grateful for a Google search?
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@Mopac
How did you decide what holy book was the true one big fella ?
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If God didn't make the book im sorry, change title too
Imagine if gods didn't get the guys to do the books
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Hi how are you,? . hey ummmmm , your God did the Book thing right ?
yeah nice. Nice.
' kicks dirt '
Good Game.
Good Game.
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I know my spirit animal .
I've just never know my religion. So if a handful or so of you theists get together and maybe start a services of sorts.
Oh i should of asked first. Can you pick other peoples religion?
We could do it for like 25c a turn.
It's just a thought.
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No, i don't want to hear about it.
Aaaaaa.
Stop. Just
Stop it.
THE COMMENT STANDS.....
Each and every one of them, time and time again , over and over.
It's nail on the head stuff mate .
It just.
It's beautiful, true beauty,
And the way They make it look so so easy , I've seen one them decide its own religious group to join before It was like, like he plucked it out of thin air. I've goosebumps thinking about it.
Anyway. This isn't about me
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO. i give to you a truly remarkable bunch.
Why they've Gods and all.
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN,
OR PEOPLE IF YOU WLL.
For their RELIGOUS GROUP PICKING SKILLS.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::( THE T.H.E.I.S.T.SSSSSS ):::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
' Crowd goes wild '
Good game.
Good game.
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@Goldtop
I didnt mean to post that to you Goldie. Sorry.
You playing well may i add
all this pressure you have been put under with the supream ultimat reality argument.
Your playing a good game man.
( The " SUP " " ULT " REL " Argument )
The last time i seen a GREAT argument for proving god exisrt was the.
( You can't make a pattern without thinking about it Argument )
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@Goldtop
Did someone say big foot ?
Anddddď while we are on the subject of God . I put to the board .
DOUBLE Supream ultimate reality.
Thats the ultimate reality times two, and if there is 30 donkeys in a barn, how many weeks are in a hour?
Anddddddd , it appears that Jesus died for Hot cross buns.
So the fact that we have hot cross buns proves god exists.
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@Tradesecret
Trade hi pal .
Its not really a matter of me thinking im right or not its.
It is me being a little antaganistic. I like to ummm , kind of like make fun of believers like.
I'm rarther senseless like that.
But i fell the force is strong with you Trade.
Im going to take your posts in, not in a guidance to god type way but arrrrrr you know.
I cant spell very good, bare with that. ask me.
Now back to the post.
Trade , it aint about me gunning for glory and going for the win here.
And for this post I'll go with you and agree that Your religion is correct true religion , andvwhat do you know, you are in the correct religious group.
( the crowd goes wild ) You're a great reigious group picker man, CONGRATULATIONS.
Hey trade? It's going to get deep now. The silly fun games are over.
Its this.
Please answer truthfully. Goodluck.
Your question is.
Can you ( thats you ) .
Can you like me see a group of around 2 billion people , close to 2000,000,000. ( is that 2 bill ? )
Fuk , start again. Im just going to ask.
Can you like me see a group of close to 2 billion people caught in a somewhat kind of lie.
Following a religion that is not truly inspired by a actual factual God.
If you can't. Maybe together we can both agree that , we " Believe scientology to be a fake religious group. Trade ?
Scientology, what a million people, we can see a group of one million people who to you and i seem FULLY FUKIN CERTAIN scientology is fake.
That's one million people traped right there BAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Now i say traped which is a little unfair. Sometimes and maybe most, the fact that you and i know a religion could be false or could be true. One or the other. When i say true religion, like your group. The one true religious, Can i get a AMEN?
Oh yeahhhhh.
GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT THESE PEOPLE, IN GENERAL, You and i SEE the absolutely POINTLESS game of charades they play, a massacred if you will. There false group has them worshipping their god with the good old
Touch your albow 3 times.
5 head pats, 5 anti clockwise LARGE* belly rubs.
Maybe some $$Change$$
Trade?
Hey trade, these false / fake / untrue groups , AKA All and every other group apart from yours ,i mean ours
Yes Amen , what ever. Amen amen
The ones allllll around us,
Me personally, and like deep i fell sorry for them,
They've been tricked into never knowing your , i mean our really real the one and only truly true, aaaàaaaa like, you know ? Like real GOD.
Lets call him supreme ultimate reality God. AKA the true GOD full stop. Hehe.
Thoughts on the plentiful caught in fake religious group's.?
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Im humbled by your humbling attitude.
Deep breaths
In through the nose out through the mouth.
I've been humbled as going on two hours now, and i mean real real humble like.
