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@IwantRooseveltagain
That’s bullshit. DeSantis deliberately broke up black districts to weaken black political power and protect white community interests. It was blatantly unconstitutional but the state courts didn’t care. In the south, it isn’t against the law to be racist and pass laws that disadvantage groups based on race.
You’re not a state court judge. I’m more likely to trust a state court judge who has studied constitutional law for years. Having that black district was a gerrymander. Just look at the district lol. Take a look at the Louisiana district that’s mandated by the VRA.
My whole point is red states have laws and constitutions that make it legal to discriminate based on race or partisan politics and blue states do not allowsuch discrimination.
That is false. Both red states and blue states gerrymander, and both have non-partisan commissions as well. Illinois has the most egregious gerrymander in the nation.
You might as well be defending white-only drinking fountains because “it’s the law” so it’s legal.
What? Drawing a Jacksonville to Tallahassee district just so black people who have nothing in common in terms of community of interest are together is literally the definition of a racial gerrymander
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@Vader
If I am shit at mafia, you are diarrhea and regurgitation combined.
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Show me a non-financial brain, and I could point it to a Democrat
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@IwantRooseveltagain
The GOP needed to net just five seats to flip control of the House, and seven were nearly handed to them by New York and Florida alone—because one court stepped in to force a pro-Republican gerrymander and another court refused to step in and stop one. And all the while, the Supreme Court says it’s not its problem that Republicans are jamming the levers of democracy.
NY was winnable for Dems if Kathy Hochul was a good candidate. She literally by herself dragged 3-4 congressional challengers and incumbents down by like 10-15 points. That’s not me saying that, it’s DCCC Chairman Sean Patrick Maloney who lost his seat. NY was not a pro-GOP gerrymander by anyways. It was a nonpartisan map.
Florida followed their state constitution. Deal with it. Even Democratic judges ruled their own party’s map an egregious gerrymander. That should say something. No objective person can look at Florida’s map and say it’s gerrymandered. Geographical limits doesn’t equal gerrymandering. Protecting community interest doesn’t equal gerrymanderinf
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Ya well Democrats try to be fair and set an example for good governance. I think it’s crazy if the other side (red states)doesn’t do it too.
You do realize that it was Democratic justices on the NY Court of Appeals that ruled the map unconstitutional right? You also realize that the people of New York put this issue on the ballot. Gerrymandering laws exist in Florida, and their courts upheld the map
Well if you are talking about the shape of the district that s not the sole indicator of a gerrymandered district
You’re confusing a geography problem with a gerrymandering problem. Democrats can’t get a majority of the House seats in WI even though they can win nationwide, for one reason. Dem voters are packed in 2 areas: Madison and Milwaukee. There’s literally one seat each for both cities. But the rest of the state is disproportionately red.
New York has a similar problem with NYC.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
So red states like Florida can gerrymander with impunity but blue states have to follow the rules. That’s not going to hold up.
Who said NY had to pass laws banning gerrymandering?
Florida is not even close to a gerrymander lol. The maps look a million times better than NY and IL.
An objective person could not look at FL and say that’s an extreme gerrymander. Democrats have a geography problem in Florida like they do in Wisconsin.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
His district was redrawn by the courts genius.Blue states have established obstacles to gerrymandering that you will not see in red states.
NY Dems knew this and still drew an extreme gerrymandering plan. Karma is a bitch
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@SirAnonymous
Judging by how Trump's candidates did in swing states, I think it's safe to say that Trump 2024 would be political suicide for Republicans.
That is unfortunately the reality of it. Establishment GOP would rather that let the Dems win and let everything go to shit in spite of Trump. Unfortunate.
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@SirAnonymous
What would you have said on Monday?
Trump without a question.
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@SirAnonymous
Perhaps this will finally teach Republicans that they need to dump Trump.Perhaps pigs will fly.
