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@MisterChris
? I literally claimed then Voted him. I'm vanilla, and I doubt there are 2.
Why?
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@warren42
What else would be the "or most" mean
What’s your definition of a PR? Is a Miller a PR?
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@Speedrace
Last time you thought you knew what the mod was gonna do you were completely wrong lol
Cause you’re retarded. No one includes a game where two people can have the same actions. It’s horseshit and bastard
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@Bullish
Rolemad is if most or all players have PRs.
Are vanillas fair game? Yes or no?
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@warren42
You guys are idiots. Role madness doesn't mean that every single player has a role, it means there are few or no vanillas.
That’s retarded.
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@MisterChris
How does that prove ANYTHING?
Cause he specifically labeled the difference between vanilla games and role madness games?
You realize the whole point of including a vanilla would be to SUBVERT expectations right?
What? If it’s rolemadness then there shouldn’t be a vanilla. I wouldn’t have played if it wasn’t rolemadness.
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@MisterChris
He literally had Supa as Vanilla with a different name. There is a precedence then of having vanilla roles in role madness in Bullish games.
He never said it was going to be a role madness game. The most previous quote from Bullish makes it very clear what he considers role madness and what he doesn’t.
That's not my point. My point is it is an extremely STUPID effort to bus. A better way would have been to just jump on the train to lynch him and claim something less stupid later on.
Your other buddy Intelligence already came out to defend him cause of panic. You have to double down on it. Warren, Chris, and Intelligence. Confirmed
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This is what Bullish said about vanilla vs role madness games:
“There can be great depth in an all vanilla game, if the players are willing to put in the pains of methodical psychological analysis, like the original game was meant for. When I was on mafiascum they were very serious about behaviours. DDO and DART are more serious about behaviours than most sites. We have popular mafia spinoff games like town of salem and among us, where there is basically 0 behavioural analysis.
I prefer more behavioural analysis, but I have to be in the mood to be super serious about it. I also think you can make a rolemad game such that the town and scum roles nearly completely cancel each other out, and you just end up with a game where the roles are as useless as vanilla.”
There’s no way in hell Bullish says this is a rolemadness game and includes a vanilla.
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@MisterChris
Riddle me this: if I were mafia, why the hell would I out myself as the same thing my "teammate" is and then VOTE FOR HIM? Don't you see how absolutely stupid that would be? Truth is, I'm town. The reason I counterclaimed is because APPARENTLY having vanilla as your role in role-madness is enough to get you insta-lynched around here, and I figured that it was better to tell you guys now instead of lying about it or revealing it down the road to simply get mislynched.Plus, yknow, there is the fact that I genuinely think Warren is scum. Since it is role madness, I have to be the only vanilla here.
It’s an effort to bus. Not that hard to comprehend. If you were vanilla you should’ve claimed the first day. I’m very particular about playing in games with vanillas.
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@MisterChris
Uh huh. Sure.
Find one rolemadness game on this site that has had a vanilla. I’ll wait.
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@MisterChris
You're going to ignore the fact it's apparently common practice to stick a vanilla in the role madness game to mess with town??
That’s definitely not common practice lol
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@MisterChris
dude. Somebody with an investigative role can confirm me. I am 100% vanilla, I swear it.My justification is pretty simple:I am a Chromebook. Since chromebook are very weak and cheap computers that are sold en masse to students and the like, I am vanilla.
Nah that’s bs. I wouldn’t have played this game if it wasn’t role madness. There’s no way you’re vanilla and neither is Warren.
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11 player game. Likely 3 scum
8-3 (Beginning)
7-3 (DP2)
Either Warren or Chris are scum. I think it’s both
5-3, 4-2 at the worse
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This is a horrible attempt to salvage the situation by MisterChris. Him and Warren are pretty much confirmed scum
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Chris and Warren are my lynches today. If there’s a vanilla in this game, it’s not rolemadness.
