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@drafterman
@whiteflame
Let’s chill until everyone full claims and then we can proceed from there. I’m interested as to who Chris visited NP1.
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@whiteflame
Let’s hear from Warren, Danielle, and Chris what their roles are before we move on
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Ok so we know there should be no more than 3 scum which brings us to 5-3 at the worst meaning today is MYLO.
Everyone should be full claiming today.
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Whiteflame is most likely town. Speed said the three roles he got were all town roles. So unless there’s a method to change that, he’s probably town.
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@MisterChris
Did you abstain?If not, the roleblocker needs to come forward and say who they targeted
Abstained.
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@That1User
MisterChris was voting for me for being vanilla though, let me find it
So?
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@MisterChris
Sorry back from the dentist, what did I miss?
Me :)
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@That1User
Then I'd be lynched for being vanilla and having no utility for town, see my dilemma here?
No you wouodnt lol. As I said, I’d probably not be on you if you stuck to your story
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@That1User
Why would I reveal my true role? Why would I reveal a power role and risk being NKd by mafia? It's not a good play to reveal, it's not a good play to say what I am right now, and it's not a good play to refuse to claim anything
So why did you reveal you were the Bride lol. You’re contradicting yourself.
Wonder how you're going to react when I'm hammered and Supa says I'm NP3 Bride
Your fault if that’s what you flip, not mine.
Yeah it's my fault for being voted on not the fault of those voting and misanalyzing/mislynchingYou're thinking wrong
If you had just stuck with your story about being Vanilla I probably wouldn’t be on you lol. It is your fault.
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@That1User
WHY are you trying to mislynch?!
If you flip town, it’s your own fault not mine, but I think you’ll flip scum :)
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@That1User
I am vanilla now though, I did not lie when I said I'm vanilla
You didn’t reveal your true role, which is being dishonest. Like I said if you stuck to your story as vanilla then I would’ve been more supportive.
Speed/WF were pressuring to claim, I could have refused yeah, at this point I regret not refusing
Lol
I'm not mafia how many times do I have to say I'm not mafia I'm town. Mafia wants you to believe I am mafia to mislynch me
That’s exactly what mafia would say
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@Speedrace
I'm literally the only one to do it lol
I would do it too 🤷♂️
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@whiteflame
@warren42
@MisterChris
@WaterPhoenix
Any of y’all wanna get on and hammer so we can move on
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@Barney
Did yesterday have a twilight phase?
No, but mods dislike them to begin with so they just merge it with NP. At least that’s what Speed did
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@That1User
To stay alive, avoid a mislynch, and keep a town power role
All mafia excuses
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@That1User
About being vanilla and reveal my power role? Yeah that makes sense for town to do, reveal a power role so mafia can killThing is, I wasn't lying, for NP1 and NP2 I am vanilla
Lol you didn’t have to claim. You had like zero pressure on you to role claim.
You lied is the point. The fact you changed your story makes you scummier. If you just kept saying you were vanilla, I may have believe you. At this point, lynch all liars.
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@That1User
Please unvote me, I can prove to you I'm the NP3 Bride, why, why in the world would I make this claim up? It makes 0 sense and it's completely insane, this is my role don't VTL a town power role
So you stay alive? Its pretty obvious lol. You shouldnt have lied.
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@whiteflame
I've generally been surprised that so many people have town read Pie, especially after that move. I'm more concerned with Draft in some ways, but I'm on the same page as you here as well. Don't think anyone should rule out Pie as scum or TP.
No one should be ever ruled out.
On a side not, you gonna hammer?
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@Speedrace
THE RED QUEENI've never read a better sci-fi series
That’s actually next on my list. Never finished that series either. Got up to Kings Cage but the next books hadn’t come out yet.
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@whiteflame
I’ll check it out. Enjoyed everything Brandon Sanderson, Robert Jordan, George R.R. Martin and Garth Nix, always interested to pick up a new fantasy epic.
I have tons of reccomendations if you’re into Fantasy lol. It’s all I did for all of middle school. Celaena Sardothien is my fantasy crush 100%
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@whiteflame
Hadn't heard of the Throne of Glass series before I looked this up. I take it because you're on the 5th book that it's a good read?
Probably my all time favorite series. I’m re-reading it cause I haven’t read Kingdom of Ash yet which is a shame since it came out last year.
If you love fantasy, it’s a must read. My first mafia game was over the series
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@Danielle
Thoughts on that1user? What are your reads?
