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@JoeBob
Ok I don’t know how important it is but I will try to explain it better.
1. D6, D4
The one at the start is what number moves we are on. It goes up by one once both white and black make a move. It goes white in front, then black always. The D6 is a pawn moving to D6. Every other leave has a letter in front of the D to let us know what piece it is. For example, kD6 would be the knight, which is k, moving to D6. If you look at the chess board, or an image online, you will see that each space has a letter at number, letter first then number. Back to the pawn. After white moves, there is a comma, then black moves. 
Rhat is the basics to it. Though I quit chess a bit ago so some parts may be incorrect.
I know that, but how does that tell us who visited who when you die?

I’m asking Austin if I get to know who visited who when I track someone, or is it only when I die do I get to know, though he is asleep so I won’t get an answer until the morning.
Interesting
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@JoeBob
ChatGPT messed up that second last sentence a bit. I bet it’s just a list of whoever I chose that night, who they tracked/visited, if anyone.

But some background information. A notation sheet is all of the algebraic notations that were made, put in a list. For example:
1. D6, D4
2 would be the same as 1, and it continues until the game ends.
So let me get this straight. You know who visited who in the night. If you die those results get confirmed to us? The notation part makes no sense either
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@JoeBob
I’m essentially an algebraic notation, a method of encoding used to document chess game moves for review, sharing, and playback post-game. This notation relies on a detailed coordinate grid to track pieces' movements to specific squares. Think of me as the Flipped Tracker: I can monitor a player each night, noting whom they visited, if anyone. In case of my demise, this notation sheet unveils my findings. I win with the town.
That’s powerful. What’s this notation sheet? Is it like a will?
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@JoeBob
What is a miller? I looked it up and it was something about BusBoy, and Polygraph or something, which I doubt is it.
Miller shows up as guilty to a cop investigation but wins with town
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@JoeBob
why? 
Cause I’m going to try to lynch you, so your role may be the only thing stopping me from doing so
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@JoeBob
Am I just supposed to accept the lynch?

sorry yall but I accept defeat 

Like no. I’m going to be defending my points. I am also trying to take a more active stance since I know I haven’t been and because of that I haven’t been a good town member last game for example. But I’m looking to change that so I become more active.
I know you are. If you’re town then you should definitely do that. But you’re likely not, which is why you’re more conscious about what you post and how you post it. Oh at this point you should full claim
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@JoeBob
He also said it may or may not show depict the theme split 
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@JoeBob
Austin said some of his videos will hint to the theme split. Does that fit?
I’ve looked at it, but too many variables to consider exactly what he’s trying to depict in those.
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@JoeBob
So you want to lynch me because I worded a post weird in your eyes, and that my character doesn’t fit with what you aren’t even sure is the theme split.
And your behavior at this point. Never seen you so defensive. But yes—your post was scummy to me and I explained why. The themesplit I have in mind fits so far very well. I alluded to it in a post.

Also I’m not sure if you have said it, but what do you think is even the theme split?
I alluded to it in one of my posts. Basically universality vs specific.
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@JoeBob
Why do you want to lynch me. I want to hear your reasons.
I explained earlier: for the verbiage in your post that you used and your character that doesn’t fit the theme split I have in mind.
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@Earth
I will think about a suitable soft claim and will do so if I like it.
Fair enough, now let’s lynch JoeBob
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@Lunatic
@Barney
Any thoughts on my post about JoeBob 
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@Barney
Per your request: something! 🙃
Gracias
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@JoeBob
And yet you’re saying I’m scum because of it.
That’s wrong. I’m not saying you’re scum because of your opinion. I’m saying you’re scum because of your behavior and wording in your post
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@JoeBob
I doubt that im the only one that’s an outlier.
We shall see
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@JoeBob
You are. All I literally said was to not lynch Savant today, and your harping me on it.
You’re entitled to your opinion
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@Earth
Algebraic Notation doesn't seem to be outside the realm of possibility. You say it's universal, but I'm not really buying it. Besides, he putted his claim in like 10 minutes.
Scum weren’t given fake claims, so if he’s scum which I think he is, it’s his real claim and part of the themesplit. Not to mention that my theme split fits everyone revealed so far and probably fits Whiteflame. The outlier is Algebraic Notation. If you want to soft claim what your character like what WF did, I can confirm or deny whether it fits the theme split.
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@Lunatic
@Barney
@Vader
Can yall say something
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@whiteflame
I’ll consider it, but I want at least a couple of the inactives to chime in before pursuing anything.
I agree