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@Vader
So warren lied because this is a role madness game in general. Since he lied, it's fair to give him pressure about why he lied about his role in general versus why he claimed vanilla in a rolemad game. It makes it worse since he is replacement, and maybe glanced over the Sign Ups. However, warren is a veteran. I have a hard time believing that he would accidentally slip and claim vanilla. I think it was intentional in general, but it depends on what claim he was hiding and why he covered it up the way he did.
I was very clear to Bullish about whether this was a role madness game and he said yes. If there’s a vanilla in the game that’s just bastard. Warren has to be scum. You’re overthinking
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@BearMan
1. It's no secret that you are AFK when you have a less strong role. You obviously have a power role or you are mafia.
We all have roles. It’s a role madness game.
2. Mafia wants to be discreet if they kill someone basically doing nothing for town (no offense). If they do that, it must be someone the opposite of that, already risking it and being loud. You match this description.
Danielle did was pretty vocal. I don’t see your point.
3. You said "I told you so", obviously trying to get town cred like Lunatic said.
Why are you buddying Lunatic? I’ve been advocating for first day lynches for as long as I can remember
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@BearMan
Man I just thought about it instead of mindlessly posting like I did before. NOW SHOW YOURSELF FOOL!
On what grounds?
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@BearMan
That is two instances of PIE appearing on the sus train. Ngl PIE is looking like the lynch target for today.I can conclude that PIE either has a power role or is mafia based on his behavior and trends.Now show yourself PIE.
Nice 180 in a matter of 9 minutes
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@Speedrace
I never said that there being negative utility roles mattered, I said that Danielle and skittlez having negative utility roles together gives skittlez some credibility
Why tho lol
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@Speedrace
When did I say that it mattered?
Then why’re you saying it lol
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@Greyparrot
One of the reasons Hispanics like Trump is because most of them who came here legally fled Marxist nations and have relatives still suffering in Marxist nations.The liberal professors can't indoctrinate that out of Hispanics.
My university was ranked in the bottom five in terms of free speech. It’s actually disgusting
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@MisterChris
Nope, warren had the most.
Not counting me it was tied 1-1. Intel was on Warren and Oro was on Skittle. Lunatic and Dani refused to vote Warren. Both Skittle and Warren were on my list.
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@oromagi
I recall that both you & Pie jumped on skittlez in the last hour of the DP, after I put on vote on skitz. Neither of you had much of explanation for shifting and it kind of felt d like scum hungry for lynch.
I jumped on Skitlez cause he was one of my two policy lynches. At that time he had the most votes if I recall correctly.
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@oromagi
? Did you predict no results NP1? Can you give us a link? On what did you base such an assertion?
It was during my call to lynch a person so we actually get more information. Here is what I wrote exactly:
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@Lunatic
Vtl pieGoing off of Danielle and my gut. Pies acting kind of prudish, also the "I told you so" thing is something I generally scum read as ego begging for town cred
Can you show where you’ve ever said that? I’ve been very consistent about wanting first day lynches.
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@Speedrace
Huh
Why does them both having negative utility matter?
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@Speedrace
They would both have negative utility in that case
You have anything to tell us?
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@MisterChris
Danielle was throwing some major shade on Supa & Pie. Either she was eliminated because she was an inconvenience to them, or scum is trying hard to set them up.
It’s the latter.
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@Speedrace
HelloDanielle's role makes sense for skittlez being a roleblocker
Everyone has a role. This doesn’t even mean anything
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Anyone have any results they’d like to share? Or should I say I told you so?
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@HistoryBuff
no, it just shows your mental gymnastics. You link to a poll that shows everyone thinks trump lost and somehow think you are proving he won. That is nuts.
You have any other logical conclusion for how his poll numbers went up?
you are linking one poll from one pollster. There are always outlier polls so taking one poll as the absolute truth (in this case just because you like the narrative you can use it for) is a very flawed way to look at things. You are picking and choosing data points to reinforce what you want the truth to be rather than looking at the data points to try to figure out what the truth is.
There have only been 3 polls done of national percentage since the end of the debate. One is by CNBC which shows no cross tabs. Others two (IBD and USC) are the ones I linked that both showed Trump gaining in percentages nationally.
of course they can. but you are only reinforcing my point. Twitter polls are not reliable. Anyone can skew them if they feel like it. So why would anyone take them seriously?
