ILikePie5

He’s better than me. I’d just hammer myself and laugh 

Anyone I’m done playing this until we decide if we mass claim or until next day phase. This is now annoying me and I’m going to start being a dick 

I think it sets up like that. I don’t think savant is scum. 

I mean if you guys are going to throw by doing a dumb policy lynch that’s on you. I just think scum is either heavily on the wagon or not participating at all and I actually think whiteflame would resist that 

I think Connor is half right. I don’t think I’ve learned my lesson. Just when I think town is being annoying. I will sac a game to prove a point. And if I get policy lynched enough, I just go back to not playing or playing of mafia scum/ or epic mafia when I get an itch. I can see connors reason and I buy it because it’s typically his thought process. I don’t buy it for whiteflame. 

I think whiteflame would push back a bit on a genuine town read instead of bandwagoning a policy lynch. And when you guys inevitably do it to me in the following dp. I’m going to lie about my role or refuse to claim as well and mafia will either be leading the policy lynches or just sitting back laughing watching town bury itself 

So the argument is lynch a person you town read to prove a point or lynch a person you town read because after (24 hours) you think we won’t get another lynch because RM is being stubborn. You know we don’t need RM to Lynch anyone. You just ignore him and move on.  

I’m not sure I buy either of these as plausible or something you would do. Maybe more the first but I feel like you genuinely town reading him is a reason to resist a policy lynch. 

The difference between me and pie, is that I won't black list you, ill just support lynching you every game, or just straight up killing you as scum and ensure you have a horrible time playing in every game until you stop this sh1t. We've done it before to people who tried this nonsense we will do it again. I suggest pie changes his mind and join me in the attempt to just lynch you in every game instead of quitting mafia. 

Ill take this as my answer from earth, I am assuming you already asked him if there was fake claims and he said no

Lynch me if you want. That's me taking one for the team.

No, they'll believe that I could be anything including a power role. Which means that using this strategy all the time is playing to maximize my win rate, literally the point of the game.

Odd that it's always me being lynched "just to be safe." Not WF, not Mikal, not Luna. Even though you've repeatedly failed to read all of us and tend to over-town-read them while over-scum-reading me. If you keep mislynching me it's your own fault for not recalibrating your reads.

Well if town is gonna lynch me anyway it doesn't matter if I claim, they'll see my full PM the next day.

And then killed at night w/ the power role. But if I always refuse to claim I won't always get lynched for it and can use the power role.

Why would I want to help the town when I'm scum?

Mikal has literally said he uses the same strategy and apparently wins a lot with it. So it's not anti-town to use except when I'm scum, in which case I want the town to lose.

Not anti-town. Some claims would get be lynched even if I'm town,

and sometimes I have power roles.

If I always refuse to claim, town is better off in those games.

Also I do hope the game we're co-hosting is still on, I mean I won't be playing in that one.

That's gonna be difficult for all the games you don't host, cause I'm probably gonna play in all of them.

So your point is "lynch your townread because I believe scum will be on whatever other lynch is setup." That's not a super convincing argument for why Savant is scum.

How do you know what role he is?

So you think I'm town and want to lynch me for being "stupid"?

He wants to help his partner get many reads to solocarry later.

To be safe I think we should soft claim justification as I described. Give an allegory or a riddle or something that is obviously tied to justification once you explain it.

You on board to soft your justification at 6pm cst/7pm est on the dot tomorrow?

Vote him or me.

I am not changing. 100% 

Doesnt say that in my role description at all 

I cannot be visited?

I must have misunderstood wylteds role if he can stop that

Investigate WF or Luna tonight please.

Ultra is Town. I am somewhat sure 

Do you want protectors to prioritise you, Pie or me?

3 full claims is a lot for dp1. That’s why I’d rather just mass claims with where this is going. The more pressure people have the more info scum have to fake claim. It’s why id rather do it all at once instead of bouncing around to each person 

Mikal does literally the same thing. Why is it only a problem when I do it?

He got killed early for playing his wincon last game and he’s getting targeting it. I read all that as annoyance. 

The only thing that sticks out where I actually scum read him a bit is activity 

We can do this dance every game if that's what you insist on. You'll just going to have to lynch me day 1 every time.

I'd like some feedback on my thoughts on Ultra first, but I'm okay with pushing Savant for a claim. 

The only thing that sticks out to me about savant is the lack of posting and effort compared to normal. It’s extremely different from the past 2 games. I would be okay with him full claiming if we weren’t doing a mass claim but he said we’d have to kill him.  I almost feel bad bullying him but his behavior this game is certainly not on base with his normal style of play. Like glaringly so 

It’s useless dp2. We need to consent and do it all together. If it’s effective. It has to be done at the same time and claims stick out. 

Dp2 it’s worthless. 

I agree that the frustration reads as genuine, but I could see him avoiding doing the percentage thing as scum largely because it would be hard to fake. I feel like it would require more effort as scum.

I thought Whiteflame knows it too.

I don't see remotely why knowing theme more is a good reason to keep the mafia around.

It makes them far more dangerous to keep around. Mikal if scum now got a lot of info on everyone from the letters alone.

Also if Mikal knows about a game usually Lunatic does too.

I low-key wana mass claim at a specific time. 

I think we solve the game 

Fair enough. I'll drop my sus, I do buy that he's likely town based on his behavior so far. If WyIted and Pie are willing to set aside their concerns, I am as well.

I’m also fine leaving Casey alone.