It’s the establishment honestly. Trump voters vote for establishment candidates, but establishment doesn’t vote for Trump candidates. It’s like how can you vote for Brian Kemp but then also vote Warnock.
I will say after last night, if comes down to Trump and DeSantis in the primary, I do not know who I would vote for
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@Greyparrot
Looks like the Dems will be owning the next 2 years of inflation/recession. I'm quite happy about this.
You reap what you sow
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@SirAnonymous
Although I am glad that Pie outsmarted mafia into making him win instead of them. As I understand it, his wincon was activated as soon as he was lynched, but mafia needed one more kill to win. A fitting, ignominious ending to the great Starbuck's gambit.
Lol, I honestly thought it was going to be a joint win, guess not lmaoo
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@Barney
@crystalynx
Can you please vote me so that I win as well
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@Wylted
@Vader
If y’all shot me last night, please vote for me so that I win with y’all
VTL Pie
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@whiteflame
…seriously? Now we’re just winning games with the promise of Starbucks gift cards? Hell, why not just fucking throw the whole concept of actually playing the game out the window and just tell everyone what we are from the outset with the promise of some reward?Seriously, this is the precedent you guys want to set for future games? Have at it then.
He’s trolling. Wylted is a poor white hillbilly
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@That2User
I asked if anyone would help, 0 said anything, lemme get back with the votes
Then ask someone who is playing. I would’ve helped you and not played. 8 players are sent anything worse than 9 players
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@crystalynx
u can say that without being insulting
Ik, that’s my b. I meant the game was bastard
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@PREZ-HILTON
A lot of people don't know this about pie but he is an asshole
Ily <3
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@crystalynx
i'm pretty sure this is their first time moddingtry to be respectful please we're trying to have fun
It would’ve been good if they got this setup checked by someone is all im saying. A 9player game shouldn’t end by DP2
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@PREZ-HILTON
So you can still win this game and help us this do. VTLing me seems to work against your win con.
I’m not voting you lol
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@Vader
Your wincon is joint win. Hammer so that you can win the game. Not pander to the town
That2 is an ass mod. I don’t win if I just survive. I have to get 2 points. It’s the shittiest role I’ve ever seen in my life
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@Vader
Hammer now. Whiteflame is town for certain. You need to win, not pander to the town
I’ll make a deal with you; shoot me tonight and vote me tomorrow
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@PREZ-HILTON
Pacifist - each night you save someone. If you successfully protect someone this protection extends into the day, meaning if they're vtld they will be saved. Each time I protect someone against being killed I get 1 point. If I get 2 you win the game. I win as Third Party.
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@Vader
@PREZ-HILTON
Are y’all high? It takes 4 votes to lynch someone
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Supa is screaming scum right now and Wylted is allying the fuck out of Supa
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@Vader
So I can shoot you in the NP2 when we have evidence
Lmfaoooo.
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@Vader
Pie and WF are scum and I will not vote anyone else nor will I be reasoned with. There is no way that this format would exist in this game because scum would auto lose
I’m not scum you moron. I’m TP. Corey was TP.
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@whiteflame
I am now vanilla town - I’m guessing that Pie converted me through some skill he kept hidden.
I have no such ability lol
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I’m confirming with That2 if the immunity Supa used applies today as well
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@Vader
If you lynch Wylted I am going to kill Pie directly with my shot. Scummy fucks
Why didn’t you kill me last night lol
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@Vader
This is really funny because I originally going to use my kill, but since I was lynched I went with WF. Guess it worked lol
You weren’t lynched lol. Thanks for not using your shot to confirm yourself.
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@whiteflame
Supa wasn’t lynched last DP, so he likely still has a 1X deathproof, which means we’ll have to kill him twice. I think we should eliminate Wylted now and then work on him over the next 2 DPs. Anyone with a role they can use to prevent Supa from doing anything should use it on him during NP2.
If he used it, which he likely did, then he’s no longer immune today. If what you say is true, then we should kill Supa today.
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