I’m saying it balances out in favor of Democrats because of them vastly outnumbering conservatives. Are you saying Democrats hit the Trump button?
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@Greyparrot
Hispanics are not trolls.
There’s a reason why Biden is doing worse with Hispanics in places like Florida compared to Hillary Clinton. His vote share in Miami Dade is going to be larger than 2016 and that should worry Democrats especially if the rural turnout cancels out any Biden suburb support
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@HistoryBuff
the narrative of right wing loons screaming DON'T TRUST ANYONE BUT INTERNET TROLLS!!! No, they seem to keeping up that narrative no matter what.You don't read the things you post do you? This is a quote from that article:
Logically speaking his support should’ve decreased then right? Just proves my point of the mental gymnastics pollsters go through to justify something.
The average of polls shows almost no change since the debate. There are always outlier polls one way or the other. The trend is the important part. And the trends still show trump losing.
Maybe you want to go look at that model again. It incorporates polls from dates prior to the debate. Nice try. The “trends” showed Hillary up by 6 in Wisconsin just like Joe is. We all know how that ended up.
twitter polls don't count because there sample population is so easily messed with. All it takes is for a few right wing loons to share it around their circles and suddenly you end up with sample size being 75% right wing troll. So no, twitter polls are never reliable.
Left wing radicals can do the same thing though. Their circles are much more larger than conservatives. If anything it favor liberals cause of their larger usage.
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@HistoryBuff
twitter polls don't count. it is super easy for trolls to break those.
Lol Twitter is dominated by liberals and Trump still won
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@HistoryBuff
two things. 1) if they are fake, why would you reference them?
Just shows it’s getting harder and harder to keep up the narrative.
2) what polls? the ones I saw in the aftermath of the debate showed people hated trump's performance. So what exactly are you referring to?
If people hated it how’s he doing better?
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@HistoryBuff
how? Trump made a complete ass of himself and somehow Biden alienated people?
Lmaooo that’s not what your fake news polls say. Btw I’m glad to see you back
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@Crocodile
Biden legit said he didn't support the GND and supported "the biden plan" or whatever he said.
He said the GND is not his plan and then he goes on a rant about how the GND is cost effective. If that’s not his plan why talk about it? His own website says he uses the GND as a framework
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@Vader
Seriously? She wanted to target us the minute after her return? Why did she randomly target us? You don't have any concern of that
She was targeting us long before she said that. RVS is most likely to blame
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@Vader
He isn't the level of Speed, Lunatic, Danielle, you. He isn't a master of the game. He's very limited of what he knows.
Sure but he isn’t a noob at this point. He’s just a bad player which in itself is negative utility if you want to go that route.
But at the risk of a mislynch of an active member who has bee contributing to town and having his behavior lining up with town. IDK, seems like a bad idea.
Fundamentals outweigh behavior imo. I’m the perfect example tbh in your game
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@Vader
#190"I'd be down to target Supa or Pie"
How does that imply she’s a power role? She was talking about votes
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@Vader
I'm taking the mindset of a noob tho who may not know all the roles and variations. I think this is a stupid lynch that is going to enforce the same narrative that fucks up the town.
How long are you gonna keep calling him a noob? Dudes probably played like 10 games by now. He’s not a noob, he’d just be a bad player.
"Skittlez early claimed a sketchy role, let's vote him"*skittlez flips town*It's the same story. Narratives don't die. You are a sports fan, so you should know. Falcons choking, Twins not winning a playoff game. The same thing happens. I think this is a mistake
Even if he flips town we gain more information. It’s literally an information game. We have nothing today and we won’t have anything tomorrow if we just rely on Night roles.
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@Vader
I think we should look at Danielle's soft claiming a tracker type role. Why did she randomly put pressure on the two of us? She's hiding something from us and that is weird.
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Pie is town. Active but not active enough. Fmpov, he is a vanilla town. He's an easy read
This is a role madness game. We all have roles whether they be passive or active
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