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@oromagi
What’s the future for your selections? Spell it out for me. How do we proceed with you’re selections?
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@oromagi
You and RM- makes sense from Earth's perspective
This was in R1 before the decision was even made…
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@oromagi
My point stands proved: you've convinced yourself that Earth is the spy when objectively RM is the more likely of the two.
Why is RM “objectively” more likely to be Spy? Just cause he wanted to be on the mission?
Did you read who Earth didn’t want on a mission? Cause objectively that gains better reads than wanting to be on the mission
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@whiteflame
Valid point. I guess the issue here is more with who we're going to choose for the next round than for this one. Like I said, I suspect that even if there is a Spy in this one, they will not sabotage this round. Whoever the other Spy is, they have more to gain by staying quiet this round than they do by sabotaging due to PoE alone.
I may have a strategy for that as well, which I will divulge later. It’s really simple tbh
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@oromagi
But that's because you've convinced yourself that Earth is the spy when objectively RM is the more likely of the two. I suffer from no such conviction and I don't understand yours.
That is absurdly false. Just read my interactions with Earth. It becomes obvious that he’s the Spy just based on what he said and when he said. The only way you reject this is if you believe both RM and Earth are spies.
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@whiteflame
Think of it this way. Even if Oro is a Spy, if he plays a Spy card, he’s toast. We practically confirm that he’s a Spy. We’ll likely get a Resistance play here.
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@RationalMadman
What do you want to talk about?
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@Vader
@whiteflame
@oromagi
Vote yes let’s get on with this
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@Earth
Vote yes so we can get the game moving Spy scum
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@RationalMadman
@Vader
@oromagi
Let’s get on with this. Vote Aye
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@RationalMadman
Or Oro tbh. The 3 are about equal to me atm
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@RationalMadman
I’m fine with you, me, and Supa. I know I’m Resistance. Earth is definitely Spy just based on responses.
I don’t believe you’d play a Spy policy and risk freezing yourselves up for the rest of the game if you were a spy.
For everyone else R1 post #46 shows that Earth is pretty much confirmed Spy since he doesn’t want RM and Pie going on a team meaning neither of us are likely Spies.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Change my vote to Yes
After rereading I have my doubts about Oro/Supa. I believe if both Earth and RM were Spies they’d play a Resistance Card first rather than freeze themselves.
After rereading I have my doubts about Oro/Supa. I believe if both Earth and RM were Spies they’d play a Resistance Card first rather than freeze themselves.
RM is a strong resistance to me and my strongest read. I will defer to him with regards to Supa.
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@whiteflame
Why do you believe Oro is second spy?
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@oromagi
Why do you believe RM is more likely to be a spy than Eartg?
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Earth: Pie + RM
RM: Earth + Oro/WF
Pie : Earth + Supa
WF: Earth + Oro
Oro: RM/Earth/WF
Supa:
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Earth: Pie + RM
RM: Earth + Oro/WF
Pie : Earth + Supa
WF: Earth + Oro
Oro:
Supa:
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@RationalMadman
Supa and Earth is viable, I just really like Supa's bio and cluelessness.
I think it’s clear Earth is a Spy. It’s conceivable that you are a spy as well tho.
I need to know what everyone else feels before I can make a more informed decision in voting
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Earth: Pie + RM
RM: Earth + Oro/WF
Pie : Earth + Supa
WF:
Oro:
Supa:
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@RationalMadman
is the Tedpran Garrison said to be on a certain side of the war?
“Drafted at the age of 19 in 879 NEC in preparation for the Scourgian-Odigos war.”
That’s all it says.
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@Earth
Like you are angry I won't say if Oro/Sups is a spy when I said that Spy team is RM/Pie?
I’m asking why you think they would be when you’ve decided me and RM are spies
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@whiteflame
However, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Pie isn't the only one who has proposed that someone should be on a given mission in this game. By that logic, you should be just as sus of Oro, who has also proposed a team for a mission and included himself on it. So, why does Pie stand out to you while Oro doesn't?
It really makes no sense. If he thinks the team is me and RM, why does he have to think about who out of Oro and Supa are scum? He has to be a Spy
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I'm busy at work. I voted down Pie's team because pie proposed it.
