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@coal
Doesn't seem like it.
I think I know my role better than you.
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@coal
Do you understand how the dreamer role works?
Uh ya?
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@coal
As obvious as this may be, if we mislynch today this is going to fuck up the rest of the game and that can be avoided by being deliberate and methodical.
If Speed is town, you are scum. Pretty simple tbh
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At this point I think it’s clear Speed is scum. As town he would’ve come back to defend himself like the way he did in Lunatic’s justified villains game.
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10 player game so it’s 7-3 or 8-2
Today it’s 5-3 (MYLO) —> Unlikely in terms of balance
OR
6-2 —> More likely
Assuming Speed isn’t scum, Coal has to be scum cause I don’t see Supa creating a game without a protective role, one that’s also relatively weak.
So tomorrow it’s either 4-2 where we lynch Coal successfully bringing 3-1 or it’s 5-1 with Lunatic and Coal confirmed along with me.
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@FourTrouble
I also don't see what's the issue with my role. I have different abilities. One of them was a day cop. Another was giving ataraxia armor to someone. The armor sounded like defense, so I gave it to RM.
So there was no item for Day Cop? That’s extremely weird and probably unprecedented.
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@FourTrouble
I'd lynch MC first, just to avoid the risk of hider dying & losing at LYLO.
We can just tell him to waive. And from my POV there’s 4 people who could be scum vs 3. Your role still does not make sense to me.
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@whiteflame
@oromagi
Might as well full claim at this point.
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@FourTrouble
I still think lynching between Oro/MC isn't a bad idea.
I heavily disagree. Lynch is 100% between Speed and Coal today. It’s a guarantee there’s scum in those two. For MC/Chris there’s no such guarantee.
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Lynch is between Speed and Coal today, depending on if WF or Oro claim a protective role.
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@FourTrouble
You could have blocked someone like MC, who didn't claim an active role. That's how most townies think about using the role.
It’s odd that he didn’t mention once that he scumread Whiteflame.
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1. oromagi - Unknown —> Unknown
2. Lunatic - Juvia Lockser —> Protector
3. iLikePie5 - Lucy Heartfilia —> Dreamer
4. MisterChris - Mirajane Strauss —> Loved
5. FourTrouble - Erza Scarlet —> JOAT: Cop, Armor
6. coal - Cana Albertina —> Drunk
7. Speedrace - Levy McGarden —> Hider
8. whiteflame - Gray Fullbuster —> Unknown
Xx. RatMan - Doranbalt —> Cop
Xx. Earth - Jellal Hernandez —> Miller
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1. oromagi - Unknown —> Unknown
2. Lunatic - Juvia Lockser —> Protector
3. iLikePie5 - Lucy Heartfilia —> Dreamer
4. MisterChris - Mirajane Strauss —> Loved
5. FourTrouble - Erza Scarlet —> JOAT: Cop, Armor
6. coal - Cana Albertina —> Drunk
7. Speedrace - Levy McGarden —> Hider
8. whiteflame - Gray Fullbuster —> Unknown
Xx. Doranbalt —> Cop
Xx. Earth - Jellal Hernandez —> Miller
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@coal
ThoughI don't think it had any impact.
What makes you say this?
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1. oromagi - Unknown —> Unknown
2. Lunatic - Juvia Lockser —> Protector
3. iLikePie5 - Lucy Heartfilia —> Dreamer
4. MisterChris - Mirajane Strauss —> Loved
5. FourTrouble - Erza Scarlet —> JOAT: Cop, Armor
6. coal - Cana Albertina —> Drunk
7. Speedrace - Levy McGarden —> Hider
8. whiteflame - Gray Fullbuster —> Unknown
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@Lunatic
You are right, mods never switch up town roles and scum roles to different teams. lYnCh CoAl NoW
You really need to sleep lol
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Are we just going to ignore that Coal claimed Town Roleblocker?
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@coal
Drunk makes someone drive them home. It's a night-action blocking role.Based on TUF's claim I'm more inclined to lynch him. Passive protective role seems to throw off balance more than a hider would. But Hider would be a good claim. So Speed isn't out of the hot water.
So you’re claiming Town Roleblocker. Who did you roleblock last night?
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@FourTrouble
Pie, do you dream every night?
If I am visited, I can’t dream.
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@FourTrouble
Coal & Pie, why'd you both assume I was fakeclaiming my result on Earth?
Day Cops are really rare. I’ve only had one pop up in my time on DART.
I also want to hear your response to WF’s question. You’re admitting that you can use your roles in the day and the night?
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@FourTrouble
Pie, can you link me your most recent town & scum games?
Heavy Hitters was when I was scum.
Black History was when I was town
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@coal
I am Cana Alberona. While in some cases I am outgoing, the vast majority of the time I am drunk ... infamous for my high alcohol tolerance. Because I am drunk all the time, I am the Drunk. I select someone to drive me home in the night phase.
Wtf does that even mean lol. And who drove you home?
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@coal
Explain the basis for your FOS on me.
According to my dream either you, Lunatic, or Speed are scum.
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@MisterChris
I'm with Pie. If we have it down between 3 players for SCUM with Dreamer, we need full claims from all of them.
Glad we agree.
Question for those more familiar with Supa's modding: is Supa the type to give a shit that he re-used the same PR for the same character?
I would never do that as mod, but we also have to remember that he had to make a new regular game just to use his turn in the mod list.
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@Lunatic
I'd almost rather just hint a category but we can see where town feels on it.