In a sense, yes. That’s why I’m considering your proposed split, though I think I need to see a couple of other soft claims before I can come to any conclusion.
I can probably guess what some of the townies have assuming my split is correct. I also have a decent idea of what scum may have.
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@whiteflame
It is still an opportunity to get some intel on his behavior as scum, and notably, the only one we have. 
Fair enough.

It expresses a degree of uncertainty that I would not expect to see in a scum post from him. That caution would have to be his scum partner coming through, which is possible, but I don’t have good reason to believe that yet.
The uncertainty feels contrived af though. I’ve never seen that come from him in any game. Though my knowledge is off of the games I’ve played with him directly. Keep in mind that his partner could be AWOL though.

As of now I think he’s the best candidate to lynch. We have 3 claims already. I’m fine getting a role from Joe and making a decision. Idk where the inactives are which is annoying af too

I guess that’s one way to look at it. I think there are several plausible theme splits, though I’ll note that Algebraic Notation isn’t consistently an outlier.
The split works with my charscter, and I’m 90% sure it works with yours based on what you said earlier.
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@whiteflame
Alright, having just caught up on the DP… yeah, I don’t get the basis for this push on JoeBob. I think the basis for sussing him is weak at best, and this statement by Pie is just flat out false:
Eh I don’t consider that a game in the first place. There’s a reason why I didn’t play that game. Point taken though.

I can confirm that I’ve played with JoeBob as scum. I’ve seen how he behaves in the role. I think he’d be more careful about his posts if he was scum, since he regularly requested help with those posts in that game. None of what I’ve seen so far matches his scum behavior in that game.
Yes exactly but that’s just my point. He’s extremely cautious with his posts. That post screams wanting to seem like he doesn’t know the fact that Savant is definitely town.

That being said, the character claim doesn’t automatically give much away (though I’ll note that it’s also associated with moves, bringing it in line thematically with Castling), so the information garnered can still be useful without providing too much info to scum.
Castling
Pawn
Algebraic Notation

The odd one out is algebraic notation at this point in time. The first two are more niche. A specific piece in game where there are multiple pieces. A move in a game where there are multiple moves. Algebraic notation is universal.
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@JoeBob
Point still stands. I put dots and your loosing it thinking I’m scum. You’re being ridiculous.
Am I? The dots are irrelevant to my entire post, yet you’re still harping on them. I’m not being ridiculous 
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@JoeBob
I have no clue what you mean by that.
Read my post.

I am algebraic notation.
Interesting
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On a side note—good to see Earth being so active
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@JoeBob
So because I used dots, I’m suspicious? That makes no sense.
No. Your phrasing 
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@Earth
You keep forgetting JoeBob is a new player.
Sure, which makes my point even more valid. He’s never played as scum. He’s more likely to make the mistake if anything.
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@Savant
How about... not lynching Savant day one, as you could have voted out a town because of a policy you have. Let him live for at least today.
Read this carefully. “Could have” is a really odd choice of words. This is past sense. That means he knows for a fact that Savant is town. Normally, you would say something like: “as you may/could vote out a town. It’s a really odd choice of language. We know that scum need to be more conscious of what they post since they can’t seem like they know who is town or scum.
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@Savant
JoeBob doesn't strike me as suspicious so far. I'm not saying that you are scum or that he isn't, but pushing for claims this early based on extremely limited evidence is not a good idea.
The way he phrased it is scummy af. That’s inherently suspicious. Scum have to be more careful about how and what they post. Town can just post. Scum are also informed about who is town and who is not. Combine these two and the post is extremely sus
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@Savant
I'm fine with that. Haven't played with a lot of people before so my behavioral reads may be off. My inclination is to suspect you since you are accusing me and I know I'm town. But you also strike me as a very proactive player in general, so that's far from conclusive. For now, I'll take your accusation on the chin and keep an eye out for scum.
Think of it this way. If your town you’re incentivized to scum hunt and find a target. If you’re scum, you have to create a way to go after a townie and that makes you vulnerable 
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@Earth
@Vader
@whiteflame
@Savant
@Moozer325
Help me pressure JoeBob please
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@JoeBob
How about... not lynching Savant day one, as you could have voted out a town because of a policy you have. Let him live for at least today.
I explained myself in previous post. Your wording here is very very odd though. It seems carefully crafted to avoid knowing that Savant is town in the first place.