I'm thinking what , give it a hour or two at this level of humbleness I'm currently putting out and who knows hey?
I could be getting me a visit from a certain , " you know who " fingers crossed.
Maybe Ethang5 is right.
Oh and i hope each and every one of you guys have a fantastic day.
Lots of love Deb mmmmmmmmmmm
Good day
Good day
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@sadolite
If you lose a finger for getting caught stealing
What's The punishment for being found guilty of rape
But losing a finger for getting caught stealing i think 5 maybe 10 years and it would start getting exploited.
For example sadolite. I'd give one finger to take away a criminal conviction.
You would hey ?
Having a criminal record should deter more from stealing then losing a finger.
Yes ?
No ?
Maybe they need to put ads on tv naming the things you can't do because of having a criminal record. A criminal conviction.
Stealing something means you get it for free.
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@Mopac
Belonging to a group has nothing to do with believing in God.
I get what you are saying and you'd win a argument about this. ( in the essence )
But. Its bloody horrible. Say it again and listen,
Ready?
BELONGING TO A GROUP HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BELIEVING IN GOD.
It doesn't sound good does it ?
To me it sounds like ! "The milk is sour "
And if the milk is sour, I ain't the kind of pussy to drink it.
So mopac is your post a legitimate Muslim post?
Like this " ultimate super duper supreme reality you are talking about, aluding too is like believing in what the Torah says and teaches ?
God the ultimate reality right ?
Instead of saying.
Belonging to a group has nothing to do with believing in God
What about
Believing in God has nothing to do with being or joining a religious group?
If your statement is true. Then this next statement is true right.?
100% of the theists on this site correctly picked / joined / the right religious group. ( correct, right . religious group means the one that is 100% correct.)
The right / correct religious group is According to what God deems as correct.
Right?
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If you deny God you are a fool. Says you
I can belive in God if you want.
But what religious group do i join for beliving in a God thingy ?
Thats all it is.
I mean you theists make it seem like common sense, if you believe in God , join a group.
Joining a religious group is like saying, you know God wrote / inspired this holy book.
I ask How can you know this ?
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I'm not denying "that God" nor the other one , i am simply denying that one and them other ones , I'm not sure about that one , and them gods I'm not denying.
Got that ?
Anddddddddd
what makes you a great religious group picker?
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@Mopac
No mopec. Its not about " reality " or ultimate reality.
Reality fatality shmality.
Back on topic. It's allllllllll about God.
Me not believing and you believing. Thats all mate.
It looks bloody painful you having to use this ultimate reality clause thingy which ive not a clue about nor would I argue my stance.
Its ALL about God.
( ill talk you through this post of yours )
Your post stood out to me the title nice.
Then ya click on it , and jt goes.
the supreme and ultimate reality.and the meaning of it. Which to ME ummmmmmm i dont know , whatever.
Then i realize this "ultimate super supreme half meat-lover with olives and extra cheese thing you are going on about is like , well bringing up evolution orrrrrrr i don't know.
Its a little dishonest of you.
Arrrrrrr I haven't the words to say what im wanting to.
oh and Pack a mo. Ive been on this site for a month, your early posts i seen were kind of beautiful and i was flat out finding a line to question them.
And now this.
Gods real ultimate reality atheists believe in evolution purple sneakers. ALL IN ONE STATEMENT.
I call this the thing " Gods real because you can't make a pattern line of attack."
So Let's get back to God hey.
Me Atheist, me not believe in God.
You theist you believe in god.
Let's sort this out, thennnnn we talk about this ultimate supreme reality thing you are going on about.
It appears to me that. Goldie, skept and sec mer done broken you in one month.
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@Mopac
If you signed a 100,000 years to find god contract. I can be a Atheist. Legitimately.
That's all.
Oh And i just made up a god 5 mins ago.
Beliving in a God thing is one thing but you are also beliving in a religious group.
Sooooooooo if asking for proof of God is to difficult and a little , you know silly.
Prove the religious group you are in and all the claims made from this group you're in is ummmmmm well true.
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@Mopac
And this is all because you the theists has unlimited time to prove God exists.
On that note, We here at the Atheist headquarters would like to give you, all and every believer a TIME EXTENTION.
Take ummmmm, lets say 5000* years from today.
No take 10,000* more years to prove God exists, the last thing we atheists want is for you guys to miss something,
Hang on.
Whats this,
Ok, wow.
The Atheists said. TAKE 100,000* MORE YEARS.
Yes you heard correctly ( one hundred thousand years* ) From today.
And your time startsssssssssss now.
Good game.
Good game.
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