Noob, but probably scum. I’d expect this from her as a noob. At the same time when I was modding Civil War Generals, this is pretty much what happened where she panicked cause her buddies were offline at that moment and got herself lynched(Lunatic and Chris).
Speed - still scumread
Water - still scumread
Drafter - null cause of activity plus he seems to be buddying hard with me. Haven’t played with him enough to know how to read that
Whiteflame - slight townread, doesn’t give me the vibes he gave last game as Lone Wolf
Warren - nullish just cause of activity reasons. He did say the stuff about Dreamer and Speed but when went AWOL which was kinda like what he did when I was scum with him
Ragnar - null cause of activity
Danielle - probably town. She gives me the same vibes she’s been giving me as a townie for like 4 games straight. Then again I probably couldn’t tell what her scum meta is
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@That1User
How much reading do you have
1/3 of Empire of Storms, all of Tower of Dawn, and all of Kingdom of Ash
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@Danielle
But as a wise man once said: "Most of these niggas gon' hang themselves, just give 'em the rope and see."
🤭
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@Speedrace
Third, Bride is literally a Twilight role. We didn't have a twilight phase yesterday, hence the role can't exist
Weird since in your own game, you told Speed and me that you hate Twilight Phases so you just changed it a bit. Why couldn’t Supa do the same?
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@Danielle
However if the Bride proposes to scum I guess they could get her lynched by saying she never proposed? It could be an interesting way to "confirm" 2 townies if we let her live.
Pretty sure it’s publically announced if someone rejected it. Could be wrong tho, too lazy to check the list
Not sure if it's worth it though or if she just made that up cuz there was so much pushback about Supa's alleged fave character being vanilla. Hmm. And this would be another investigative role of sorts... not sure I buy it. Lemme think. Kinda scummy af she outs this info now. Another "gambit?"
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@That1User
Unvote me, I'm the NP3 bride, but I'm vanilla right now since I'm prevented from using my powers, does that claim make sense to you?
Lol that’s horseshit
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@WaterPhoenix
if that1 flips town scum is probs between wf and ragnar for leading the lynch on her maybe speed but i don't think so.
How does this make any sense
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@Speedrace
Besides that, town doesn't do gambits, only scum does
Ironic coming from you
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@MisterChris
Is this a claim of deathproof, or just Drafter assuming no one could possibly want to lynch him?
Probably the latter, I think he said the same thing last game
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@WaterPhoenix
i find this justification pretty good solely based off the fact that that1 mispelled issei as isekei which is a mistake i don't think mafia would make.
This almost like verbatim what Ragnar said earlier in the DP if I remember correctly which is interesting
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@warren42
I get that the thought process behind it isn't great but don't get why anyone's criticizing the result. Now we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
We wasted yesterday by not lynching him, which brought this whole conundrum in the first place
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@Danielle
With 13 players Pie could be a TP serial killer, however I dunno if he would have brought attention to himself by shooting NP1 if he's TP. I guess he'd have to prove he's the vig if he was gonna claim that. The question is why target Speed. I wanted to lynch Speed yesterday out of principle, not necessarily cuz I thought he was guilty. I actually suspected he was TP (ironically he's the one who mentioned there is probs a TP in the game, which I wasn't sure was intentional or not) so I'm curious if Pie thought that as well. Speed did not read maf at all IMO per the attention he was bringing to himself which I can't see him doing to teammates unless one of them was gonna bus him, and no one did (I was pushing the hardest and I'm not his teammate, so).
Cause I thought he was scum.
I don't feel the need to out who I targeted atm, but I didn't target Speed.
Did you target Croc?
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@Danielle
Is your role X-shot?
Yes, not going to reveal how many though
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@WaterPhoenix
yes, i wanted to lynch him at a later date and we could've. from the way i saw it, croc would only die if you were scum and if you weren't then he'd be fine. i didn't really account for vig but i'd say croc had less value to town than speed. (sorry croc)
Why at a later date lol, how is that any different than setting it up for NP1.
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@Speedrace
I thought you knew Water's role, yet you still want to lynch him?
Stop dodging.
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Everything Water has done points to him being scum:
He could’ve waived. He could’ve redirected me to himself.
What does he do instead: Chooses someone who he refused to lynch but was willing to be NKed?
His behavior was pretty obvious that he didn’t even town read Speed but scumread me, not to mention he flip flopped like 3 times. Are y’all going to attribute all of this a dumb townie.
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