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Are we allowed to create a DDO gambling ring where people can bet who the next mod will be? 

Im asking for..... me

It is a shame, but also very amusing to point out, that my attempt to stop the flamewars actually elicited multiple flamewars. Oops.      

I don't mean the quoteception DDO had, lol. That was horrible. 

I meant when I click on a quote button from post 1 itll quote post 1 then I can write whatever I want. When I click on a quote button from post 2, itll make another quote bracket not connected to the 1st one.

Or it just incentivizes mods to over-moderate, which is exactly the kind of thing that will drive users away. You have three well-respected users telling you that multiple mods is not a good idea; we understand that from experience.

Better quote system

A quote button for each post where once clicked it'll automatically copy paste the post in the quote format.

Its pretty tiring copy pasting multiple posts and the quote thing sometimes takes a while to work.

Could there be a clickable dropdown list in the Receivers input field from which we can select usernames we've used before?

Don't know if it's been suggested, but there should be a report button for users, posts, threads, and debates.

Why? Levels of mod seem to add unneeded oversight, and could actually be more bureaucratic than necessary. I think only two mods are necessary, tbh. If more than two are necessary, the chief mod should be empowered to appoint more later.

It'd be nice to be able to set parameters for who are opponent can be (e.g. they must have an ELO of at least 1,000). It would also be nice if we could set ELO minimums for judges, too.

Can we have rich text in the description section?

I'd also love being able to edit challenges that I've created before those challenges have been accepted.

We should be able to have a signature block, like on DDO.

Well, good luck. It's a road that must be traveled but i'm sure you'll get to your destination. The more people use this site should also help from what i remember, so i'll make sure i'm posting =) 

You know, this is exactly why in general i will likely stick around. You are really involved which is a good thing. My only thing will be how lenient you'll be in regards to moderation. I personally like the freedom to be offensive when it's called for, so i hope it won't be like Debate-island. That is why i left that one bc even a little bit of getting offensive was met with warning. Debate gets under your skin sometimes and to be able to lash out i feel is warranted. Of course nothing like death threat or direct threats of violence should be allowed, but other than that... that is one thing i really like about DDO, you're free to be a D if you want to. Other than that, i am really liking this site. Not only bc of your involvement, but also to your efforts in making it good. In truth, i am not thinking of leaving here, although i will use DDO when it is back up... i like this site too. Add a thumbs up thumbs down feature on these comments i will likely never leave. I thought the little options you can do on debate Island was really cool... the only thing that almost kept me there was the options to say "persuaded, fallacy, agree, disagree, etc." That was really cool. If you can get that here, i personally would give it two thumbs up.

Yep i'm aware. It takes some time and other sites like DDO are pretty grounded into the coding. There are some things you can do to speed up the process. Its been a little time since i have dealt with Google so the algorithms have probably changed.  One trick would be to put the word "debate" in-between your site's coding wherever you can. Of course, the more users you get here and more posts there are... that will also rank you higher, but that takes time. The trick i shared is a way to get around the waiting a little. But... i image you would have to manipulate the code with a couple thousand keywords since other sites are years old. It most def. is time consuming. 

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Maybe do it in the misc section, the main section already has a lot of stickied threads that could make an official discord just get lost among the noise.

I think a relatively simple step would be to disallow startig theads until a certain number of posts or a probabtionary period is over.

Is SEO useful?  In my experience 90% of posts and debate on sites like this involve a less than a dozen people.  In reality such sites have small dedicate cliques with only a slow turn over of active membership.

I'm not sure that the format would even work if there were, say, a hundred or even 50 active posters.  

We are a clique a bit like a family - we may not all like each other, but we look forward to crossing swords with our favourite enemies!   Having lots of strangers around isn't part of the deal, especially if they turn out to be 'one hit wonders' who don't invest in making DA (and DDO)was what it is, whatever that is!

I'm not advocating 'cliqueyness'; I am suggesting a degree of cliqueyness is inevitable and - I think - probably something we secretly like.

.. Well the place isn't even finished yet, guys. Don't you think decisive conclusions are at least a little premature? 🤔 The site's only been open a few weeks and is still in beta. Mike hasn't even implemented the moderator system yet. So basically none of us have seen what a fully moderated DART looks like. I think we should try to be patient. He's been trying to get the site ready and play babysitter in the meantime, and surprise, job juggling hasn't produced great results. We haven't exactly been making things easy for him.

I don't know what the finished product of DART will look like, but I do know what the finished product of DDO looks like, and I feel no temptation to take it back as my primary. Members have no voice on DDO to reach the Powers That Be. Juggle is cold and distant and obviously not invested in its own site or community. Here we have an admin who's active and listening. And the biggest factor of all for me? On DDO I know there will be zero hope of moderation or order. Here there is definite hope of moderation. It's on the schedule, in fact. 

I don't think you can speed this site up without some good marketing. By marketing i mean placement on searches. When anyone searches a debate site, or even debate... debate.org is usually the first site to pop up. That is what makes it super busy and always getting new people. I mean, i'm a marketing major and i can figure out how to do it for this site, but i do charge quite a bit to do so. Plus, i don't know if he would give me control of his entire site. But that is what is needed. And, since this is a new site... it takes a lot more marketing power to keep it high up on searches. DDO barely even needs a marketing person at this point. They are so OG that other factors keep them on top. So, the SEO work this site would need is pretty crazy and time consuming, and expensive. Best would be to find a marketing kid that just graduated willing to do it for this site for cheap... or learn it on Youtube. I haven't checked... but everything is on youtube.

Forum leaderboard(most posts, most interactions?)

Something like DDO for bios, ex: favorite sports teams, favorite book, favorite ice cream flavor)

Friends. Adding and removing friends

Tournament Sub-Section

Interaction Point System. 

Okay, so it's an option which an Instigator can choose to have if they want.

Essentially, assume there's four debate rounds, with Pro going first. Then, for the first three rounds, say with a character limit of 10,000 characters, the round structure would be:

Pro's Round 1 --> Con's Round 1 --> Pro's Round 2 --> Con's Round 2 --> Pro's Round 3 --> Con's Round 3

For Round 4 alone, the character limit would be halved to 5,000 characters, and Con's Round 4 would happen before Pro's Round 4. And the Round 4s ("R4s") would be exclusively for crystallization, with no rebuttal, counter-rebuttal, or arguments of any kind. This Round 4 would be called a "reply round" or a "reply speech."

I think the deletion of "sources," "conduct," and "spelling/grammar" points would be pretty important for me. 

I'd hate to debate on a site with exclusively a 7-point system; Instigators should have the option to only have a "better arguments" point.