ILikePie5

he said he made up this role to fit the game

same thing with the heros of olympus thing. i was lynched cuz of my role and behavior, and was town

am town

This feels a bit like a flip flop from post 147/149 where you were thinking pie was going too hard on joebob and 159 where you had referred to him as over aggressive (several posts said this) and now you are essentially echoing all of pies talking points in regards to joebob. Can you explain what made you change your opinion on this issue between last night and tonight so quickly?

Work was crazy this week. But for the next few days I’m just catsitting for my sister. So my activity level should shoot up to normal levels (I just won’t spam to try to counter the earlier problem).

True but in general, if someone is away from their keyboard, they won’t know they are getting voted.

To be fair we did that last game and won with only one mislynch.

To clarify on your theory on the theme spilt would a hypothetical scholars mate be town and blunder be mafia?

You are not 100% sure, and you can’t be. And if we have a lot of information, so much show you would rather lynch me, then why did you vote Barney?

Because you’re going to rather lynch someone you aren’t even sure is scum over getting information.

Regardless of what JoeBob is, lynching him now vs lynching him later won't change the number of scum we lynch, just when we lynch them.

Sure. He’s between not being active at all and just being active enough to not draw suspicion.

Your the one voting him

Are we trying to get a character claim from Barney?

Hard to focus on who if half of the people here have sent less than 5 messages.

First you asked for my character and I answered almost instantly, then 5 hours later you ask for character, and I once again answer almost instantly.

Each move set on the list for algebraic is a night that I track someone. So the 1 would be the night, the first set of numbers/letters would be who I tracked, and the second set would be who they tracked/visited that night.

Can I vote for no one. like can I vote to not lynch anyone?

How fast did he claim his role? I dont know if an experienced player would suggest that as your role. 

Ok. So algebraic notation is a list of moves, from 1 to whenever the game ends. You don’t see that list until after the game ends, or in this case, I die. During the game the information is useless, same as it is here as I can’t do anything with it, just like here. After the game ends however, you can go back and check what you could’ve done better, and it is suddenly useful. Same with here. After I die, I am suddenly useful.

Yes, that’s what “everyone can see the results” means.

so then don’t vote me until a future DP when I am more useful and you can’t lynch anyone else. Voting me now makes no sense.

I dont buy that it’s something Joebob would come up with on its own. I reckon that, yeah, hes basically a vanilla until he dies, but I assume the intent Austin had was to not have him out his role. Not a well crafted role if I may say so.

So, again, is Austin just going to post that list publicly if/when you die (i.e. at the start of the DP after you are killed)? 

Honestly, this is just the oddest combination of roles. It's like a heavily nerfed Tracker where the results may end up being entirely useless due to the delays built into getting that information and making it publicly available. The only benefit I can see to having the role be restricted in this way is that it makes you negative utility for scum to NK, but the role seems tailor-made to be a lynch target. Sincerely, if this is a fake claim scum came up with, it's one of the oddest choices I've ever seen because you are basically forcing us to consider you as our lynch in any future DP just to get some additional information, and the fact that you're unverifiable until you die effectively puts you at or near the top of everyone's scum pile. And if this is something Austin came up with, then I sincerely feel for you because you'd be sussed regardless of what you did.

I think we should keep JoeBob alive. I buy his role claim and he outted his character claim fast enough. If nothing else, we can lynch him DP2.

So, again, you're a Tracker who wouldn't get any information, meaning you're only useful once you've successfully targeted people during the NP and died. Alright. That means that scum, at least after this NP (NP1 you'd arguably have some value, since then you couldn't deliver info to town), have negative utility in using their NK on you since you'd provide info to town. That sounds like a pretty good excuse for surviving every NP going beyond NP1, though I'd say your value to town is negligible considering that it's always going to be one NP behind (i.e. if we lynch you DP2, we'll get info from NP1 in DP3).

If you survive NP1, then town has a valid reason to lynch you so long as there is not a common target of suspicion: you can provide info to town, delayed as it is. So you would become our default lynch in the absence of a better choice.

Does that sum it up?

There was also no indication in the DP that scum were given role hints, but that's not ruling out that they could've and austin didn't tell us. 

But thats just a theory, a game theory.

Lets say tonight I tracked you. When I die im guessing it would look something like this:

NP1: ILikePie5 tracked/visited so and so.

and then NP2 would do the same and so forth.

???

I don't like that he changes your pressure into "Your just mad that I defended Savant" when that was never really your reason for pursuing him in the first place.