At that point might as well just role claim. Do you agree the lynch should be among you 3 today?
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@Lunatic
Out of speed and Coal, I definitely town read coal more. But I suppose we can get a character claim.
Full claims from both you. Period. We’re lynching among you 3 today. Full stop.
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@Lunatic
You Can role claim after Coal, but you’re going to have to role claim. No way out of it.
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@Lunatic
I am cool withcharacter claiming. Not so sure about role.
You can role claim after Coal.
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@Danielle
Bruh I am genuinely disturbed by the amount of times you were laughing at your own replies to me. I highly doubt you believe that I would be convinced your take on things is somehow any substantive than mine just because of a useless phrase like "lol" which proves nothing, so it just seems like you're making light of someone's murder and/or a potential (dare I say likely) jail sentence for someone you believe to be innocent... which kinda feels a little sick to be honest with you. Maybe you should explore that.
You have gone full woke with TDS. I am no longer interested in having a conversation on this subject with you. We will see the verdict in a week or two. Have a nice day.
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@Speedrace
I'm Levy McGarden and I'm a hider, I hid behind Chris
Justification and reason for choosing Chris?
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Just some preliminary thoughts and analysis:
There is 1 scum among Coal, Speed, and Lunatic
That means there’s 1 scum among FT, Chris, Oro, WF
If Coal is scum, Oro is likely town (Speed/Lunatic confirmed townies)
If Speed is scum, then Coal/Lunatic are town (can’t do more reads cause he’s literally not said much)
If Lunatic is scum, then FT is probably town and likely Oro or Chris are scum (more likely the latter) + Speed/Coal are town
The lynch should 100% be within the 3 because we have a 33% chance lynching scum. I need characters and roles before I would like to finalize lynch order
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I am Lucy Heartfilia and I am the Dreamer. There is one scum among Coal, Lunatic, and Speed.
All three should be full claiming today.
VTL Speed for full claim.
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@coal
Reason I shifted focus is because Earth is the more viable lynch, in view of FT's discovery.
Could you please expand on this?
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@FourTrouble
I'd like everyone to weigh in on the following points about Pie:1. The internal inconsistency of viewing Earth & me as his top scumreads. In my experience, townies usually try to solve the game as a whole, whereas scum tend to list out individual reads, which often ends up producing internal inconsistencies of this very type.
I’ve always listed out individual reads since DDO days. You rely your reads solely on behavior. I rely mine on a spectrum of role and behavior depending on each individual person.
2. Pie claims that I'm scum if Earth flips town, which is to say, Pie believes I'm so scummy that he's willing to believe I'm a scum who randomly faked a guilty on a townie rather than town. Pie has yet to list reasons for why I'm so scummy that he's willing to believe something that almost never happens (i.e. extremely unlikely).
I never said I thought it was random. I think it’s deliberate and I’ve seen people do it. It’s literally why I brought up Wylted cause he did it like 2 games ago. Day Cop roles to begin with are rare, which you probably did not know cause you’ve never played on DART. I find you going from wagon to wagon as scummy.
Given these two points, is there any reason to believe Pie is town?
You really want my hide don’t you lol. I’m really gonna have fun laughing at you in endgame
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@FourTrouble
Let me understand, Pie.If Earth flips town miller, you'll believe I'm scum who randomly faked a guilty result on a townie?
It’s more likely than not that Earth is scum though.
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@coal
Scum include Earth, Oro and you.Whiteflame, TUF and others who have posted are town.Speed's absence is conspicuous.RM is delusional, but town.I have periodically commented on posts indicating my thoughts on their significance and what impact they have on my reads.
This doesn’t tell me anything. Give me reasons for each individual person. C/P it if you have to.
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@FourTrouble
Let me understand, Pie.If Earth flips town miller, you'll believe I'm scum who randomly faked a guilty result on a townie?
That is correct.
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@Speedrace
20 pages?????????????????? Someone give me TLDR please
MC claims Loved Townie
FT scumreading everyone then backing off.
FT claiming he got 1x Day Cop guilty on Earth.
RM “CCs” as Night Cop
Earth claims he is the Miller after the guilty. FT clarifies his character and role is JOAT.
RM is adamant that Coal is scum and they argue
Read it all for more details.
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@FourTrouble
Pie, are you trying to solve the game? It doesn't seem that way to me. The normal way townies think is, "Earth is likely scum, so FT is probably town. Who are Earth's likely partners?"
Its an If then scenario. If Earth is scum, you’re likely town. If he flips inno then your sus.
Have you considered Earth's likely partners? Who are they?
I have already mentioned 2 candidates: Lunatic and Speed + reasons.
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@FourTrouble
I don't understand how Pie lists me & Earth as scum. Based on the game so far, everyone should view that as a very low probability team. This type of internal inconsistency is very scummy. I'd lynch Pie off this alone.
It hasn’t been rocket science that I didn’t believe your claim lol. And I didn’t list you scum. I FoSed you cause I think you’re lying about your role. There are cases where scum aren’t known to each other in a Lone Wolf situation. If Earth flips scum, you’re more likely town. If he doesn’t I would be very suspicious of you. Earth being scum is more likely tho.
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@FourTrouble
I asked for reads, not explanations. You chose to give explanations, which generally weren't very helpful or insightful.
Those were reads, and I explained them within the limited timeframe I had cause god forbid if I took 5 more minutes you’d scum read me instantly.
Plus I’ve always understood reads as Town, Null, or Scum since DDO days.
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