RM, Pie is my spy team.
Ok, then why did you say this after voting NO?
I'll have to think on that. I'll admit I am kinda lazy, but I need to look back on who RM wanted to be on his team.
Why would you have to think if you believe me and RM are on a team?
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I believe Earth sabotaged the mission. Don’t know about RM tho.
Why would Earth vote No and then not say who he thinks is the Spy between Oro and Supa? The only reason he votes No is if he thinks one of Oro, Pie, or WF are spies. No inclination that he thought WF or I were spies.
If Earth is a spy then it makes sense that he’d vote no cause his spy partner (Supa or RM) isn’t on the wagob
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@Vader
Therefore at least one of those two is a spy
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@Vader
So that means the mission failed because one of those 3 who went on the last mission failed. Am I correct?
Only Earth and RM went on the mission and it failed
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@Vader
From the game, they try to go on missions to try to make it so that the mission fails
Ok…so sabotaging a mission =/= making mission fail?
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@Vader
The game rules on the Wiki never said anything about sabotage lol
So what did you believe spies could do?
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@oromagi
So who out of Earth, RM, and WF do you believe are the spies?
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@RationalMadman
I actually am inclined to vote yes (this is not me voting)I really like Oro's bio except for that it's a real place that's mentioned. It matches mine much more.
So you believe it’s exactly Earth and WF?
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@RationalMadman
Affiliation: Resistance
Date of Birth: 02/35/860
Bio:
—Drafted at the age of 19 in 879 NEC
—Stationed in various Tedpran garrisons to conduct anti-insurgency operations .
—Deserted with squad in 881 after friendly fire incident resulting from the discovery that their squad leader had abused POWs.
—Defected to a local rebel warlord and provided Intel to them in exchange for helping flee the region
—Now wanted for desertion, murder, and treason.
—Joined various anti-government movements in effort to locate and eventually free families of those involved
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@Earth
I'll have to think on that. I'll admit I am kinda lazy, but I need to look back on who RM wanted to be on his team.
I await your answer.
And second, why did you vote No to these 3 people?
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@Earth
Who do you want on the mission: Supa or Oro.
And why?
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Possible teams:
RM/Earth
RM/Pie
RM/Oro
RM/WF
RM/Supa
Earth/Pie
Earth/Oro
Earth/WF
Earth/Supa
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@whiteflame
Have you considered an RM/Supa team?
RM goes after Supa for making a filler statement that was clearly founded on ignorance in R1. Here he does the same thing R2, but it’s suddenly a Resistance move rather than ignorance.
Supa didn’t even know who went on the mission and that spies can sabotage, which is literally the purpose of the game. Is Supa that ignorant that he doesn’t know what’s going on. As a Spy he has to be against this Mission because all 3 of us would be Resistance. On R3 it would be us 3 and either Earth/RM. If it’s Spy we know it’s either RM or Earth and we essentially win.
I think you and I should definitely be on the Mission
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@RationalMadman
Supa hadn't even realised he should be 100% against the team, he just saw them and went 'why aren't we suspecting them' then revealed his main focus was on me being scummy.This is very towny thought process.
Or it’s a “I have no idea what’s going on” thought process
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@Vader
Wait, why aren't we suspect of Oromagi, WF, and Pie? If they went on the mission and it failed, it means one of them drew the fail card.
They didn’t tho…
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@RationalMadman
It's actually better for us to have discussed and made a concrete conclusion on who between Earth and myself is the fake (even if the rest say they think it's both Earth and myself, which I know for sure it isn't).
Problem is that there’s no way to confirm you even if you are on the team.
I’m inclined to believe you over Earth because going Spy in the first round is practically suicidal based on the odds. This next round can give us more info because it can give us a confirmed Resistance who will be on every team moving forward, or a resistance decisions followed by the same 3 people going again with one out of RM/Earth/X
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@whiteflame
I will point out that, while Earth appeared to be a random pick in the last round, it was Pie who suggested him. Not saying that that necessarily puts Pie in the crosshairs, especially considering that Earth's response to RM suggesting a Pie/RM team was "Why?" Doesn't seem like the kind of response someone would give to having their spy partner put on the mission.
It truly was random. If you were #1 I’d have advocated for you and RM
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