Unvote VTL JoeBob 
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@Savant
I expected some level of suspicion, but there's no reason to lynch me day one when I've been transparent about being a Miller. That's basically throwing every single game that has a Miller in it.
It’s a good fake claim for scum because investigators can’t discern them. At MYLO/LYLO you become very suspicious if that’s your role, and I would prefer to avoid that headache. Anyways, like I said, you’re policy assuming we don’t find another suitable target. So I suggest you start scum hunting 
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@Savant
I'm going to come right out and say this in D1, since revealing it after being investigated would just be suspicious. Despite winning with the town, my role has a "Miller" modifier, which means I will be shown as guilty if investigated by the cop.  Revealing the rest of my role would be pretty bad for the town, and I couldn't confirm it anyway. If it comes to revealing or being lynched, I'll reveal, but it would be far from ideal.
What’s your character? I generally policy lynch millers DP1 unless there’s a viable alternative. 
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unvote  VTL Savant
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@Moozer325
I'll suppose I'll be honest. I'm a castling, I can use my ability once to protect one piece (king), and make one piece's next moves untamperable (rook).
You generally want to keep character and role information to yourself. Cause now mafia now what powers you have and manipulate them.
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@whiteflame
Unless Earth proceeds to drop out of the discussion and vanish into the background of this DP, I’m not onboard for pushing him. That being said, you do have a tendency to do that for long stretches, so keep in mind that it’ll make you a target for pushes like this if you do.
Well then, who do you want to push
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@Earth
I suppose. But I still don't see why you need a claim to accomplish that. 
Well because it locks you into a claim early. If you’re scum you’re going to be forced to claim either your real character (most likely) or a fake character (unlikely because CC). Then we can do theme analysis
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@Earth
tbh this is a little odd because it seems like a non sequitur to ask for a claim because I am not active. 
I would prefer that you don’t skate by like you always do. Locking in a claim early prevents that.
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@Savant
Does Pie always demand claims from a lot of players? He did so last game and was mafia.
My actions are not affiliation indicative
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@Earth
Unvote

VTL Earth
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@Moozer325
I know the normal rules from summer camp, but are there any special chess mafia rules?
Kind of. There are special roles besides your usual Mafia, Doctor, Cop. This is forum mafia so we look for behavioral reads off of posts, etc

Oh, and I did read the rule guide, and it sounds a bit more complicated, but fun too.
For sure. Ask anyone if you have any questions.
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After Moozer answers, I want a claim from Earth at the very least. He’s not always that active in the DP
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Finally no games with trolls
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@Moozer325
VTL Moozer

What experience do you have playing mafia? Have you had a chance to read the mafia guide? 
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Very interesting indeed
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@Vader
@JoeBob
You can also call him SupaDaddy or Gay
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@JoeBob
Why does everyone call Vader supa?
His old name was SupaDudz and he made everyone call him SupaDaddy
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@Mharman
Bruh it’s summer don’t be a hoe
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@AustinL0926
Not really going to wade into this, but I think lumping GP into the same category as BK is a bit unfair. He legitimately puts in effort in many of his games, and even called the entire scum team at the end of DP1. His lack of analysis can be frustrating, but I've never seen him actively troll or throw a game.

Full claiming DP1 is actively throwing the game. Theres no effort. 
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@Double_R
Then you should have no problem bringing your prosecution. Good luck.
Yep it’ll work out
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